What suspension Mod after coilovers?

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okay so I just got my Dmax coilovers installed at PSM.they ride super nice and better then my blown struts.

Anyways Martin(install guy) was saying I need to an arm if i want to be able to adjust the camber for my rear?What arm is this he is talking about?

Also any other suspension mods that are mainly important after coilovers?Suspension =way better then exhaust and intake on a KA


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get anything you require to get a good alignment, then keep on the suspension refresh, like bushings,STBs, etc

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mrgrape wrote:okay so I just got my Dmax coilovers installed at PSM.they ride super nice and better then my blown struts.

Anyways Martin(install guy) was saying I need to an arm if i want to be able to adjust the camber for my rear?What arm is this he is talking about?

Also any other suspension mods that are mainly important after coilovers?Suspension =way better then exhaust and intake on a KA
You'll need RUCA's (rear upper control arms) to adjust camber.

You'll need an alignment, and the rest is maintenence.

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Solid subframe bushings.

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GTR PrYdE wrote:
You'll need RUCA's (rear upper control arms) to adjust camber.

You'll need an alignment, and the rest is maintenence.
thanks man, thats what it was.how necesserary is an allignment after coilover install......its not like my steering is so f'd up....also if i plan to mod more to my suspension....shoulod i wait till i install all those parts to do alignment....instead of doing alignment over and over again.

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I heard sway bars are really great & i'm curious to know how is that nismo power brace for the s13 any1 has reviews?

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Get the RUCA's and get a poly master bushing set. Replace any other inferior or broken parts. Then do an alignment. Alignment is nessesary for tire wear, and also the car will feel better with the camber set properly and the tow set properly.

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wow u had sumone install coilovers for u u should not mod a car if u cant do ez s*** like that who does ur oil change and brakes??

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apex760 wrote:wow u had sumone install coilovers for u u should not mod a car if u cant do ez s*** like that who does ur oil change and brakes??
jeez who beat off in your cheerios? lol

for some reason people shy away from suspension stuff. dunno why but it happens no hard feelings apex just f$%ing with ya

op:replace your bushings.....your car feel feel amazing

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its all good^but if would of said he showed me how to install or let me help/watchthen ok i get it hes a noob thats learing things

not ok i heard bout these cool coilovers i gonna buy them and u installso i can be cool i gonna ask what i should buy next and not research at all

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suspension techniques sway bars are the best suspension bang for the buck for any S chassis. trust me, youll love it. it makes your car feel like a go kart.

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[QUOTE=apex760][/QUOTE]

def know what you mean. anytime i have to have work done that i cant do, i make sure i can help out and at least watch

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apex760 wrote:wow u had sumone install coilovers for u u should not mod a car if u cant do ez s*** like that who does ur oil change and brakes??
not everyone is an ace mechanic. some people just don't feel comfortable working on something they are not familiar.

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well i was reading on zilvia how some guy f***ed up while he was installing coilovers....so im like ehhhh no thanks and just took it to PSM.i do my own brakes and oil =pAre the toe rods, tie rods, etc easy to do as well?

How neccesseary is alignment though.....i kind of want to skip that part until i get all my suspension done

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mrgrape wrote:well i was reading on zilvia how some guy f***ed up while he was installing coilovers....so im like ehhhh no thanks and just took it to PSM.i do my own brakes and oil =pAre the toe rods, tie rods, etc easy to do as well?

How neccesseary is alignment though.....i kind of want to skip that part until i get all my suspension done
Ya well, those parts are easy to install if you know what your doing, but if you needed someone to install coilovers because you read on Zilvia.com that someone screwed up installing coilovers. Well, I have seen idiots mess up tie rods (tie rods are the toe rods). Alignment after coils isnt ness. Although, after you do tie rods, you will need an alignment, to set the toe properly. If you dont get an alignment, then you can bet that any bushings that are shot are getting extra stress, along with any new parts that you install, will recieve added stress because you wanted to "wait for an alignment". We cant tell you what to do. This is a common talked about topic.

Look around at all the bushings and all rubber parts, check for cracked or broken or unfunctional bushings and replace. The polyurathane master bushing set makes a world of difference. But like I said before.....
blacksrjdm wrote:Get the RUCA's and get a poly master bushing set. Replace any other inferior or broken parts. Then do an alignment. Alignment is nessesary for tire wear, and also the car will feel better with the camber set properly and the tow set properly.
Also, search around and look at what other members have done with their suspension, that way, your not clueless.....

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mrgrape wrote:How neccesseary is alignment though.....i kind of want to skip that part until i get all my suspension done
just get it. your car would ride sooo much better and you wont go through tires every week.

