Whats it like to drive 2 speed automatic 50's era cars?

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So, most of the cars I have driven have been newer & manual with a sprinkling of 4-6 gear automatics. I've never driven a power glide, or a column shifted car or anything older than 1966.

I've been looking into old 50's iron lately and found a '52 Chevy Deluxe that I'm interested in.
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The car is very original, isn't rusty, has a 235 inline 6, and the uncommon 2 speed automatic transmission, with a 3.55 rear end at the back- pretty stock. I have no disillusions about it being slow as s*** and being unable to handle even close to a 1996 Caviler, but it could make for a fun cruising car in the summer.

For those of you who have experience with this type of car, what can I expect in regards to driving dynamics? Its an early Powerglide, but without an 8 cylinder behind it, can I expect to go 60-70mph on the high way for 20-60 miles? I realize its no sports car, but is it a comfortable cruiser? Will the drum brakes on all 4 corners scare the bejesus out of me? Keep in mind, I drive pretty conservatively most of the time.

I guess I'm really looking for what is some down to earth expectations. What've you got?!


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I might have some insight for you.

If you're considering that vintage a car, my brother owned a '49 Olds sedan for several years, 6 cyl, 3 on the tree. He even used it as a DD. A nostalgia fueled purchase. (he was born in '49) Yes, it's a highway cruiser, but don't expect to break the land speed record in a 6 cyl. American car of that era. I drove his Olds occasionally, and I enjoyed it for short rides. It'll cruise fine at highway speeds, just be patient getting up those speeds. A camry will dust you. It was insanely roomy, and easy to work on, and even got decent gas mileage, but the specialness wore off quickly and it became a somewhat tedious car to drive, with minimal creature comforts plus it did nothing particularly well by modern standards. The combination of non power steering, (ie. heavy and numb with play ), drum brakes, bias ply tires (you think your t/a understeers?), balky column mounted shifter, unsupportive bench seats (though fun on dates :naughty: ), heavy weight and docile 6 cyl motor was not a recipe for excitement by any stretch of the imagination. If the 4 door chevy car pictured with the side pipes is a 6 banger, a baby boomer car guy might see that as an oxymoron. It was seen more as a "mom-mobile". Now a V8 in a 2 door? different story. They had a bit more pep, sounded better, making it a bit more interesting in a straight line and thus more appropriate for leg pipes. But they all were what they were: not very good. That's why you can still buy them so reasonably, especially the much less desireable 4 door models. If you wanted something sporty that handled better, you looked at European cars back then. IMHO, Unless you have an emotional attachment to early 50's sedans, or love going to cruise nights, I'm not sure I'd recommend buying one.

As far as drum brakes, Yep, drum brakes are not as good as disc, especially in the rain. But you should not be fearful. the stopping distances are longer (and no ABS) but they still stop fine in normal driving if you don't drive like an aggressive fool. Heck, My first 4 cars had drum brakes. It's no big deal, especially if you drive patiently and look farther ahead. You'll probably find yourself coasting a lot more in those old powerglide Chevies so you don't have to pound on the brakes so hard, but if you need them in a pinch, trust me, they work. I'd advise against long track sessions w/drum brakes, But keep in mind old racecars used them.

regarding the 2 speed powerglide, they were great. very durable. I had a '65 corvair with it (knucklebuster dash shifter), and my aunt had an early 60's impala with it for many years. Very much for highway cruising. Since there's no overdrive, the engines rev higher than you're used to, but not as much as you think. They were not high revving engines back then. The only downside to the powerglide in my corvair was the lack of "park". you had to use neutral and the parking brake. And common sense dictated when parking on a hill, you turn the wheel enough that the tire hits the curb if the parking brake failed. You might see your parents do that instinctively if they still parallel park. That's simply what you did.

As far as summer cruising? Uh, no. Evening perhaps, but not summer days . You'll quickly learn there's no a/c, not even dash mounted vents. The only vents it does have cools only your ankles, and you'll desperately try open those little triangular vent windows as much as you can in the summer to get more fresh air. That's also why I'd only take one to a cruise NIGHT, not a cruise day.

Fwiw, my dad bought a then new '51 Chevy fastback 6 cyl, 3 on the tree. (similar front end to your picture) I was too young to drive that car. He always said he liked it for it was (reliable family hauler of it's day), but he did not consider it a fun car. (His Jag filled that role). Hope that helps.

