What snow/winter tires on your Rogue?

[Couz]

This is true, generally, lower profile = more expensive. But in this case, 16" have higher profile than 17", so 16" should be less expensive.

Be sure to go with the good 16" size -> 215/70R16

Ok, I'll give him a call again to make sure.

Thanks

[koolyce]

Ok, I'll give him a call again to make sure.

Thanks

Give us feedback if you have problem or question.

[Couz]

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Give us feedback if you have problem or question.

I will,

I'm gonna make sure I get a quote for the cheaper 16's on the Dunlops.

I had budgeted about $1000 with rims, but I'll pay a bit more for quality.

[koolyce]

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I will,

I'm gonna make sure I get a quote for the cheaper 16's on the Dunlops.

I had budgeted about $1000 with rims, but I'll pay a bit more for quality.

If you have a bit more, call Pneu Touchette to get Nokian Hakka 5 + rims. Cost me a bit more and nokian got a 50$ discount.

Nokian = best winter tire ever.

[philipa_240sx]

Nokian = best winter tire ever.

+1 I have used Nokians for the past 9 years... If the Hakka 5's were more available last year, I would have went with them instead of the Hankook's.

[Rocket J Dawg]

My dealer just quoted me 16" Firestone Winterforce on rims installed, taxes in $890.00. I had them on my last vehicle and was quite pleased. He had trouble getting the 17" steel wheels so thought I would drop to the 16's for the winter.

[sileung]

I was going to get the Nokian Hakka 5's but it doesn't seem like many places carry it. Instead I went with the Hankook Ipike RW07's.

I picked them up for $500 (tires only) all inclusive prices. I have yet to try them on snow/ice yet but I'll give an update once REAL winter comes.

Note: I got them in 215/70/16

[Couz]

Guys, I'm getting a very good review from a a tire dealer I trust alot.

The tire..Gislaved from Nordfrost.

I've been looking on the Internet and people are saying this may be one of the most underated tires out there, performance wise they are really up there with other big names for half the price.

Anyone got info on these suckers.

I'm leaning towards these as I trust this guy and he knows his stuff.

He works for UNIPNEU in the West Island.

[mrirvine]

look up in this thread...a couple of us got gislaved nordfrost 5.

no snow experience yet but they are great in rain and very smooth and quiet on dry...equal if not quieter than the OE Contis.

I ordered online from http://www.tiretrends.com

215/70/16 on steel rims, mounted, balanced and nitrogen filled....includes longer lugnuts as well ($1,003.75 to your door)

[jmcavalieri]

Since I bought the Rogue last August 2008, I used the factory tires in the winter due to the good tread, however this was the worst mistake of my life. The rims were always getting filled with snow which would then freeze and make the TPMS warning light go on and it wouldn't go away until the snow was blasted out with warm water. So this year, I went out and got winter tires. I'm going with the 215/70R-16 Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow --and I'm using steel wheels instead of the Nissan rims to allow for less snow to get in there due to not having a big opening and I will just be throwing some hub caps over the top of those.

[koolyce]

Depend also how heavy is your winter.

In Quebec, it is mandatory to have winter tire. Anyway, stock tire are not made for low temperature.

[philipa_240sx]

Sand I'm using steel wheels instead of the Nissan rims to allow for less snow to get in there due to not having a big opening and I will just be throwing some hub caps over the top of those.

The snow and ice will still get packed in there even with steel wheels. It's sometimes enough to throw the wheel balance off. When that happens, I head to the car wash and power wash the ice/snow off.

BTW, I am seriously considering removing my TPMS sensors permanently when I get new 'summer' tires in the spring. They are not required in Canada and removing the TPMS sensors does not impair the ABS, TCS or stability control systems.

TPMS was mandated by the US gov't... Read up on the TREAD act. It's an attempt to compensate for lack of tire maintenance by consumers in the wake of the Ford Explorer/Firestone tire seperation issue. IMHO, they should have made the system far more use friendly. Instead we have consumers removing TPMS systems from their vehicles, grossly over-inflating tires, etc to get rid of nuisance TPMS issues. It's created far more headaches than it solved!

