What the hell's wrong with wakopedia?

[ScrapMetal]

I noticed this on another thread in 240 gen chat, every time I go to post a link to a wakopedia article it comes out like this

http://en.wakopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Instead of being Wiki-pedia, it comes out as wakopedia. Is this wakopedia being ghey because they want more donations or is there something wrong with the forums?

[breadbox]

i have no problem reading wiki. but I don't post links to wiki so IDK.

[ScrapMetal]

Post a link to wiki-pedia.

Maybe I got a virus? Aww man, wakopedia is playing with my mind!

[dasoupdude]

protip: we hate wakopedia

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[ScrapMetal]

That thread is two years old. I had no problem posting links to wiki-pedia articles before, why the whole wakopedia crap now? That's why I don't know whether it's Wiki-pedia, NICO, or maybe it's me.

[breadbox]

I almost started to read it but then I scrolled down and saw its entirety. Wow, now I know.

[dasoupdude]

That thread is two years old. I had no problem posting links to wiki-pedia articles before, why the whole wakopedia crap now?

Because wiki is a very unreliable source, anyone could go in there and edit just about anything. It's about as useful as a glass hammer.

Its encouraged avoid wiki as much as you can.

[MinisterofDOOM]

It is a NICO word filter thing. I didn't realize it existed though.

[seang]

Because wiki is a very unreliable source, anyone could go in there and edit just about anything. It's about as useful as a glass hammer.

Its encouraged avoid wiki as much as you can.

Is it really that bad?

[dasoupdude]

Yeeep, I'm sure if you look up something which is commonly searched, you could probably point out something wrong. try like 240sx or nissan or something.

[Captain Slow]

Yeeep, I'm sure if you look up something which is commonly searched, you could probably point out something wrong. try like 240sx or nissan or something.

On the 240 page on wiki, the swaps and conversions section is just a clusterf***. It is so bad, it hurts my head to try and read it.

[AZhitman]

^ Yep.

We tried to help them out, they accused me of "spamming"... like we're hurting for traffic or something...

Tried to explain to them that 240sx.org has been around since 1998... but their editors kept arguing like a bunch of brainwashed sheep, so I dropped it.

So, wakopedia gets a hearty from me.

[Red coupe]

^ Yep.

We tried to help them out, they accused me of "spamming"... like we're hurting for traffic or something...

Tried to explain to them that 240sx.org has been around since 1998... but their editors kept arguing like a bunch of brainwashed sheep, so I dropped it.

So, wakopedia gets a hearty from me.

Thats all well and good, but preventing people on a forum that exists primarily for exchanging information from exchanging information because of your personal grudge is pretty weak.

Sure there is a lot of crap and inaccuracies... but there is a lot of good info too.

I'm sure you were trying to help with your changes, but keeping your forum members from being able to share articles with each other because they misconstrued your posting of links to your site as self promotion (what I would have thought too) is pretty childish.

[aquaman]

I was just trying to post a reply about Fiero engine fires!
Modified by aquaman at 10:47 PM 12/17/2009

[AZhitman]

Thats all well and good, but preventing people on a forum that exists primarily for exchanging information from exchanging information because of your personal grudge is pretty weak.

Sure there is a lot of crap and inaccuracies... but there is a lot of good info too.

I'm sure you were trying to help with your changes, but keeping your forum members from being able to share articles with each other because they misconstrued your posting of links to your site as self promotion (what I would have thought too) is pretty childish.

Spare me your self-righteous overdramatizations.

I think they can find the site themselves. I'm under no obligation to contribute to their traffic.

In fact, I actually take offense at your (incorrect but typical) implication.

Might I remind you that we're one of the VERY FEW forums that has EVERYTHING available and accessible, for free, even FSM's, without even requiring registration. No "premium content" or hidden forums...

Always have, always will.

You're saying you would have thought it "self-promotion"? Really? How's that? We didn't even add links to the site...

Next time you feel compelled to play armchair QB, know what you're talking about. That's not too much to ask.

[Jesda]

wakopedia is responsible for solid C- term papers all over the world.

[AZhitman]

wakopedia is responsible for solid C- term papers all over the world.

Yep.

If Mr. Criticalbutt hadn't pooped all up in the thread, I was gonna say that one of the issues was that they want to know what your "expertise" is [when you contribute]. So, one of our staff pointed out that we've been running a 240sx forum (the first and original) since late 97 / early 98 (which was actually the old Amarok mailing list before that, dating back to 1991).

Their response was that "forums are not an accurate source of information".



I told them we located a more reliable source... but that all the little Japanese guys who built the S-chassis were retired, and having a hell of a time learning English.

[MinisterofDOOM]

wakopedia's problem is that too many of their volunteers are arrogant, self-superior jerks who became volunteers not to help the site, but to impose their will on the internets.

[ka24boos13t]

I've found that wakopedia is good for certain things, just as any "actual" encyclopedia is. Things that contain any sort of opinion are generally a bit inaccurate, but more concrete things ( well ok, mainly math ) are often solid. Many times I've found wakopedia a little more accessible than the literature recommended by schools. It has it's pros and cons but It's about as credible as an encyclopedia is normally.

[Red coupe]

Spare me your self-righteous overdramatizations.

I think they can find the site themselves. I'm under no obligation to contribute to their traffic.