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nifares240 wrote:
not everyone is an ace mechanic. some people just don't feel comfortable working on something they are not familiar.
thats why we got the internet i didnt know how to drop my subframeor how to replace the old bushing with subframe risers but i researchedfor a whole week found everything i could bout it and i did it last week

then i had to redrop it cuz i forgot it said to relocate the e-brake lines its done it drives good im sure this guy has friends that work on their own car that could help

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as long as ur rear isn really low and the dude set ur front camber for u you dont need an alignment but after any arms or rods u will need itmake sure u take it to sumplace who know how to do them with aftermarket sus. like pbm if u take it to like sum little shop they could mess ur s*** up

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wow... a lot of responses don't even seem relevant to the OP's question. Sway bars aren't a must for coilovers, or an alignment.
mrgrape wrote:okay so I just got my Dmax coilovers installed at PSM.they ride super nice and better then my blown struts.

Anyways Martin(install guy) was saying I need to an arm if i want to be able to adjust the camber for my rear?What arm is this he is talking about?

Also any other suspension mods that are mainly important after coilovers?Suspension =way better then exhaust and intake on a KA
depending on how low you go, rear upper control arms and rear toe arms may be a MUST. Stock arms can only go so far until you've lowered it. I'd also look into getting some SPL tie rods to reduce bump steer, if you're not already feeling that in your steering.

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adrians_s13 wrote:wow... a lot of responses don't even seem relevant to the OP's question. Sway bars aren't a must for coilovers, or an alignment.
I think alot of good responses were given here. I.E.
GTR PrYdE wrote:
You'll need RUCA's (rear upper control arms) to adjust camber.

You'll need an alignment, and the rest is maintenence.
blacksrjdm wrote:Get the RUCA's and get a poly master bushing set. Replace any other inferior or broken parts. Then do an alignment. Alignment is nessesary for tire wear, and also the car will feel better with the camber set properly and the tow set properly.
blacksrjdm wrote:

Look around at all the bushings and all rubber parts, check for cracked or broken or unfunctional bushings and replace. The polyurathane master bushing set makes a world of difference.
Those had alot to do with the OP's original question.

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mrgrape wrote:
thanks man, thats what it was.how necesserary is an allignment after coilover install......its not like my steering is so f'd up....also if i plan to mod more to my suspension....shoulod i wait till i install all those parts to do alignment....instead of doing alignment over and over again.
Get an alignment, if the rear camber is out side of the specs you want you'll need to for adjustment. If the specs are fine and you are not trying to achive anything in particular, buy them and setting them to the same spec would be doing nothing but changing bushings for solid links (not a bad thing, but definitely not necessary)
adrians_s13 wrote:wow... a lot of responses don't even seem relevant to the OP's question. Sway bars aren't a must for coilovers, or an alignment.
Uhhh, alignment is a must. If you change the ride hight your alignment changes. That needs to be fixed or your a f***ing idiot. All the coilovers are doing are maximizing the contact between your tire and the ground, what is the point of doing that if your gonna have your wheels pointing random directions anyways.

Master bushing kit is a good idea. Old rotten rubber bushings don't hold a wheel in place very well.

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haha I worded that wrong.

I meant to sway bars are irrelevant to coilovers or alignments. Therefore they're not a "must have"

but you know what I meant

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adrians_s13 wrote:haha I worded that wrong.

I meant to sway bars are irrelevant to coilovers or alignments. Therefore they're not a "must have"

but you know what I meant
Sway bars are nice though In fact I would say sway bars before coilovers. I'd say good shocks, softer springs then most coilovers (but a good amount stiffer then stock) and sway bars...(even though thats not what I did :P)

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Red coupe wrote:Sway bars are nice though In fact I would say sway bars before coilovers. I'd say good shocks, softer springs then most coilovers (but a good amount stiffer then stock) and sway bars...(even though thats not what I did :P)
WHAAAAAAAAAT??????

Sway bars before coilovers... and why buy springs and shocks, if he already has installed coilovers???? Talk about no help at all...

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blacksrjdm wrote:
WHAAAAAAAAAT??????

Sway bars before coilovers... and why buy springs and shocks, if he already has installed coilovers???? Talk about no help at all...
As opposed to this post, which parted the clouds of confusion and shown a brilliant light on all that is truth....

I wasn't responding to the OP, I was talking with Adrian about the necessity of sway bars. Lots of people read these forms, not just the people who started the threads. There WILL be people who will read this thread before buying either in an attempt to figure out how to modify their car, my post was my advice for them. There has already been plenty of suggestions for the OP, read the thread and realize I have already made mine.


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