[philipa_240sx]

I am getting concerned over the use of the 'Snowflake in the Mountain' symbol and the ASTM test that is required to get it. The test itself is simply done on snow and the standard really isn't that high. IMHO, It's starting to become a marketing scheme for the tire companies... if you have the symbol it's a severe service winter tire even though the tire just barely passes the test.

The standard really needs to be updated. But since it's adopted by both the American and Canadian Rubber mfg. association, I don't expect that to change anytime soon!

So what can we do? Research your options and choose the best tire you can afford. The APA (Automobile Protection Agency, a consumer advocay group in Canada) tests winter tires each year and gives a 'rating'. It's a guide that you can use to help make an informed decision.

From apa.ca:

WINTER TIRES FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES 2008-2009

- Make and Model - Rating (*= poor, ***** = Excellent)- Comments

BF Goodrich Winter Slalom - **Durable. Marginally better performance than the Uniroyal Tiger Paw Ice & Snow.

Bridgestone Blizzak WS 60 - *****Directional tire, optimized for snow and ice. Very good overall performance; the best choice for severe conditions. Expensive, offered in sizes for some high performance vehicles

Continental ContiViking Contact 3 - **Asymmetric tread design. Best suited to use on dry pavement. Quality European construction.

Continental ContiViking Contact 5 - **Traditional snow tire. Quality European construction.

Continental ContiViking Contact 2 - **Traditional snow tire. Being phased out.

Cooper Weather-Master S/T - *Insufficient details on its performance. Rated low due to the numerous safety recalls that have affected Cooper tires.

Dean Wintercat XT - *Insufficient details on its performance. Rated low due to the numerous safety recalls that have affected Cooper (which makes Dean tires).

Dunlop Graspic DS-2 - ****Tire optimized for snow and ice. Very good overall performance including competitive price point. Grip on ice is similar to the Toyo Observe G-02 Plus, not quite as good as the Bridgestone Blizzak WS 60 or the Yokohama Ice Guard IG20. Durable.

Firestone Winterforce - ***Traditional snow tire. Very good grip in deep snow. Good tire for the money. Durable.

General Altimax Arctic - ***Traditional snow tire. Similar tread pattern to the old Gislaved NordFrost 3; and the Pirelli Winter Carving.

Gislaved NordFrost 5 - ***Traditional winter tire available with factory-installed studs (where permitted), which are better than aftermarket studs.

Goodyear Nordic - **Exclusive to Canadian Tire. A better choice than the Kelly Snow Trakker ST/2; its more current design is quieter and better handling.

Goodyear Ultra Grip - **Traditional snow tire. Old technology. Very noisy. Durable.

Goodyear Ultra Grip 7 - ***European-inspired snow and ice tire that offers better performance on pavement than the Goodyear Ultra Grip. Average traction in deep snow due to its shallow and conservative tread design. Expensive.

Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice - ***A quieter ice and snow tire than the Goodyear Ultra Grip that features a deeper and more open tread design.

Hankook Winter iPike W409 - **Traditional snow tire similar to the General Altimax Artic and superior to the Kelly Snow Trakker ST/2. Low price. Suited to some performance cars.

Kumho I’Zen Stud KW11 - **Ice and snow tire. Low price. Quiet and fairly durable. The deep tread makes it a good choice among Korean tires for deep snow, but its traditional design limits its performance on ice.

Kumho I’Zen Wis KW19 - ***Directional tire with a traditional tread pattern. Superior to the Kumho I’Zen Stud in deep snow because of the generous spaces between the tread blocks.

Marshall I’Zen Stud KW11 - **Identical to the Kumho I’Zen Stud

Marshall I’Zen Wis KW19 - ***Identical to the Kumho I’Zen Wis.

Michelin X-Ice Xi2 - ****Developed from the old Michelin X-Ice. Optimized for ice and snow, but the shallow tread may limit its durability. Michelin says the tire will be long wearing. Good performance on wet or dry pavement. Expensive.

Nokian Hakkepeliitta 5 - ****This tire is available (where permitted) with factory-installed studs. Very good in deep snow. Offered in sizes suitable for performance cars. Expensive. Road hazard warranty included in the price.

Nokian WRG2 - *All-season tire that conforms to the Canadian Rubber Association specifications for a winter tire. Not optimized for snow or ice. Performance is between that of a winter tire and an all-season tire. Acceptable for the last 12 months of a lease contract, if the leasing company will accept the tires when the car is returned. Sizes available for performance cars and SUVs. Expensive. Road hazard warranty included in the price.

