What swap would you do

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fighlikeapitbull
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Im in the process of putting together money for my s13 to get a new engine i just wanted to know peoples opinion on what swap i should do here are my choices ca18det 2jzge turbo ka24de rb20det which one??? sr20 is not going to happen i want to be some what different


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if you really wanted to be different, none of your choices are any good. you listed very popular swaps spanning over a broad spectrum of performance and cost. methinks you have much more research to do.

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You should start a poll for this thread...

I think for most, the CA wouldnt be an option...

And if you are going to throw off your weight distribution then you might as well get decient displacment, RB20 out the window...

I like KA because of its realitive simplicity but you cant go wrong with the 2J you want to race in a stright line...

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VQ. Go to sleep. Wake up. Then search and do you own homework.


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fighlikeapitbull wrote:i want to be some what different
If you want to feel special, you shouldn't of gotten a 240.

2JZ if you have the money, time, and skills. KA-T if you want to keep it simple. Then again, a lot of people have those too. F*ck it, go K20-T!

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What i meant by different is just not go sr everyone i know that has a modified 240 has a sr20........... The vq would be sick but its way out of my budget

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fighlikeapitbull wrote:What i meant by different is just not go sr everyone i know that has a modified 240 has a sr20........... The vq would be sick but its way out of my budget
I know what you meant, I'm just messing with you. I still like the 2JZ if you want something different, but if VQ is out of your budget, then 2JZ might also be out of your budget too.

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S14toRPS13 wrote:I know what you meant, I'm just messing with you. I still like the 2JZ if you want something different, but if VQ is out of your budget, then 2JZ might also be out of your budget too.
it would be a na 2jz out of a lexus junkyard that i go to have me a good offer so that why im considering it

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SR is simple, easy to get parts, common, cheap, and if you sold the car it would sell easier

KA is the same... Build the motor, most people don't do that

CA18det... You don't even wanna tread into a 20 year old motor that isn't easy to find in the statesCA18et ...

2jz IMO is the best, but come on, if you got cash like that, just buy a IS300...

RB20 is slowRB25 is very nice... Pricey pricey...RB26.... Got that cash again?? Buy a supra

VH45.. awesome..is easy to source parts... they're making adapters for trannys.. pretty much everything to wire it in... If you find a good running motor that was taken care of, you're good to go

VQ35 i would steer clear of this until it really makes a better break thru


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you could be differnt and leave it stock

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Yea i should consider the sr20.......rb20 might be slow but its way better than ka24.....I might just buy the 2jz from the junk yard and sell it and make a good profit........Yes the ca will be a headache to find parts but for some reason im in love with the little angry engine

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Haha. I have run CAs for about 5 years now. 90% of the people that I meet at gatherings have never seen or even heard of it. So there is your being quasi-unique. I ran an unopened 20 year old motor at over 1bar for over 4 years. Popped it with crappy oil. I am on #2. And both were easy to find. And install. And cost half of an SR. Of which I have worked on, and beaten, many of. Finding parts is as simple as asking the counter jockey for X part from either a 1986 200SX CA18ET or a 1988 Pulsar NX SE CA18DE. Try getting an SR coil pack at Auto Zone.

If you are interested in any motor, I suggest staying out of gen chat. There are a lot of e-racers with stock KAs in here that like to think they know what they are talking about. Go read up and ask questions in each motor's subforum. Good luck, and each swap has its own merits.

