Whats a cheap turbo for 300-325whp goal? ebay any good?

[5.zt]

ok before you guys flame and so on.

I have done research on this and yes I found the link above with all ebay product review.

The reason I ask is maybe perhaps someones have some success with a particular product.

and to say they are all(turbo) crap is well
there are a few.
and as always if YOU have personal experience with china product and it blew DID you opened up the turbo and cleaned it? its a common issues with china stuff to have metal shavings inside.
I for one use a gt45 and x02 60mm wg and no problem on my v8.
Heres a link to the success story of this gt45.
http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/diy-a ... ?topicseen

500whp+ not bad for a $300 turbo

anyways back to topic what are the other options.
from what ive found
gt2871r
gt28rs
gt3071r
gt2860rs
ive seen one 16g

all of which are over 1k. for a mere 300 I dont really feel like spending that much on a turbo. there has to be a cheaper option.

anyone tried ct26 upgraded from a supra? ive had 57 trim before and made good power(on a 7m though)

my goals are simple:
300-325whp no more no less.

application:
street driven with some 1/4 and highway runs. a little laggy turbo isnt a problem. nothing a launch control/preload cant fix.

NO more than 19psi and PUMP gas
but around 15psi prefered

and lastly would like it to be around $500 give or take.

the thing im considering are masterpower turbo. based on my background t70 has proven success but it might just be way to big on a ca.



any one has a suggestion?

btw how well does stock hg hold 19psi? people say its the best way to go. but i will be doing the hg so i can go metal if needed.



and if it matters these will accompany it:
z32 maf
460cc injectors (rx7) but may decide 550 or 720
walbro pump
arp stud
KA24 Throttle body
ebay exhaust manifold
3" exhaust
fmic
aeromotive fpr
chipped ecu then fine tuned with safc
wideband
I also have methanol injection from my last build that ill be adding for more "safeguard" and cooling.

did i forget anything?

thanks

[AZhitman]

I built a $8000 KA-T. The LAST thing I'd do after building such a sweet engine is slap a cheaply-built turbo on it.

My first turbo came from what I THOUGHT was a reputable company (Garrett T3/T4). Less than 1K miles into it, the turbo began coming apart internally. Research revealed it was a Garrett housing that had been rebuilt in China and sold as new (to this unscrupulous company).

Look for a good used turbo from a reputable source, inspect it thoroughly, and stick with a big brand.

BTW, you may want to go bigger on injectors - I ran 75-lb RC injectors from AMS on my KA. 460's at 19psi won't cut it.

I also wouldn't trust an SAFC (they're crap IMO) but somehow, people keep buying them....

Welcome aboard!

[sjbsuperman1425]

i bought my s14 sr20 turbo for $300 used. its held up great so far and I love it. eBay is definitely not the way to go for a critical engine part in my opinion.

[5.zt]

I hope youre making more than 300whp if you've spend that much.
I understand that point. But for a complete stock engine with only hg and arp stud(if that's even considered an upgraded) it's a differed story.

And yea that's odd for them to sell remanufactured as new. That there is a root of the problem.

As far as used turbo it's a hit and miss I think. It's hard to find a reputable source-even reliable one may be selling one that's about to take a dump and not know it. But I have bought a few used before and I'd say it's 50/50. It's may not be doa but it might as well be even with little haft play.

As far as safc goes it's easy to tune and cheap so it's popular. I was able to get a little over 460whp with it on my mk3 supra so I'm very fond of it on a budget build. Product success on personal experience beats logic at times lol plus being a lot cheaper than any stand alone by a few hundred iF not thousand helps a lot.

I built a $8000 KA-T. The LAST thing I'd do after building such a sweet engine is slap a cheaply-built turbo on it.

My first turbo came from what I THOUGHT was a reputable company (Garrett T3/T4). Less than 1K miles into it, the turbo began coming apart internally. Research revealed it was a Garrett housing that had been rebuilt in China and sold as new (to this unscrupulous company).

Look for a good used turbo from a reputable source, inspect it thoroughly, and stick with a big brand.

