Whats a "POP" Intake

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gsrteg
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i currently have a Stillen High Flow Intake on my car.. but i have no clue what a dual and single pop intake are and what the difference is.. and do i need one when i go to increasse my boost or is the stillen high flow good enough?

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Technically you have a POP charger on it, single. The POP refers to the air filter, open element, no air box. For dual setup, you need a second MAF, filter, and all the piping so you have one filter feeding its own throttle body. It also takes a selin transmitter or a ecu upgrade/program to tell the computer that you have two filters. I know there is more to it, but this is just a quick version.

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"POP" or POP charger as you might have heard it called just means Performance optimized part or package. I think JWT was the first to kind of coin the phrase, but that's just a guess. I've also never heard the term "POP" outside of z32 circles personally.

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in order for me to run hiber boost and to support increased air flow i need to upgrade to dual "pop"?

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How much boost are you wanting to run, first off?

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What mods have you done? Turbos? ECU upgrade or tuning? Fuel injectors? Clutch? Intercoolers?

But mainly what Ace said.

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haha okay. I have 740cc injectors with a SZ Ecu/chip. 2.5'' stillen catback exhaust with a stillen high flow intake. im currently saving for the SZ strret clutch and RPS Flywheel along with the transmission pull im doing 3" SZ downpipes with full 3' Exhaust. after that point i was thinking godspeed of ashspec SMIC's and thats when im going to buy a boost controller and turn it higher to maybe like ehh.. 12-13 psi maybe 11 idk yet. so thats why i was wondering if i needed a dual pop intake.. 60k flat on my car.. upgrading to sport 500's prolly when my die out.

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With all these bolt on mods, you're going to have a TON of underutilized power without a full engine build. You can run 12.5 psi on stock turbos, much less sport 500's. And with 740cc injectors, you're gonna be sorely underutilizing those as well. If you're not going past that, no need for any more than single pop.

When you finally build the engine and use the mods you have, then you can upgrade to a selin kit, but no need until then.

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i thought the internals are good for around 600hp, i know the rods are good for 700 i heard.. and what do you mean by underutilzed power. i know you mean power that i cant use but can you explain a little more for me?

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i wanted the 3'" exhaust and dp's to 1- increase power but 2- to just free up some restrictions and 3- to sound mean :) and the rps fly wheel i was gettingso i could rebuild it in the future if needed, plus instead of sending mine out to get rotated and what not mise well upgrade and i want less strain on my transmission to have to spin a heavy flywheel.. and i only said to get SMIC's because assuming with all those mods i need more and cooler airflow. kill 2 birds with one stone; i dont want my transmission to slip on me now or when my turbos go in like 40k or whenever they do, i want the transmission to be able to hold more power as in maybe 500ish but as zowned said before a little more strength for the clutch is good. (not quoted kinda summed up what he said on my clutch flywheel thread)

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No NEED for a dual POP, but 2 intakes are always better than one.

I wouldn't go much higher than 14PSI without a real tune on pump gas. Be sure everything else is in check before turning up the boost (Base timing, fuel pressure, spark plugs, compression etc etc.)

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gsrteg wrote:i thought the internals are good for around 600hp, i know the rods are good for 700 i heard.. and what do you mean by underutilzed power. i know you mean power that i cant use but can you explain a little more for me?
For what you are looking for, 740 is overkill, they are meant to run higher boost/more power. Nothing wrong having them, it just means when you decide to get bigger snails, injectors are not an upgrade you will have to do.

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740s are also easier to tune than 615s, and idle just as well.

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I was told to get 740cc by everyone and they best deal.. And like said before easier to tune. just because i have bigger injectors and not running huge turboes and cranked up boost doesnt mean i shouldnt have them

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gsrteg wrote:I was told to get 740cc by everyone and they best deal.. And like said before easier to tune. just because i have bigger injectors and not running huge turboes and cranked up boost doesnt mean i shouldnt have them
You did good with the 740's :dblthumb: I would consider rather than spending the money on the godspeed ic's springing if the funds allow for the Z1 2.5" kit with the ic's and piping (i only suggest it over ash massives and piping due to price). That with the 3" exhaust with 14lbs of boost via the ebc and some upgraded tb's would make for a fun car on stock turbo's.

Some reading for you.
http://twinturbo.net/nissan/300zx/forum ... HARTS.html

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Yeah thats what i see zowned haha. should be pretty fast with all those bolt on even with stock turbos :) and i wasnt set on godspeed i just named a few SMIC that arent like 900$, when the time comes for those il be sure to do more research and you'll prolly see another noob post from me on it :D ha ha

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And yeah TDogs everything is running swell. ( knock on wood..) so i can safely turn up my boost im hust waiting for a few other mods before i do, plus i dont want my clutch to slip on me.. I heard it can only hold 350 so im not saying id put down that much torque but better to be safe then Sorry, thanks everyone for chipping in! So if im good with a the intake i have no with all the future mods il be happy. Wventually i upgrade those to dual


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