Pirelli Winter/ Carving Edge - ****Optimized for snow. Deep tread. Quality European construction. Pretty quiet. Expensive. Sizes available for some SUVs.

Toyo Observe G-02 Plus - *****Tire optimized for snow and ice. One of the best choices at this price even if it is not the best performer on ice. Durability due to deep treads. Suited for heavy vehicles. Mail-in rebate of $30 to $100 when you buy four tires.

Triangle TR777 - *New model. Modern tread design. Rated low because the APA has no track record on the manufacturers of this Chinese-built tire.

Uniroyal Tiger Paw Ice & Snow - **Very old technology. Weak grip on ice.

Viking Snowtech - *Made in Europe. Shallow tread pattern makes this design look like an all season tire, with a softer rubber compound for winter. Not durable. Inexpensive.

Yokohama Ice Guard IG20 - *****Very good overall performance. Along with the Bridgestone Blizzak WS60 and Michelin X-Ice Xi2, one of the best performers on ice. Less tread depth than the Bridgestone Blizzak WS 60, The Ice Guard will likely need replacing after three winters.

[philipa_240sx]

WINTER TIRES FOR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES 2008-2009

- Make and Model - Rating (*= poor, ***** = Excellent)- Comments

BF Goodrich Winter Slalom - **Old technology. Attractive price. Price quoted is for a 235/70R16 size tire.

Bridgestone Blizzak DM-Z3 - *****Excellent performance on ice. Deep tread suited to deep snow. The best choice in a Q-rated tire. Expensive.

Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 4x4 - ***Optimized for dry pavement handling. Shallow tread depth. Similar performance to the Dunlop Grandtrek WT M3. A good choice for heavy SUVs that don’t perform well with soft compound ice tires.

Continental Conti4x4 Ice Contact - ***Asymmetric tread pattern. Designed for dry pavement driving, but not optimized for ice or snow. High quality construction. Expensive

Continental Conti4x4 Winter Contact - ***Optimized for dry pavement handling, and not for ice or snow. Tread less grippy than that of the Continental Conti4x4 Ice Contact.

Continental ContiCross Contact Winter - ***Optimized for dry pavement handling.

Cooper Discover M+S - *All-terrain truck tire offered in SUV sizes. Not optimized for ice or snow. Works best with studs (where permitted). Rated low by APA because of the numerous safety recalls related to Cooper tires.

Dean Wintercast SST - *All-terrain tire that conforms to CRA standards. Low price. Rated low by APA because of the numerous safety recalls related to Cooper tires (Cooper makes Dean).

Dunlop Grandtrek SJ5 - ****Deep, grippy tread optimized for snow and ice. Fairly noisy. Versatile, but a bit less grip on ice than the Toyo Open Country G-02 Plus. Durable. Well priced.

Dunlop Grandtrek SJ6 - ****Optimized for snow and ice. Versatile, but a bit less grip on ice than the Toyo Open Country G-02 Plus. Smooth road performance. Durable. Well priced.

Dunlop Grandtrek WT M2 - ***Optimized for dry pavement handling. Despite a shallow tread depth, this tire furnishes better performance in deep snow than the Continental.

Dunlop Grandtrek WT M3 - ***Optimized for dry pavement handling. Despite a shallow tread depth, this tire offers better performance in deep snow that the Continental. Available in limited sizes.

Firestone Winterforce UV - ***SUV version of the Firestone Winterforce. Optimized for deep snow. Smooth road performance. Not too noisy. Well priced.

General Altimax Arctic - ***Traditional snow tire. Similar tread pattern to the old Gislaved NordFrost.

Goodyear Ultra Grip SUV - **SUV version of the Goodyear Eagle Ultra Grip GW3.

Hankook Icebear W300 - *Asymmetric tread design. Optimized for dry-pavement handling. Offered in only three sizes for SUVs.

Hankook Dynapro iPike RW07 - **Traditional snow tire not optimized for ice. Pretty noisy. Offered in smaller sizes.Note from Philipa_240SX: I can attest the RW07 is NOT a very good ice tire.

