What turbo do u recommend?

[hek1620]

i have a kae-t with about 45k on her since stock rebuild. i'm getting 550-600cc injectors. i'm running a chipped ecu and will probably get an safc2 if also recommended. i believe the turbo is burning oil, and i basically want to make more power. but i don't want to have to change anything else on the system. like down p.(5 bolt) or manifold. i'm using a t3 .48/.42. the turbine sits about 1-1.5inches to the side of the bmc. the compressor is about .5inch away from an a/c line. but i'm sure that can be bent. what will be my best option?

[97s14guy]

Check into Turbonetics T3/T4 HiFi .60

[S13FX]

I have a Precision GT32 and I love it.

[98240]

s13fx

Where did you get the precision gt32? Thanks

[WDRacing]

http://www.pagparts.com/perfpt...turbo

They list ALL of the turbo's ever made...lol. Specs and compressor maps.

[hek1620]

i was thinking of something in the t3/to4e family. iv'e seen people on the forums with these. and they always seem happy.

[hek1620]

Check into Turbonetics T3/T4 HiFi .60

damn dude! 1600 bucks for a turbo is too much for me.

[97s14guy]

damn dude! 1600 bucks for a turbo is too much for me.

I hear ya.. but that turbo is the secks! Trust me, I use one

[C-Kwik]

Aside from the GT turbos, A T04E 50 Trim compressor is one of the best matched turbos for the KA over a very wide range of boost. As for the turbine, it really depends on your preferences. A T3 turbine would probably be the easiest choice for you as fitment would be easier. You'll have to decide your trim and A/R based on the response vs power you want.

Keep in mind though, there is a difference between a Turbonetics and Garrett turbine housing. To be more specific, the offset of the inlet to the cetermine of the turbo. Check the dimensions of your turbine against dimensional drawing of the Garrett and Turbonetics housings to determine which you have. This will make it less likely that some sort of modification will be needed.

[Edub1]

Aside from the GT turbos, A T04E 50 Trim compressor is one of the best matched turbos for the KA over a very wide range of boost. As for the turbine, it really depends on your preferences. A T3 turbine would probably be the easiest choice for you as fitment would be easier. You'll have to decide your trim and A/R based on the response vs power you want.

Keep in mind though, there is a difference between a Turbonetics and Garrett turbine housing. To be more specific, the offset of the inlet to the cetermine of the turbo. Check the dimensions of your turbine against dimensional drawing of the Garrett and Turbonetics housings to determine which you have. This will make it less likely that some sort of modification will be needed.

I'm looking at that exact turbo but with the turbonetics satge III. The guy tells me that the housings are the same dimentions. I just want to be sure this will mate up to my downpipe the same. What exactely are you saying is different? I'm not quite understanding.

[extreme135]

I would recommend the turbo in the pic in the link-T3/4 60-1 .63 exhaust, http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gat3w63ar.html ,this is the one I am going to be using shortly, I am running a 50trim t3/4 60A/R .48 exhaust, it is a good turbo, hits full boost around 2700 rpm, it is good if you plan on running up to 350 hp, but more than that the 60-1 is good for over 575 whp, and spools between 3500-3800 rpm, and there is guys making 400whp on 16-18lbs.

[C-Kwik]

I'm looking at that exact turbo but with the turbonetics satge III. The guy tells me that the housings are the same dimentions. I just want to be sure this will mate up to my downpipe the same. What exactely are you saying is different? I'm not quite understanding.

Notice the dimension I put in the red box. This dimension is different for the Turbonetics design vs the Garrett design. I can't find the Garrett dimension at the moment, but this has been discussed in the KA circle before as some have had success mounting T3's on Revhard manis and some have not. Along with some differences in the master cylinders, this is also known to be a factor in fitment. In any case, just make sure this dimension is the same on any other turbo you decide to get if you want to make sure the rest of your plumbing will fit.

[Edub1]

Thank's for taking the time to post. You are talking about the compressor? I should be good with that, it's the exhaust housing that is touchy.

I think the stag III is going to be a mutch better match for this motor though.

Do you think the larger wheel might change the pressure dynamic enough to get away with my internal WG? I'm thinking it might allow more flow and decrease boost creep.

[hek1620]

what's the difference between the t4/t04e and the t3 60-1?

[SeVa-S13]

what's the difference between the t4/t04e and the t3 60-1?

Obviously the turbine housing size and typically the wheel on the compressor side, but alot of 60-1's come in S housings...or is that only 62-1's?

On a budget but want room to grow? The .63 a/r 50 trim T3/T04E is a great all around turbo. It won't choke on the top-end like the .48a/r but provides a better powerband than the 60-1 for a moderate power goal person. I've used one on a KA, aswell as on an SR and RB20 -- I was quite please with them all.

Oh, and don't buy some genera-brand crap of eBay.

[hek1620]

how much bigger from flange to opossite end of the turbine housing is a .63 than a .48? i have about the thickness of my pinky before i hit the bmc.

[C-Kwik]

how much bigger from flange to opossite end of the turbine housing is a .63 than a .48? i have about the thickness of my pinky before i hit the bmc.

The A/R is an internal dimension. It has no effect on the outer dimension. What I speak of is a different casting between Garrett and Turbonetics turbine housing designs. The Garrett design places the flange further away from the center axis.

Compare the diagram I posted to this photo of a Garrett turbine housing:

[hek1620]

mine is a garrett. so if i move up to a garrett .63 it should be about the same size? do the t3/t04e's come in 5 bolt?

[NateDogg]

Yes and no. 4 bolt as above for GT series and option for v-band clamps but you will not easily find 4 bolt or v-band on non-bb, non-GT turbos.

[WDRacing]

The most common output flange is the Ford 5 bolt. The second is that 4 bolt shown in Chano's post.

The picture from the website you purchase from should give you the answer, if not, call them.

WD

[C-Kwik]

mine is a garrett. so if i move up to a garrett .63 it should be about the same size? do the t3/t04e's come in 5 bolt?

As long as it's made from the same casting or an exact replica. As I said before, the A/R has nothing to do with the casting. Garrett and Turbonetics both make .63 A/R T3 turbine housings, but have different A/Rs. The A/R simply refers to teh size of the nozzle inside the housing. Turbine housing s are built by each manufacturer from the same cast. They just machine the insides differently for the diffrerent trim wheels and A/R.

[hek1620]

so i'll be good space wise, right?

[C-Kwik]

If you get a housing wioth teh same dimensions externally, it will locate the rest of the turbo in the same place...so yes.

[KATwo40]

I'd just like to add, from experience, in reference to the diagram Ckwik posted with the "red" dimension:

The Garrett unit moves the center of the inlet further away from the center of the turbo, making it require more space, latterally, for clearance. I just suffered this same issue. Had a Turbonetics exhaust housing, everything cleared fine. Swapped to a Garrett unit, no more clearance, hence the bottom mount endeavor.

[mikerbike]

I'd also like to add, from experience, I recently switched to a .63 A/R turbine housing (from a .48). Both were Garrett, both fit exactly the same. I even have a wastgate dump that's not flexible and it still bolted up perfectly. I actually switched back to the .48 because I liked the spool up better and I'm not making much HP anyway. Looking into the turbine inlets, it was an obvious size difference in the 'nozzle'. The outer diameter of the two was ever-so-slightly different, maybe 1/4" or so... Anyway, hope that helps.

[hek1620]

that helped.