BTW, you may want to go bigger on injectors - I ran 75-lb RC injectors from AMS on my KA. 460's at 19psi won't cut it.

I also wouldn't trust an SAFC (they're crap IMO) but somehow, people keep buying them....

Welcome aboard!

[5.zt]

And I forgot to add ya that's why I was considering bigger injectors but I haven't read up on it as much so it's still up in the air

i bought my s14 sr20 turbo for $300 used. its held up great so far and I love it. eBay is definitely not the way to go for a critical engine part in my opinion.

What's your hp? And at what pressure?

[srt4monster]

i can get you some borg warner out of the box turbos from 400-600 dollars from the shop i work at.

[5.zt]

i can get you some borg warner out of the box turbos from 400-600 dollars from the shop i work at.

Can you give me some specs on the turbo? Thanks

[srt4monster]

yeah i can find out the prices of them, there are a lot of options too.

[5.zt]

I was thinking of a twin turbo ca18det just for laugh and decided to look it up. well I didnt find one for the obvious reason but did find out that bmw has a 2.0l twin charge one. pretty cool.

anyways now im wondering how a twin 14b td05 would perform on a ca18det
of course the headers will be setup so each turbo would receive alternating pulse.

They are cheap enough turbo a piece and easy to replace. plus i have the fabrication skills more the custom work lol. i wonder how the lag is though with only 2 cyl feeding each.

maybe a t25 from a second gen would be better.

but then again I dont think it will produce 300whp.

/rant lol


anyways lmk about which borg warner is available.
thanks

[float_6969]

You'll need 550's for that setup, one step bigger won't hurt.

As for ebay turbo's, it's hit or miss. My friend has a performance shop and had an ebay company contact him, wanting him to be a dealer for their turbo's. They sold him one for STUPID cheap. (IDK how much exactly as it was dealer pricing) It went on his S15 SR, stock manifold, T2 flange, and he made almost 400whp with it before his injectors maxed out. The turbo still has more room. That was 2 years ago and it's still running strong.

If you're interested, I can find out the name of the company.

[5.zt]

You'll need 550's for that setup, one step bigger won't hurt.

As for ebay turbo's, it's hit or miss. My friend has a performance shop and had an ebay company contact him, wanting him to be a dealer for their turbo's. They sold him one for STUPID cheap. (IDK how much exactly as it was dealer pricing) It went on his S15 SR, stock manifold, T2 flange, and he made almost 400whp with it before his injectors maxed out. The turbo still has more room. That was 2 years ago and it's still running strong.

If you're interested, I can find out the name of the company.

Sounds good. Please let me know. It's easier to look up specific part brand succes than a general search. Thanks

[float_6969]

The brand name is Godspeed. I AM IN NO WAY ENDORSING THIS COMPANY!!! I have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with them. My good friend has had a good experience with them. That's all I can say about them.

[5.zt]

The brand name is Godspeed. I AM IN NO WAY ENDORSING THIS COMPANY!!! I have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with them. My good friend has had a good experience with them. That's all I can say about them.

I was hoping you wouldnt say that. that company seems to hold an automatic negative feedback that people knock them down before anything. So im dont even want to try them.

anyways found pte sc50 around 800 new.
I may consider a used turbo but i really dont want to buy one used simple because the project could take months and if by then I find out its crap then im out of luck.
still looking though. maybe ill find a new gt3071r or gt2871r thats discounted lol

[AZhitman]

The brand name is Godspeed. I AM IN NO WAY ENDORSING THIS COMPANY!!! I have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with them. My good friend has had a good experience with them. That's all I can say about them.

I was hoping you wouldnt say that. that company seems to hold an automatic negative feedback that people knock them down before anything. So im dont even want to try them.

I'm confused - You wanted advice, but it sounds like you've already kinda made up your mind.

Again, I'd go cheap elsewhere before I'd cut corners on the turbo.

BTW, hit up Deatschwerks.com for your injectors - They've been good to us through the years.

[5.zt]

I'm confused - You wanted advice, but it sounds like you've already kinda made up your mind.

Again, I'd go cheap elsewhere before I'd cut corners on the turbo.