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Growing up, that's what was around. My parents had several Dynaflow Buicks, I had a '56 Chevy three on the tree, my friends all had '50s Fords and Dodges and Chevrolets and they all had a 2-speed ( or three-speed) slushboxes. The slow revving V8s and sixes of the day were perfectly mated to their trannys--there was a shot of torque in first, then it would abruptly slam ( or slip, depending on adjustment) into second, then find the right range for highway driving and move on to third if you had it.
They would whine, like aircraft. If you paid attention, you could tell the make of the car from its transmission whine.

Pushing down on the right pedal dropped you back into torque territory for passing or just going fast or using up the cheap gas. Sometimes when climbing a steep hill or in heavy traffic, the transmission would automatically downshift and find a lower gear for more power. It would shift back and forth, searching for the optimum gear. That could get annoying as hell.
Driving in snow was a hoot. You could spin a car at a stoplight.

Some had overdrive, where you pushed a button and you had a lower range gear, almost a 3rd gear.

My friend Tom had a "52 Plymouth convertible with a 3-speed "HI-Drive" where you would pre-select a gear, then use the clutch to activate the gear, like a Cord or a Model T.

Any car of the '50s era will have crummy brakes. That was a given, along with heavy steering, sloppy handling, an alignment that went to hell everytime you'd cross railroad tracks--and a huge turning radius.
--And a flexible chassis and a wobbly suspension, and a generator and maybe vacuum wipers that only went fast when you did-- and NO seat belts. They weren't even thought of in the early '50s. Ford offered them in 1956, but no one wanted them, so they dropped them off the option list.

Old cars were a real pain in the azz.
I can't imagine what it must be like for a youngster to get into a vintage car for the first time and try to drive it in real world conditions. They must think that it's a real deathtrap, something they'd have to develop entirely new skill sets to master.
But, in the olden days, that's what was around.

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JerryHofschneider wrote: Old cars were a real pain in the azz.
I can't imagine what it must be like for a youngster to get into a vintage car for the first time and try to drive it in real world conditions. They must think that it's a real deathtrap, something they'd have to develop entirely new skill sets to master.
But, in the olden days, that's what was around.
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Thank you for the feedback and first hand experiences guys. Hearing the stories is really cool. Being that I'm way to far removed from their original purposes (like Hoff said, family hauler), I just see them as the cool mobster style cars. I don't have any emotional attachment to the cars of the era, but I do like them.
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Granted, that one is a bit older and I haven't found something like that for under $8,000 yet.

But, part of me feels that it might be a cool thing to cruise in even as it is, despite no a/c. Thankfully in the summer its not as needed in NH as it would be in MA, or CT. That part doesn't bug me too much. Seatbelts are a concern for sure- somewhere along the line, mortality has caught up with me.

Another part of me sees a pretty cool and relatively easy project. Adding a 4 link, converting to 12v charging system, and a decent fuel injected engine like the truck based LSx could make it more drivable and enjoyable. Something like this guy did: http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-h ... -ls-2.html

But- as with any modded vehicle- you'll never get back what you put into it once you've changed its originality. It has to be regarded as a labor of love. The resto mod idea seems cool, especially since its something unique and sweet looking, but the reality is that it'll cost a good bit of additional money to get it going. Money that could be spent on a more reliable, newer car, or a faster/better handling car. Maybe the one pictured (which is the one for sale) has some of that done already, considering the side pipes are there and the wheels are modern. I wouldn't feel too bad changing its originality since they're not as sought after as the Bel Air.

I'd honestly like to go older, but can't find something in decent enough shape for ~8k.

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As a teenager, the first car I bought with my own money was a 1965 Chevy four door Biscayne.
Bare bones transportation, with the same 235 C.I. engine and 2 speed powerglide transmission as your 50's Chevy.
It had drum brakes all around, bench seats and an AM radio with one speaker in the front dash.
It drove like a couch, and stopped like one.
The drum brakes were OK, until you did a few panic stops in a row, then....nothing. Worst brake fade ever.
Steering was vague, and the suspension was beyond soft.
Of all the cars I ever had, I probably had the most fun in that thing, with all my friends, and then girlfriend. Huge back seat.
Despite the unsophisticated and archaic nature of the beast, it never let me down.
It was also a delight to work on. I learned a lot about basic auto-mechanics working on that car.
I got T-boned by a guy running a red light, and that was the end of it. I was slightly hurt, but all that iron probably saved my life.
Just a note on drum brakes: There are brake shoes available today that were not around in the 50's and 60's.
The materials in the modern shoes are far superior to what they had back then.
If you use a good brake shoe in your car, you won't get the fade like from days gone by.
They will also have much better stopping power than 50 years ago.


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