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rb20 is not way better than a ka!!! ive owned a few and its a pita to get simple parts when you need them

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Hey man thanks i agree with you i love the ca18 its so sick and i think that it is way better than the sr20

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Yeah i have a stock ka right now, i would like to go ka-t but my motor has over 235k on it so it would be all 'wtf..?' if i tried modding her. If your ka is in good condition then a rebuild and modded ka-t would be cool, buti dont have time so im going cliche and ordering an sr20 from jsa :\. I wanted to be different too, but ive had it a couple years now and im not ever going to have enough to drop a VQ in her, which would be my choice #1. I think the only reason i didn't want to go 6 cylinders was the weight but i think (..?) that the VQ weighs less than the RB....and the sr20=4cyl aluminum block so its real light. Yeah just throwin that out there.
rico05 wrote:Go read up and ask questions in each motor's subforum. Good luck, and each swap has its own merits.
+1 ^^good advice. advantages/disadvantages to either one, and some might be more practical for what you intend to do with the car then others..? GL

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Modify your car based on what meets YOUR needs only after doing the requisite research on all of the available options. This is the only way that you can ensure it is exactly the way you want.

On another note no one mentioned the LSx/T56 swap lol

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Well here is my check list 1. Cheap under 3k 2.Power 3.Preferably turbo 4.Rev happy is a huge plus i love engines that like to rev hard 5.Reliable 6.Not very important but cool factor 7.Not being a motor that everyone and their mother has 8.If most people don't know or never heard of it all the better 9.Weight 10.Availability cause chances ill blow at least one considering how bad i beat on cars lol

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CHEAP, FAST, RELIABLE. YOU CAN ONLY PICK TWO such is the life of modifying cars. there's no such thing as all three unless you inherit said car for cheap after someone else has done all the work

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rico05 wrote: Try getting an SR coil pack at Auto Zone.
They may not sell them at autozone, but if you cant find a coil pack for an sr20, then you are lost in the 240sx world. They are a dime a dozen, just replaced all 4 of mine. Also, the ignitor chip is the same as the older Q45. Parts for sr's are certainly not hard to come by and not a good reason to disqualify it as a feasable swap. Just that it has become the new fanboy engine to have, would be the only reason I would reconsider buying my sr. I tell you what though, 18 lbs of boost on my gt2871r feels pretty strong and doubt that CA could keep up. IMO, they are all great engines, it would completely depend on your plans for the car, I would do some more research and decide wisely, its not fun to hate the engine u have and want to swap it again.

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If you wanted to be different you would have searched and made an educated decsion based on your findings.....and plz lets not get into ca vs. sr its been done to death

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EazyBreazy wrote:CHEAP, FAST, RELIABLE. YOU CAN ONLY PICK TWO such is the life of modifying cars. there's no such thing as all three unless you inherit said car for cheap after someone else has done all the work
by cheap i meant under 3k
blacksrjdm wrote:They may not sell them at autozone, but if you cant find a coil pack for an sr20, then you are lost in the 240sx world. They are a dime a dozen, just replaced all 4 of mine. Also, the ignitor chip is the same as the older Q45. Parts for sr's are certainly not hard to come by and not a good reason to disqualify it as a feasable swap. Just that it has become the new fanboy engine to have, would be the only reason I would reconsider buying my sr.
that is exactly why i am reconsidering it

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U want cheap, somewhat fast and reliable??? Buy a Honda. You want real power, more fun, extra work, issues, headaches? Build your Nissan. Now, the only reason I say that it isnt going to be reliable, is because if you beat the ish out of it, then things ARE going to break. I would buy a second vehicle for reliability, and for when you are building your 240sx and for when it is down. Be prepared for lots of fun, lots of work, lots of trips to the junkyard, lots of trips online and lots of reading on here. Good luck.

Question, what do you plan to do with this car? DD, drift, drag, autoX, Track racing???

You want a powerful, reliable, rarely powered 240sx? Build it with a LS1, the right way, and you will have in excess of 400 HP and you can beat the hell out of it as a DD and will suprise the hell out of most other cars on the road.

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Go LS! V8 power is definitely the way to go.

fighlikeapitbull
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By cheap i meant less than 3k on front clip i know that im going to go threw ish while doing the swap i have 4 cars in my driveway so having another car is not an issue the car will be used for dd and some drifting and just having fun really its probably going to get completely overhauled while im at it cause the frame needs a lot of work so this car is going to take a while to be done


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