What type of gas should I put in my Rogue?

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What gas grade do you put on your nissan rogue? I have the sl awd... read that 87 grade (the cheapest) would be enough, but the people at nissan said it should have the most expensive to the mid-grade gas....
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The people at Nissan dealership you talked to (I'm assuming it's a dealership) need to read the owners manual because Nissan recommends 87. It's what the car is designed for.

The octane number has nothing to do with the quality of the gas despite what the oil company marketing scheme (calling it "premium" for example) would have you guess.

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What kind of gas should I put in my beloved Rogue?

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The owners manual and the dealer both say Regular. That was one reason I purchased the Rogue.

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I'm quite sure it wont matter what grade you use. The Rogue should adjust for just about any grade, even a mixed tank of premium/regular.

You probably would get a slight increase in HP (upto 5%) with premium, and possibly better gas mileage (not more than .5mpg), but nothing that you would be able to feel from driving the vehicle. Premium is slightly denser, thus harder for an engine to burn.

HP increase might be measureable on a DYNO?

I'd say go with regular, it's cheaper.

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It's designed for regular. Premium won't give you any additional benefits at all and may even harm your gas mileage.

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crypto1300 wrote:You probably would get a slight increase in HP (upto 5%) with premium, and possibly better gas mileage (not more than .5mpg),

HP increase might be measureable on a DYNO?

I'd say go with regular, it's cheaper.
99% of all statistics are made up on the spot. The above poster is dead wrong, the 4banger will get no improvement from using Premium. Use regular.

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Sorry you think I made up my statistics. But, I didn't, there are many websites that offer up similar stats.

For instance, this website has a quote from Petroleum Canada about fuel economy gain of 2%, which, with my current 23mpg average would be about the .5mpg stat I talked about in my post.

http://www.carpages.ca/go/tips....aspx

This website did experience a 2HP gain in their testing, which is in my statistical range as well.

http://www.caranddriver.com/fe....html

Anyway, enough about stats. I still stand by my original recommendation of sticking with regular.

MAHALO

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YAWN, disregard Canadian stats, they don't even make cars; just kidding...

Anyways, premium gas isn't any different than regular gas except how much heat it can tolerate before combustion. If a car needs premium, it's because the mixture compresses too much and causes pre-detonation.

If a car does not require premium, then it means at normal operation and timing, the car will not compress nor heat up the mixture enough to cause detonation before the spark plug goes off.

Unless Nissan tweaked this engine, there should be NO reason to run premium. Any perceived gain would be placebo effect. If Nissan says regular is required, then regular is required. In this car they don't even say recommended premium for max performance or whatever they say in the V6 Altima and Maxima. In those cases they're saying it'll run fine on regular but it'll run with advanced timing if premium is run which will yield better performance and maybe better mpg.

I just don't see it on this engine. This engine was designed for the Sentra and base Altima, not for a high performance application. If it does prove that 87octane isn't enough for "optimal performance", then I'm sure 89 would be more than enough.

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go with premium,,,we did last nite and the car ZOOOOOMED off the exxon parking lot after a few minutes.....you will notice a substantial difference from 89 octane to 93,,,,WE PROMISE...this is coming from running all the 89 out and refueling with 93,,,and it works

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Premium gas MIGHT BE better in performance which I don't feel the difference while driving at all. You won't to increase some perfomance? Start with new exhaust and air intake. In my opinion Premium will give you more heat which will effect one day on your car if the car is not designed for premium. You will have to replace gaskets or something else when the car didn't even pass 100,000 miles.

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LOL, Placebo Effect is in mad effect here.

If there was any difference between 87 and 91/93 on this car, then any of that difference would be felt with 89. The car was DESIGNED for 87, they don't even recommend 89 or 91+; there's no way the car operates any differently on 87 vs 93.

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OrangeRogue wrote:What kind of gas should I put in my beloved Rogue?
Regular.. I just did my own experiment and tried Premium for 2 tank fulls. I lost MPG on it. At least 1 MPG. Now down to 21MPG. Before 22 to 22.5 on Reg. fuel. No kidding about this!! I am going to run this tank full down to the bottom and then fill back up with Reg. I assuming that I will be back to normal.


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Chalk 1mpg up to coincidence. You should not see reduced MPG from going up in octane.

I REPEAT, the ONLY difference between regular and premium is the octane (Shell's VPOWER also includes added detergents, but Chevron, Texaco, Exxon, etc are all the same with the exception of octane).

Octane has absolutely ZERO affect on an engine and its performance UNLESS the engine would knock on the lower octane forcing timing retardation. If that happens, then one could confidently argue that running regular instead of premium would REDUCE mileage, but again this is only if the engine retards timing to avoid knock. The 2.5L I-4, Nissan's workhorse, economy 4 banger DOES NOT require premium, in fact I bet it'd run fine on 85 octane even at sea level. The VQ35 is a different story, but the Rogue engine was designed to run on total junk and be economical and reliable.

