what will it take to beat my camaro??

[inhoc_z28]

So, I have a 97' z-28 right now, but I'm thinking of selling it and buying a 240sx. How hard is it to make these little 4 bangers as fast as my camaro?? Im running a 13.9 1/4 at 5,500 ft of elevation! 13.2 at sea level! (san diego) Im planning on buying a 96' model or newer! (obdII FTW) Will a turbo on stock internals do the job. and boltons of course. Or should i plan on a rebuild and lots of boost? And sure i have plenty of friends i could have asked this question to, but im kinda embarassed! lol Im the guy always making fun of friends for their BOV and their single exhaust!!

[cattrikk]

a 240 with a SR swap and bolt ons should do it. I've raced 3 camaros, and won all three times. Two of them where LT1 cars and that was no problem. The one with the LS1 was a little harder, but i got him.

[adrianfromthecastle]

imo high 13's are attainable with a stock sr w/ 3" exhausting and lsd.

[sr20powerd]

imo high 13's are attainable with a stock sr w/ 3" exhausting and lsd.

I was always under the assumption that they weren't that quick

[DriftReadyS13]

my friend has a s13 with a notch top s14 sr20 with down pipe exhaust and intake runnin constant 13.5's

[AZhitman]

Got a Q45 that'll come close to taking that....

You can do that with "stock" boost levels, a good-running SR-swapped 240 will run 13's all day long (and handle a lot better than you're used to).

Welcome aboard, there's a lot here to read and learn! Let us know if we can be of any help.

[DriftReadyS13]

not to jack thethread but what will it take to get a s13 with a s14 notchtop to get into the 11's ?

[adrianfromthecastle]

not to jack thethread but what will it take to get a s13 with a s14 notchtop to get into the 11's ?

[ddgsxr504]

[inhoc_z28]

cool... alright guys. thanx. Ive been doing research none stop the past two days. haha... I still dont know for sure what ill be doing but im thinking an engine swap will be a must. Which is fine. I was counting on that. Ok, back to the searching. got a lot more information i need to learn before i sell my camaro!

[180fan]

Very well said.

[DriftReadyS13]

money isnt an issue. im gettin 16 grand from a settlemet. i just want to know the best route to take

[Felipe]

if your that in to the Z28 just drop in the LS1 in the S13...

[Chaotic_Warlord]

The S chassis is a very adaptable machine, there are more than a few options to get an S14 into the camaro killing level. Depending on what you have in your bank account you can do just about anything. While SR's are going to be the number one answer I'll be the first to tell you that for the same money you'd spend getting that swap done (unless you do it yourself) you could easily turbo that stock KA and make the same power as you would have with a red top. Warranting you stay reserved on the boost the engine should hold up. For the price of an RB swap you could have a fully built KA-T that will be a vette killer.

There a couple questions you should ask:

What is HP and TQ goal?

What do you plan to use this new found power for? Drift, Drag, auto x

What is your budget?

I would also like to note that no matter what motor set you decide on, do not neglect to upgrade the suspension, brakes and wheels of your car, you could have a 600HP car but without the proper handling that 600hp won't be anywhere near as fun as it would be with a set of coil overs, Z rubber, and brakes to make it all stop.

KA-T FTW, RB for the Pwnage

[kamikazestorm420]

money isnt an issue. im gettin 16 grand from a settlemet. i just want to know the best route to take

take that 16 grand and put it in your savings. you will thank me 10 years from now.

and adrian

how the **** do you come up with so many dam pictures to post at the right time lol.

[ddgsxr504]

and adrian, how the **** do you come up with so many dam pictures to post at the right time lol.

Google!!

[ZiG]

if your that in to the Z28 just drop in the LS1 in the S13...

Kids these days. The 97 Camaro had an LT1 not an LS1. :P

just throw that old lt1 into the 240 and you'll run 13s even.

Actually that might in fact be your best bet. Why do you want a 240 though? Because it goes around corners and weighs 900 pounds less? (I should know. I have a trans am)

Seriously though, you don't buy a 240 because it's fast.

[inhoc_z28]

answers to above questions:

I dont really know for sure why i want a 240! Mainly just because i think it will be a fun project. I cant drop the lt1 in because i need the money from the camaro sell to fund my 240 project. If i were gonna do a v-8 swap i would do an ls1, because of the aluminum block!!! Also if i wanted to have a v8 under the hood i would keep my camaro! There are only 2 240's in my town. And both are 100% stock. I will be doing all the work on the car myself. I like the idea of being able to take corners fast!!

What is HP and TQ goal?

I dont know for sure because i dont know a lot about these cars! I would like to have over 280RWHP. But i also want to be able to push more power as i become more comfortable driving the car! Its taken me a lot of practice and tires to drive my Z-28 like i do. haha, now im gonna be starting all over again!

What do you plan to use this new found power for? Drift, Drag, auto x

I dont really want to focus on one main thing. I live in wyoming so the chances of me doing any drifting events are small! I will be taking it to the drag strip every once in a while, but not for points! I want a manual, but ive drag raced enough to realize how much better auto's are for bracket racing! BUT, I want to be able to drive up the mountain curves fast and safe.

What is your budget?

It will be around $9k! My camaro will be funding 90% of this project!

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Being that your budget is 9K lets figure that an S14 will run you around $4000 on the high side, (I picked up mine for $1400 but it has 250K on the chassis and was an automatic), For the other 5K you could easily do a conservative KA-T build, get a home brew turbo kit together and upgrade to better brakes and even have enough left for a shock/strut upgrade.

Being that you live in Wyoming, I have a couple more questions for ya, Why would you want to have a RWD setup. Yeah you had a Camaro but those are lead sleds compared to the S14. Doesn't it snow alot up there? Just curious, I would thank an AWD setup would be way more fun. I'm not trying to convince you out of a S chassis, but we tend to mourn the loss of these cars pretty seriously here. I'd say take your camaro to your local used car dealer and pick up an 03 or 04 WRX, trust me you'll appreciate the AWD setup much better where you live and you'll love going off road, plus it already under boost and with some minor tweaks will eat camaro's for breakfast.

But if you are in fact hard up for an S14, go for it, once you get one you'll wonder why you didn't have one sooner. The turn radius is tight and quick, the torque is there in gobs, the KA is an iron block and begs to be under boost. the number mods and directions you can go with it are about 5x's more than you'd ever think. Just read around, if you want to see what a KA-T is capable of being just check out Ivan's S14 from AMS/Turbo240. I believe last dyno he ran he was making 750RWHP and was doing low 10's in the 1/4.

[inhoc_z28]

ya it snows a lot up here. My camaro has never touched the snow. I also have a truck that i drive during the winter. My camaro is in my garage all winter. When i get a 240sx it will also be kept in my garage during the winter. I dont want to take any short cuts so the first thing i am going to do will be a motor swap. After i buy the car i will be spending around $6k on parts within the week! Im so excited. lol, then i will continue to build it as my funds will let me!

[AZhitman]

300rwhp in an S-chassis will spank damn near any F-body on the road, so the good news is, you're gonna have a FUN car!

[datsun2401972]

There are plenty of 9 sec street legal F bodies that would put a 300whp 240 in it's place. But 9 seconds straight gets old faster than getting sideways does