BTW, hit up Deatschwerks.com for your injectors - They've been good to us through the years.

I haven't I just found out about the sc50.

And it's not that I'm automatically knock the suggestion down, but I have done my research on Godspeed right before I found about abou the gt45.

I was just wondering if there's like a "magic" turbo lol

I know supra mk3 when I had one they have cheap upgraded ct26 then gt45 for v8 or the master power I figure ca crowed might hav one too.


Thanks for the heads up on the injectors, I'm currently looking for different name band.

[AZhitman]

ALL turbos are "magic".

Just ask Jeremy Clarkson.

[boost_boy]

Magic turbo, huh Can I get the cheap one with the rainbow-colored pixie dust and cute little sound effects?

[5.zt]

Magic turbo, huh Can I get the cheap one with the rainbow-colored pixie dust and cute little sound effects?

No pixie dust but if you got something that can spool a $300 gt45 then you can get 500hp with that magic turbo lol

Perhaps a t04e /t3 set up but even Those Garret 50/57 trim are 700+ a piece. But I guess cheaper than over 1k lol

[boost_boy]

I guess the ebay stuff is a hit or miss because I tried an ADM (Asian Domestic Market) GT35R and that thing lasted about 6000 miles and 2 dyno pulls of 500whp @ over 20psi and as much as 33psi and that was it. Thrust washer was non-existent after that and it didn't seem to want to boost anymore, but at least it didn't smoke. I used it to break-in the engine I had rebuilt for my S13 coupe and then it was replaced with a real Garrett GT3082 or GT35R, so that's $340 for the knock-off and $1375 for the real deal, hmmmm I'm pretty sure you see my point. But in the interim, it's good to hear that your cheapo GT45 is still holding-up. When and if it goes, money will spent.

[5.zt]

I guess the ebay stuff is a hit or miss because I tried an ADM (Asian Domestic Market) GT35R and that thing lasted about 6000 miles and 2 dyno pulls of 500whp @ over 20psi and as much as 33psi and that was it. Thrust washer was non-existent after that and it didn't seem to want to boost anymore, but at least it didn't smoke. I used it to break-in the engine I had rebuilt for my S13 coupe and then it was replaced with a real Garrett GT3082 or GT35R, so that's $340 for the knock-off and $1375 for the real deal, hmmmm I'm pretty sure you see my point. But in the interim, it's good to hear that your cheapo GT45 is still holding-up. When and if it goes, money will spent.

Ya if you running that much I don't think eBay will cut it lol

And ya the gt45 was my number one pick simple because I know I would no boost past 20(18psi max is the plan). On the side note seeing the success rate on those I think it may last as long as the real deal if not I'm sure 3 gt45 is still cheaper lol. But I LIKE working on cars more than driving them so replacing turbo is no biggie.

I can see that no eBay brand is going to help me this time. So I guess I'll look more into cheaper option like the to4e

[zenyo]

Im currently building a stock ca18det with a td05hra 16g 10.5t turbo off a TME evo 6 iv also got an custom adapter place so I can run the evo manifold on my ca18det, this way I keep the genuine twin scroll design which pulsates the turbo so it spools faster, plus being an rs turbo and not gsr its got titanium internals to aid faster spooling characteristics. The engine will be fully stock, fully balanced bottom end, knife edged crank, metal head gasket and arp head bolt kit, should achieve 330/350bhp at the fly. Iv got a cpc inlet manifold, 70mm Ford throttle body, nismo 555cc injectors and a r33 skyline gtst green label maf, with a nistune ecu board I'm hoping to get as close to 300whp with minimal lag. My turbo was 2nd hand with a genuine 21k miles next to none shaft play, and for the whole kit, turbo, manifold, down pipe, adapter plate and oil lines I paid £470 delivered from Ireland to UK. It's a great cheap turbo that provides some serious power, though I did get a bargain as these td05hra turbos usually go for £500 alone in the UK. Iv heard people had decent numbers and reliability with godspeed turbos despite there reputation, though personally I'd stick to oem turbos or well known brands such as garret, Borg warner, precision etc.