What the hell is this Phantom Grip LSD crap?

[kyle1911]

Here i cannot see how this contraption could come anywares close to converting a open differential to a Locking/LSD ??? what they hell are they trying to pull?

whats the theory behind this?

[themadscientist]

as always I advise go to the source.http://www.phantomgrip.com/how_it_works.htm

[fuzion]

I always see that s***.. bugs the crap out of me

I hate ebay sellers that dont have a correct picture of a product; or the product is universal and they dont put the right description..

Like those headlights for the s13 that are "SUPER DUPER XENON HID BRIGHT BLUE" or whatever

the keyword for the search is 240SX S13 HEADLIGHT [or something] and you read what they actually write and it says "This will fit all 1990+ Jeep Cherokees"

and im like.. wtf.. atleast fix it so you dont look like an idiot..

[IvoryJ30t]

ok, heres how it half *** works. the phantom grip is two plates of metal with springs that force the plates apart.

the unit is installed in the differential so that the force of the springs bind the plates against the side gears. [the gears the spider gears engage]

it trys to force both sides of the diff to turn together [like an LSD]

personally, i would not waste time installing such crap, but if your car is not powerful, supposedly it does a decent job. just dont expect it to last long, or to be friendly to the diff.

if your car is powerful, its supposedly not as effective.

ive never used one, and never plan to.

[kyle1911]

thanks for the info. that isnt touching my car.

[APEXi240]

A lot of kids in NJ call it Phantom Slip.

Or Phantom Grip, its so phantom like, you can't feel it.

VLSD>Phantom Grip, usually cheaper too.

[S13240]

My opinion on this whole "phantom slip" thing that is going around. I think that the reason why most people don't see good results with it is because they didn't install it correctly. As mentioned on phantom grip's website it must be installed correctly by a professional.

[IvoryJ30t]

i think the fact that its a piece of **** has alot to do with it not working also.

[-HyJynX-]

im not a fan of phantom grip...and try to keep people awap from it. Like someone said above, VLSD>PG

[themadscientist]

Well anytime you try to halfway upgrade something can really dam it for half-*** results?

[S13240]

Well anytime you try to halfway upgrade something can really dam it for half-*** results?

Agreed.

[spitz7985]

SCC likes it a lot in their 200sx SE-R

[nismodave]

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....+grip

This was recently discussed.

If you are too lazy....

Long story short i installed it .....did not work correctly.

[SingleCamSam]

Anything is better than a VLSD.

[nismodave]

Anything is better than a VLSD.

Ummmm....why is that SAM???

Oh right....open rear ends a.k.a. one wheel wonders, and Phantom dont work for crap Grips are much better.

I ran all of the above, and the VLSD owns them both.

I didnt have 1000 for a Nismo or Kazz unit.

[spitz7985]

agreed, VLSDs do suck. i'd take a phantom grip over it. i believe in them.

[dareo]

of all the LSD options, i like the Nismo unit for 700 i found on some nissan parts page. 700 for a new LSD that i know will fit isnt too bad, stills gonna hit me hard in the wallet when i finally buy one.

[k6kicker]

how much is a kaaz unit running now adays?

[Bandit240]

HOw about do it the old muscle car guy way. Pop open the diff break out your welder and weld that sucker together.

Im going to do this with my spare diff and see how it works.

[auto180sx]

thats what i was thinking, lemmie know how it works out, i might do it (welding the gears together) my lsd works when it feels like it, considering how old it is and since it came as a option form nissan, it isnt to bad i guess.

[themadscientist]

Anything is better than a VLSD.

I diagree, I've had a couple of 250hp VLSD cars and they performed flawlessly. I wouldn't pull a Viscous until 300hp. Diffs are like any mechanical component they require maintenance.

[dima]

Diffs are like any mechanical component they require maintenance.

What are you talking about? VLSD is a sealed unit. NO MAINTENANCE Require!

[themadscientist]

well there is a little drain plug and a little fill plug in the cover. Periodic use of these to change the diff fluid will keep it humming.

the Viscous works fine for lightly tuned cars, I can't concience bashing a unit just because it's not Cusco or KAAZ or Nismo. If you have the viscous use it till it pops, if it pops. I hate to break to many people but for all their smack talking their stock diffs can handle their Hellacrazystoopidphat junkyard SR, RB or CA swaps.

Oh yeah "!" to you to:D

[dima]

hey man, I agree with you about changing diff fluid. I'm using syntetic oil for example. However, if you change or not diff fluid it makes no difference for VLSD unit, couse it is sealed.P.S. I love mine KA24DET with only some mods.

[themadscientist]

I have yet to break one but that does not mean I don't have three Nismo four pin diffs on the bench waiting to get in the game if I blow the VLSD

[dima]

You are lucky man to have all these hardware.

[themadscientist]

No I am a poor man(now) with a cluttered house:pface

[Cyberkreig]

TMS - I've been looking for the chance to ask you about diffs/diff fluid for a while now.. seeing as how you seem to know about that sort of stuff.

Getting ready to put in a J30 VLSD. I know i want to use synth fluid, and I lean toward redline. just wondering about different weights and how they will effect the functionality. 75-90 good enough? 75-90ns? heavier, lighter?

[k6kicker]

sorrect em if im wrong but the 300z tt uses a vlsd right? i have yet to hear of anyone swapping rear ends on them and my own Z uses the stofck dif and im putting down quite a bit of power (no dyno withing 80 miles so i cant really give numbers)