what timing belt are you running?

[Adrian gt]

I'm ordering parts for my RB25 today and i already got water pump and oil pump but i was wondering if i should try a Greddy Extreme or power enterprise over the OE belt. i think i could get a power enterprise for about $100 though a friend but there's also the hks ones. are these any better or just a name and i should get whatever's cheaper

[gawdzilla]

OEM. it's less than $30

[Kansei240sx]

Power Enterprise Super Strong Timing belt.

[gawdzilla]

don't believe all the hype about these aftermarket timing belts. i built my motor with a greddy to start (back when oem parts weren't nearly as available as they are now). nothing special, just overpriced. switched to an oem one when i redid my water pump cuz my belt rubbed on the cover a bit (my own fault).

oem one is great quality. it has metal lining in it just like the greddy and its actually much easier to line up cuz its marked like the factory.

maybe the aftermarket ones will be less stretchy after the 50k mile mark, but who are you kidding you're not keeping the motor for the next 10 years

[rb25drag]

HKS all the way!!!

Dont mess around with the timing. It will cost you BIG money in the end..

Get a bullet proof belt that way you dont worry about it breaking.... only a few extra bucks right now. Will Save you!!!!

[Adrian gt]

HKS all the way!!!

Dont mess around with the timing. It will cost you BIG money in the end..

Get a bullet proof belt that way you dont worry about it breaking.... only a few extra bucks right now. Will Save you!!!!

my only question is what proof is there that the hks is any stronger than stock?

and where is a good palce to get RB parts? i can get some of the stuff though work but the local dealer only had JUN timing belts for like $125 and to be honest i'd buy a OEM one for $30 because i'm just looking to replace the one in there i'm not going for a 1000hp 10k rpm motor

[madcowvert]

oem one is great quality. it has metal lining in it just like the greddy and its actually much easier to line up cuz its marked like the factory.

I got my greddy belt about 8 months ago and it has the TDC marks.. maybe yours was and older version

[rb25drag]

[QUOTE=Adrian gt]my only question is what proof is there that the hks is any stronger than stock?

and where is a good palce to get RB parts? i can get some of the stuff though work but the local dealer only had JUN timing belts for like $125 and to be honest i'd buy a OEM one for $30 because i'm just looking to replace the one in there i'm not going for a 1000hp 10k rpm motor

The HKS belt is made of Nylon material that is used in police officers bullet proof vest's. Good enough to survive a bullet, Good enough for my engine.

I bought mine off Ebay. Just becareful of who you buy from!! There is several very good sellers of RB parts on there tho. The HKS is 125$ Well worth every dime.

You could go oem 30$ but thats like a police officer stepping in the path of a bullet without his vest. Take at your own risk.

Buying a good timing belt doesnt mean your running high rpm's or alot of power. The power doesnt effect it. Its the cold hard starts in the morning and the heat and stretching after a long period of time that wears & tears on it.

[lucky7]

im a name brand whore. i got a greddy one.

[FriedEGs]

i ordered a Greddy from phase2 and recieved a PE belt.. I have no complaints... and it had the tdc marks on it...

[digzsublime]

The HKS belt is made of Nylon material that is used in police officers bullet proof vest's. Good enough to survive a bullet, Good enough for my engine.

I bought mine off Ebay. Just becareful of who you buy from!! There is several very good sellers of RB parts on there tho. The HKS is 125$ Well worth every dime.

You could go oem 30$ but thats like a police officer stepping in the path of a bullet without his vest. Take at your own risk.

Buying a good timing belt doesnt mean your running high rpm's or alot of power. The power doesnt effect it. Its the cold hard starts in the morning and the heat and stretching after a long period of time that wears & tears on it.

I believe the material in the vests is Carbon Kevlar. I could be wrong.

Bullet proof belt?

Tell ya what. 10 bucks says that my old school mini .22 cal splits that high dollar belt in 2.

Cold hard starts, heat and stretching effect the belt but high horse power doesn't. Hmmm, I think you failed high school physics dude. If you have an opinion, fine. But, don't try and justify it with half assed information.

Yeah, those factory belts are crap. I mean they only last 5 to 10 years and like 75k to 100k miles or more in most cases. How many high horsepower DSM, Hondas, Nissans are getting beaten on daily with the O.E.M. belts and holding together just fine? I'd have to guess, the vast majority of them.

Waaaaiiiiiiit, Aren't you the guy that made like 4000 WHP with an SAFC and stock turbo?? Sheeeeet, nevermind what I said. Do whatever this guys is doing.

Anyway Adrian, I'm gonna have to go with gawdzilla on this for 2 reasons.

1. He seems to know his stuff!

2. While it is likely that the aftermarket belts may be a little stronger and less prone to stretching, it's unlikely to benefit you unless you are running alot more power than stock and or maintaining sustained high engine rpm for a long period of time. Yes, it is a little extra insurance. But, depending on your performance goals, it's unlikely to be justified.

Now, having said that. I will eventually buy one of the regoddamdiculously over priced aftermarket belts for the bling factor. But for now, the new O.E.M. belt that is probably made in the same factory will be fine.

Disclaimer: This is only my opinion.
Modified by digzsublime at 2:20 AM 9/29/2007

[ryan15]

hey where did you get the oem belt for that cheap?? I need to replace mine, thanks man.Ryan

[themadscientist]

OEM works fine.

[rb25drag]

I believe the material in the vests is Carbon Kevlar. I could be wrong.

Bullet proof belt?

The HKS belt is made of Nylon material made

Cold hard starts, heat and stretching effect the belt but high horse power doesn't. Hmmm, I think you failed high school physics dude. If you have an opinion, fine. But, don't try and justify it with half assed information.