In fact, I actually take offense at your (incorrect but typical) implication.

Might I remind you that we're one of the VERY FEW forums that has EVERYTHING available and accessible, for free, even FSM's, without even requiring registration. No "premium content" or hidden forums...

Always have, always will.

You're saying you would have thought it "self-promotion"? Really? How's that? We didn't even add links to the site...

Next time you feel compelled to play armchair QB, know what you're talking about. That's not too much to ask.

The fact is you have a grudge, and so I can't link someone to a wakopedia article on the forum.

What part of that is untrue?

And you know what... Forums are NOT an accurate source of information. The information on here and in your articles are as trustworthy as wakopedia at best. Just like wiki the information here is contributed by people who may or may not know what they are talking about (and the entire range in between).But at least on wiki the information posted can be reviewed and edited.

And as far as armchair quarterback...What do you call blocking the name of their site from your forum because they wouldn't let you update articles?
Modified by Red coupe at 1:32 AM 12/18/2009

[ScrapMetal]

The fact is you have a grudge, and so I can't link someone to a wakopedia article on the forum.

I'm with Sean on this one.

So far all the arguments I've read against Wiki-pedia have been half assed opinions. So because Greg is butt hurt because of what a guy at Wiki-pedia told him two years ago, the rest of this forums members have to suffer the consequences? This is so childish, it's funny.

I get you're pissed at Wiki-pedia, but don't take it out on the members of this forum by taking away our ability to post links to Wiki-pedia articles. It should all come down to the individual, whether they want to click on the link or not.

Its encouraged avoid wiki as much as you can.

It's not even about being encouraged to "avoid Wiki", you're straight up taking away our ability to post up Wiki links. Let our own members decide whether they want to click on a Wiki link or not.

Funny thing is, this grudge is over two years old, and it wasn't even a few days ago that I was posting images that were hosted by Wiki-pedia problem free.

This whole situation gets a big from me.

[safin]

I've found that wakopedia is good for certain things, just as any "actual" encyclopedia is. Things that contain any sort of opinion are generally a bit inaccurate, but more concrete things ( well ok, mainly math ) are often solid. Many times I've found wakopedia a little more accessible than the literature recommended by schools. It has it's pros and cons but It's about as credible as an encyclopedia is normally.

more accesible than literature recommended by schools?

It may be harder than just typing in the wiki site in your browser, but come on...give real knowledge a try

[AZhitman]

I don't have links to other sites, either. That's my call. Sorry if you don't agree, but there's more to it than you know, and more than I feel obligated to explain.

Let's just classify this one as agreeing to disagree. Or call it a "business decision".

If you absolutely need to know something that ONLY wiki can teach you, then by all means, type it in your address bar and have a ball.

Point is this: I'm not sucking up to anyone. WE had the most accurate information on the topic (collectively). THEY chose to discount it based on a false assumption. THEN they blacklisted us based on that assumption, which carries a slew of not-so-good consequences from an SEO standpoint, which means nothing to you but a lot to me.

But you had no way of knowing that. Now you're aware. I don't expect it to change your opinion on the matter, nor do I need your express approval.

I'm not going to sit here and direct traffic somewhere that doesn't have any respect for what we (collectively) have amassed.

BTW, you should look up "armchair quarterback" on wiki, since you used it in the improper context. It means second-guessing a call you're ill-qualified to make. IF you were a forum owner with 7 years in the biz, then it wouldn't be "armchair quarterbacking".

Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong. And may I remind you (again) that we're one of the VERY FEW forums that has EVERYTHING available and accessible, for free, even FSM's, without even requiring registration. No "premium content" or hidden forums...

I think you'll survive with just this one concession.

And be it known, that your contributions in YOUR areas of expertise are always appreciated and defended - I myself reference your posts quite frequently, so this is certainly not a matter of discounting your contributions.

[Mr1der]

wakopedia's problem is that too many of their volunteers are arrogant, self-superior jerks who became volunteers not to help the site, but to impose their will on the internets.

like a lot of forum moderators?

[seang]

The last things I looked up on Wiki were; the periodic table because of my late, proto-obsession with radioactivity; and a list of congnitive biases.

[Mr1der]

I wonder if I can go on there and add Awesome to the periodic table.

it's an important element in anything.

[ka24boos13t]

It may be harder than just typing in the wiki site in your browser, but come on...give real knowledge a try

I've given "real knowledge" a try. That real knowledge is often where wakopedia obtains it's knowledge ( notice I said often, not always ). I'm not saying that literature recommended by schools is worthless, because I use it every day. But wakopedia has been proven to me over the past few years to be extremely helpful and efficient in many subjects. For instance, I've scoured through 4 different books on computer science theory looking for the answer to a particular question only to have it easily and obviously pointed out to me through a minute or two of searching wakopedia. Would I have found it in the literature I have? Eventually, Yes. But to discount wakopedia as any type of credible source is ridiculous to me.

[xX RB Xx]

lawl. someone was bored.

[AZhitman]

WTF is that?

See, those douchenozzles will probably blame THAT on me too.

That last line isn't even grammatically correct, and they discarded the info on our convertible VIN database, which is quite thorough.

Whatever.

[xX RB Xx]

I laughed when I saw that. I guess they are into providing inaccurate information. No wonder they are need of donation.