Hankook Dynapro iPike RW11 - **Traditional snow tire not optimized for ice. Pretty noisy. Offered in large sizes.

Kelly Snow Trakker ST/2 - *Traditional winter tire. Old technology. Limited size availability for SUVs.

Kumho KC 15 - *Asymmetric tread pattern. Designed for dry-pavement use. The similarly priced Hankook directional tires are better choices.

Marshal KC 15 - *Identical to the Kumho KC 15.

Michelin Latitude X-Ice - ***Despite the Q speed rating, this tire offers good performance on dry pavement. It performs better on ice than in deep snow. Shallow tread pattern. High quality construction.

Nokian Hakkapeliitta Sport Utility 5 - ****Available with factory-installed studs which are better than aftermarket ones. Tread pattern optimized for deep snow, a bit less effective on ice. Expensive. Road hazard warranty included in the price.

Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow - ***Asymmetric tread pattern. Optimized for dry-pavement use. Aging design. Fairly expensive. Available in limited sizes.

Toyo Open Country G-02 - *****Very good overall choice, particularly for heavy SUVs and for use under severe conditions. Deep tread pattern. Good performance, but this tire is not as competent on ice as the other top choices in this category. Very durable. High prices for large sizes.

Triangle TR777 - *New model. Modern tread pattern. Low price. Rated low because APA has no track record on the Chinese manufacturer. By far the cheapest tire available, especially in bigger sizes.

Yokohama Geolander I/T GO72 - *****A very good overall choice. Along with the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-Z3 and the Yokohama Ice Guard IG20, one of the the best performers on ice thanks to its soft tread. Compliant ride.

[philipa_240sx]

Just updating everyone on the Hankook Dynapro iPike RW07:

I have decided the ice traction of these tires is not very good, Perhaps if they were studded it might be a different story, but studs are not permitted in the area I live. Tire wear has been OK, but I am noticing a lot of small cracking in the rubber. This is not unusual, but it's more than I expected to see.

I have just placed an order for a new set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta R SUV tires.



http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1194 ... itta+R+SUV

This will be my 4th set of Nokian's and they have never let me down. Performance on slick roads and ice should be a good deal better than the Hankooks.

[philipa_240sx]

First impression of the Hakka R SUV:

These tires are quiet. Far quieter in fact than the previous Hakka RSi's I had on my Altima. The tread is a bit stiffer for less of that 'riding on jello' effect that many winter tires exhibit.

We'll see how it does in snow... it'll be another month at least... I hope!

[soulx]

Can someone recommend me a good winter tire size for my SL AWD? Stock tire/rim size is 255/55/R18. Thanks

[NVHeck]

Thanks to all for helping with all your great suggestions. I just got a preowned 2010 Rogue AWD SL this week. Im so happy with my purchase. Also I live in winterpeg, so i figures i might need a good tire for winter.
After reviewing all the threads in this forum. I had a huge liking for the Nokian Hakkapeliitta tire. (thanks Phillip)
After talking with my dad he suggested the tires which he had just installed; which to my undoubting surprize (Is that an oxymoron) Were the Nokian Hakkapeliitta (He drives the GMC Terrian... Boo, Go Nissan Rogue!) So anyway with his connections in Alberta he can get me 17 in. Tires for aprox. $215 per tire without rims so i can put it on my existing rims. (good way to save a few bucks now but the install price twice a year would suck the money)
He is going to get the price quote for 16 inchers with steel rims in a few days from his guy so I will post back to you people on the exact price and tire size so everyone can continue to make an informed decision as i had.

Ok A week Later and I have Nokians comming from my dad and The tires are 200 CAD each. Add some alloy rims for about 120.( My Dad said these specific alloys are easier to remove ice/snow that steel wheels and less likely to accumulate it) They are 215/r70 16 so I think i have a good deal ( I hope). Also I oppted out of the sensors.
My question is when i go to change back to my all seasons in the spring, How do I reset or turn back on the sensors? Do i have to take it to the dealer or can i do it myself.

[philipa_240sx]

I bought my Nokian Hakka R's (215/70R16) for about $232 ea installed. Taxes are not included, and there is a $5 environmental fee in Ontario.

