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zack240man
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hi guys i have been working turboing my ka24de. the engine has been rebuild, pretty much all the parts are sitting just waiting to boost. but im having problems finding something (i dont even know want its called). im try to find the adapter for your ecu to install a chip. u know that thing that does that thing that does stuff lol but really it the kind were u can remove the chip to reburn it i really need one.


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Um......what?!

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zack240man
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its an adapter that you solder into the ecu thats lets you change chip or take your chip out. instead of soldering the emprom chip into the ecu u solder this device in some removal and install of chip is easy

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There really is a lot you can do with the stock ecu..... you need to be a little more specific. There is also no such thing as one single 'chip' that is an overall performance enhancer. What purpose will you need it for? What are your power goals? You can adjust timing via the distributor for lower boost applications over 5 psi or so, or even invest in an MSD BTM. If you need to control feul, you can easily run an FMU or piggyback setup like an SAFC for lower boost applications......or are you talking about any standalone fuel systems that you might have in mind (ie megasquirt/ emanage)?

....are you curious abotu Enthralpy?!? Lol.

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i got this empron burnable chip it about a 42 prong chip that replaces the chip in your ecu that control your fuel maps and all your gov's. well what i am looking for is pretty much an adapter for the chip instead of soldering the chip to the board you solder the "adapter" into the board. the "adapter" allows you to swap chip or remove the chip to be reburned. it pretty much like what desk top and laptop computers have for there rams you can remove the ram to replace or repair with out having to vacuam remove and resolder the chip does it make better sense??

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A socket?... like these?

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Zippy69
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What you need is a daughter board. You will need to solder a 40 pin socket to your ecu and then make up a daughter board with your chips to plug into your ecu.If you don't know what you are doing, tuning wise and electronic wise, you can do some serious damage.Try e-mance tuning, enthalpy. or Jim Wolf. They are all good tuners that stand behind their products. They will set up your ecu to your specs, like injectors, mafs, turbo, and rpms.The hardest part of turboing a ka-t is the tuning.Tuning is the #1 criteria for having a fun car to drive or making a post that starts, " Well, today I blew my engine".Good luck.

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yeah, just send out your ecu to have it "tuned" by somebody else for some rediculous amount of money..

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You are talking about a ZiF socket my friend in other words a Zero insertion Force socket.

For the SOHC ECU that would work perfectly. For DE there is other tuning options.

Not to sound mean but I would just go and have your ECU tuned by someone else, if you didn't know the name of the socket hehe.

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S13FX wrote:You are talking about a ZiF socket my friend in other words a Zero insertion Force socket.

For the SOHC ECU that would work perfectly. For DE there is other tuning options.

Not to sound mean but I would just go and have your ECU tuned by someone else, if you didn't know the name of the socket hehe.
huge understatement /\

you need a d/b for a dohc unless you are me

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boerne_ka-t wrote:yeah, just send out your ecu to have it "tuned" by somebody else for some rediculous amount of money..


Vs trying to get hondata to work on a freaken nissan? Your crazy dude, 75 percent of the people who have successfully done a ka-t project use an ecu tune, im not sure why you are knocking it in favor of something thats so outlandishly..

Not to mention the Emance guy takes your stock ecu(0 dollars), you pay him 135 dollars and bam, your done. Tuned with just pluging in a harness. The cheapest your gona get a hondata for is about 300, and thats the bare bones one.

I mean in the time its going to take you to get that car running, IF you can do it, i could have made 500-1000 bucks without any problems. **** for the time your going to invest, PLUS the cost of hondata, you might as well buy a damned AEM EMS and call it a day.


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480sx wrote:

Vs trying to get hondata to work on a freaken nissan? Your crazy dude, 75 percent of the people who have successfully done a ka-t project use an ecu tune, im not sure why you are knocking it in favor of something thats so outlandishly..

I mean in the time its going to take you to get that car running, IF you can do it, i could have made 500-1000 bucks without any problems. **** for the time your going to invest, PLUS the cost of hondata, you might as well buy a damned AEM EMS and call it a day.
You know what.. your right, I shouldn't knock it. I know people who use ecu tunes too, and they work do work fine.. but this 240 i got was strictly for a project so I've got all the time in the world.. the thing is, my roomate and I make $200+ for each honda computer we sell too, (and I'm not sure what you mean by the "cost" of hondata.. uberdata and crome is a free download)

Just think though.. If we pull it off, how cool would that be, I could make a dozen changes to my motor over the course of a month and always have a perfect tune for each adjustment done by me in my garage..

We just picked up a turbo kit a while ago for my roomies civic and the guy threw in a non v-tech distributer too.. Score! So now I get to mess with that tonight, If I can morph the honda's end cap to the KA's shaft.. we're home free.. I'm a goal setter, and I usually achieve my goals so this "project" of mine has an end date of summer.. so we'll see!

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Hey. I have a V-afc for a honda, brand new. Toss me an email.

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Im taking all my knowledge of hondas from a friend i used to work with that had a pair of 500+ hondas, and ran hondata. It was a complete stand alone ECU that he had to buy that pluged directly into the honda harness. Im not talking about the tuning software or whatever.

Ill admit that would be cool, however im not sure it would be worth the hassle. There are so many good tuning options for the ka now i dont see the need to convert. I said earlier, to you actually, that if you know one tuning program you can learn another. Its all the same stuff, just in a different package.

Still good luck with your project its a pretty unique one.

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Zippy69 wrote:Hey. I have a V-afc for a honda, brand new. Toss me an email.
Oh thanks bro.. but I won't need it, I'll adjust maps in the tune for the computer..

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480sx wrote:Im taking all my knowledge of hondas from a friend i used to work with that had a pair of 500+ hondas, and ran hondata. It was a complete stand alone ECU that he had to buy that pluged directly into the honda harness. Im not talking about the tuning software or whatever.

Ill admit that would be cool, however im not sure it would be worth the hassle. There are so many good tuning options for the ka now i dont see the need to convert. I said earlier, to you actually, that if you know one tuning program you can learn another. Its all the same stuff, just in a different package.

Still good luck with your project its a pretty unique one.
OOOHHhhhhh.. I miss understood.. I'm not running hondata on top of it, I'm gonna run the whole car on a stock honda ecu..

And what is this software you speak of, we've been looking everywhere and can't find any. I heard bikirom took a dive for the worst.. I dunno, to me I don't think it will be a hassle, well, after we figure out the distributor issue <-- cause other than that it's just cut and splice, then bam! (hopefully)

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well if a KA can run on a DSM ecu, it'll run on a honda ecu.............just get the values squared and do whatever customizations u need to do. kudos to you if you can do it cuz i'm not that tech savy..........

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Jookmasta wrote:kudos to you if you can do it cuz i'm not that tech savy..........
Me either man. He's got a pair bigger than the both of us combined..

Good luck man. And keep us updated. If I didn't have so much work, money, etc into my car, I would attempt it. But would still probably go for Mega Squirt.

....honestly..


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