Yeah, those factory belts are crap. I mean they only last 5 to 10 years and like 75k to 100k miles or more in most cases. How many high horsepower DSM, Hondas, Nissans are getting beaten on daily with the O.E.M. belts and holding together just fine? I'd have to guess, the vast majority of them.

Waaaaiiiiiiit, Aren't you the guy that made like 4000 WHP with an SAFC and stock turbo?? Sheeeeet, nevermind what I said. Do whatever this guys is doing.

Anyway Adrian, I'm gonna have to go with gawdzilla on this for 2 reasons.

1. He seems to know his stuff!

2. While it is likely that the aftermarket belts may be a little stronger and less prone to stretching, it's unlikely to benefit you unless you are running alot more power than stock and or maintaining sustained high engine rpm for a long period of time. Yes, it is a little extra insurance. But, depending on your performance goals, it's unlikely to be justified.

Now, having said that. I will eventually buy one of the regoddamdiculously over priced aftermarket belts for the bling factor. But for now, the new O.E.M. belt that is probably made in the same factory will be fine.

Disclaimer: This is only my opinion.

Modified by digzsublime at 2:20 AM 9/29/2007

People like you are a Disgrace to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Actually it was 8000HP.

I Bet ya a 1000$ that your old school.22 cal wont go threw it. It might scar it!!!!!!!!!!!

Just get a good belt man. Doesnt matter if its HKS or Greddy. Either one is a good belt.

[nizmo zilvia]

Hahaha you guys are funny.

If you want a belt and your engine is stock or slightly modified go OEM. But honestly just get name brand that you know you can trust like Greddy, HKS, JUN, Nismo, etc... Right now I have a Greddy timing belt and I've only put around 50 miles on it or so. Everything is perfect even though its only 50 miles and probably wont make a difference. Anyways I'll be getting a Nismo belt on my build only cause its black hahaha. This Greddy belt is throwing off my theme!! grr...

Anyone wants my belt for $80 shipped can have it.

[digzsublime]

hey where did you get the oem belt for that cheap?? I need to replace mine, thanks manRyan

Well, I know some of our sponsor can get the O.E.M. belts and I'm not trying to take anything away from them. But, I got mine from nismoparts.com . Talked to Shay there. He seemed like he knew what he was talking about. It was like 29 bucks plus shipping IIRC.

It's a legit O.E.M. nissan belt and it even comes with the official looking sticker you can put under the hood to record when you changed it.
Modified by digzsublime at 1:21 PM 9/29/2007

[gawdzilla]

You could go oem 30$ but thats like a police officer stepping in the path of a bullet without his vest. Take at your own risk.

are you serious

[Adrian gt]

Well, I know some of our sponsor can get the O.E.M. belts and I'm not trying to take anything away from them. But, I got mine from nismoparts.com . Talked to Shay there. He seemed like he knew what he was talking about. It was like 29 bucks plus shipping IIRC.

It's a legit O.E.M. nissan belt and it even comes with the official looking sticker you can put under the hood to recod when you changed it.

thanks man, i know what i'm getting now. 29 can't beat that, and i'm getting something more important that the timing belt, the Timing Belt Tensioners

[digzsublime]

Cool Adrian. Definitely a good idea to change those tensioners! G/L. Hope everything goes well.

[Adrian gt]

got my timing belt and both pullies for under $100 at the local nissan deal (who knew) but turns out my boss who said my parts were in didn't have them, they were over at phase 2 which is closed on the weekend. so all i got done today was pulling the motor and getting it on a stand, taking the water pump and all the accessory belts off. clutch looks good but i want to get a new once since it's going to be a pinta to change once i shoe horn that motor into the 240. debating on a light weight flywheel too.

I'll start a build thread somewhere else though

[oneruffryder42]

well here is my belt, hks............ ummm i think u get what u pay for so yah

[Kansei240sx]

I think you guys are putting to much whining back and forth into it.

I picked up the power enterprise belt from Phase2 a few years back and its just as rigid and sturdy as when i pulled it out of the box, of course its worn in a bit from heat and what not, so its just barely a bit softer, but ill be damned if i see this thing skip a tooth because it snapped or shredded. This thing is ****ing strong as hell, i would have to say more so than stock. With materials its made out of IE, kevlar/carbon weave. The amount of Torque required to break this thing is something i'd never see so i see it as cheap insurance.

[devil_child]

well here is my belt, hks............ ummm i think u get what u pay for so yah

Yep, you do get what you pay for. I paid for an oem belt and thats what I got.

but really I daily driv....Beat the crap out of my engine, and have been just fine on the oe belt.

[HxC_Nismo]

im running a power enterprise timing belt on my rb26

[sleeper101]

YES agree HKS, Never had an issue!!! Always been strong and very durable.

[Cpt_Impossible]

I went with the Greddy just to be on the safe side. That, and I couldn't find a reliable place to buy OEM RB parts at the time.

http://www.tweakit.net is a great Aussie site that I've found. They sell a lot of service parts for the RB's rather than hunting down tensioners, belts, and hoses.

[l0nestar]

GReddy belt from Shay. I could have purchased the OEM, but I was already planning on clear covers + adjustable cams -- bling factor! May have not been worth it but meh. Also went with the N1 pumps too..

[BoostFab]

Power Enterprise Super Strong Timing belt.

ditto, PE here as well. i'm skeptical on oem belt for 600hp setup on a long term. some extra $ for the extra insurance is way worth-it IMO. not like it's 100$ difference.

[Darius]

PE