Putting premium in it is a complete waste of money.

My recommendation is that you just buy a top quality regular unleaded. One with good detergents in it. The good fuels do work at keeping carbon deposits down. By time you get to 75k miles there's a huge difference between an engine running Walmart gas and one running Chevron.

I'd say Chevron and Texaco offer the best regular unleaded gas. Just stay away from grocery store, walmart, sams club, costco, off-brand, etc. It'd be fine for a few tanks, but make a habit of using a high detergent gas.

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Has anyone tried premium gas on the Rogue? If you have...feel any different?

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Totally unnecessary in this vehicle.

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Hey, I recently got my Rogue like 2 weeks ago and when I drove it off the lot, the fuel range said 360. And I filled it up laat week and the fuel range said 265 till empty. I was just wondering what type of gas should I put in my Rogue? Which gas is recommended? 87, 89 or 93? I only buy BP Gasoline btw! Thank you :)
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Regular gas, nothing above that.

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I usually put 89. I never put 87 in any of my previous cars. Should I put 87? I believe that's regular. Would I get better gas mileage if I put 93?

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You should use the grade of octane the engine was designed to run on, which is 87. You will not get better gas mileage using 93 octane.
Premium gas, which usually has an octane level of 92 or 93 (compared with regular's octane level of 87), is designed to prevent knock on cars with high compression ratios. The compression ratio is the total volume inside the cylinder that is displaced when the piston moves.

That said, the majority of cars are designed with a lower compression ratio, so that low octane gas is more than adequate to power the engine without producing knock. In fact, few cars actually require premium gasoline these days—usually it's just the luxury cars that do (though some luxury cars—like the Cadillac STS, for example—don't). The best way to find out what your car requires is to—surprise—look in the owner's manual!

If your car does not recommend premium gas: Then you don't need it. In fact, if your car doesn't say anything about premium gas usage, all you'll be doing is dumping more money into your car. Premium gas will do nothing to increase the performance of a car that wasn't designed for it, so don't waste your money. It may sound like you're giving your car the good stuff, but it doesn't notice the difference, and neither will you.

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Thank you so much for the helpful advice :) now I will start putting 87 next time I full up my tank. Do you have a 2015 Rogue as well? @RogueOne

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hey OP, please read your owners manual. most the common questions are answered in there. you might even learn a thing or two! :gapteeth:

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I just wondering if there is enough info out there to use 87 oct, this is my 15th thank and avg 22.2 with fuelly logs. Always 92 oct.

In my Rav4(2006) i tried different oct and was interesting to see that 87 gave me more mpg than 92 at that time. What do you thing about the 2014/15 Rogue.

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xtrailmty wrote:I just wondering if there is enough info out there to use 87 oct, this is my 15th thank and avg 22.2 with fuelly logs. Always 92 oct.

In my Rav4(2006) i tried different oct and was interesting to see that 87 gave me more mpg than 92 at that time. What do you thing about the 2014/15 Rogue.
Ok, this topic is really close to an existing one, so I've merged them. Do yourself a favor, read this thread, and stop using a grade of gas your engine is not designed to run.

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Thanks! didnt see it.

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There is a decent explanation of why this matters here:

http://www.cartalk.com/content/premium-vs-regular-1

It does a nice job of putting things in layman terms.

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What is the best Octane gas for a 2011 Rogue?

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The link below is for a 2011 Rogue owner's manual. That should answer any questions you may have. Happy reading and welcome to the forum...

http://cdn.dealereprocess.com/cdn/servi ... -rogue.pdf

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Lesdoublee wrote:What is the best Octane gas for a 2011 Rogue?
Welcome to the Rogue forum!

We have an incredible SEARCH feature on this forum. Merged with existing thread. Please take a moment to read the previous posts in this thread.

This cannot be stressed enough: --------> READ BEFORE CREATING NEW THREAD! <--------

Unless stated otherwise in your owners manual (and the label on the gas filler door) all modern cars are designed to run on regular gas only. The first and second generation Rogue's share essentially the same engine. It was designed and built to run on regular gas only.

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as far as i worked, out the only issue with using 87 octane as instructed by nissan; on this 4 cylinder motor is the fact that the engine revs stay low do to the nature of the cvt. being able to run at 45 mph at 1,100 rpm ( a bit above idle) it tends to create a lot detonation, and its loud. by using 93 octane fuel regardless of brand has completely eliminated the detonation knocking. now is it costing more to fill? yes, then again is only a 15 gallon tank and its a 4 cylinder. does it have any effect on performance? i really can't tell, well on paper more timing equal more performance, the truth is not hearing that detonation knock is its worth the extra pennies per gallon.


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