This will by my 4th set of Nokian's. I've owned the original Hakka 1, 2 sets of Hakka RSi''s, and now the R. I have been pleased with all of them. If you take care of them, they will actually last a long time. Typically I get 4 winters out of them... and the wife is going on winter #5 with hers (admittedly, the rubber is getting a bit hard now).

The RSi's really excelled in snow and moderate amounts of ice. I have yet to test out the R's, but the snow will be here soon. I've found the ABS and VDC are also more effective.

You can't go wrong with Nokian's. The Finns have been making snow tires for years... the Hakka series was introduced in 1936. Nokian is also the only tire mfg in the world with their own permanent winter tire testing facility... Ivalo 200mi north of the arctic circle in Northern Finland.

[Jostudly]

I am still debating on if I should buy multi-fit rims for my Rogue over the more expensive direct fit steel wheels. Has anyone had any vibration issues or problems with balancing from multi fit wheels? I am thinking about getting them from Costco which are $39.95 a wheel as to $69.95 from Nissan. Any input to make my decision easier would be helpful as I plan on buying some this weekend.

[philipa_240sx]

I am surprised you cannot buy decent Nissan specific steel wheels for $50 ea or less.

Anyway, I had a chat with my mechanic and good friend. He has no qualms using multi-fit wheels and so long as they are properly installed:

- No vehicle weight on the tire (ie. jacked up).
- Tighten lug nuts in 2-3 stages using a criss/cross pattern.

There is always a risk of getting the wheels out of balance, but worst case you may just need to loosen the lug nuts & re-torque them to center the wheel.

That's all I can offer as I have never used multi-fit wheels.

[Jostudly]

I am in NB and the best deal I could find for direct fit wheels is $270.00 tax in. I think I will buy the one's at Costco for $40.00 a piece. I will save $90.00.

[philipa_240sx]

Too bad... it's the wrong time of the year to be looking for deals on steel wheels. I got my Altima steelies for $100 used (all 4) via Kijiji... but I started looking in the springtime.

[roguester]

Nokian = best winter tire ever.

+1 I have used Nokians for the past 9 years... If the Hakka 5's were more available last year, I would have went with them instead of the Hankook's.

I just picked up 4 yokohama ice guard IG20 what a great tire very quite and smooth driving. They are rated high like the Michellin ice and Bridgestone. The price was also good 134. cnd $ installed and balanced. I think the msrp is around 200. ea size 215 70R 16
4 steel rims of an 06 Altima picked-up on Craigs list 100.

[Jostudly]

Well I finally got my winter tires mounted on steelies and I noticed the TPMS light is not on. I do not think they took the tpms valves off my other wheels. Is it possible they pulled a fuse to turn the light off?

[philipa_240sx]

Is it possible they pulled a fuse to turn the light off?

There is no fuse you can pull. The TPMS system is integrated into the Body Computer.... this controls many of the functions in the Rogue including keyless entry, vehicle immobilizer, most of the control switches, HVAC controls, etc.

Your best option is to do what I have done for the past 3 winters:

- Cut a 3/8" square of black electrical tape and cover the TPMS warning light. You will not even see it once installed.

- Next spring, re-install your summer tires then remove the tape. The light should disappear within 20 minutes of driving. There are no codes to clear, etc

A few more things:

- The TPMS sensors are not designed to be continually un-installed/installed. They will be damaged in short order this way.
- Not using TPMS sensors will not damage your vehicle or cause any other issues with the VDC, ABS, or AWD systems.
- Using 2 sets of TPMS sensors would require costly reprogramming of the Body Computer every time you change tires. Only the dealer has the tools needed to program the TPMS sensors.

[Pescakl1]

Well I finally got my winter tires mounted on steelies and I noticed the TPMS light is not on. I do not think they took the tpms valves off my other wheels. Is it possible they pulled a fuse to turn the light off?

Sometimes, it takes few days for the light to turn on.

I don't know why, I just know that what happened last winter after I put my winter steelies on.

Don't worry , it will come on, eventually.

[Jostudly]

Well its been 2 days and no light yet. Maybe it will only come on when the air pressure lowers. I noticed the mechanic put 35psi instead of 33psi.

[bobbenedetti]

I just installed Nokian SUV 215/70/16 on steel wheels to replace the 225/60/17 the Rogue came with.
They are surprisingly smooth and quiet on dry pavement.

[philipa_240sx]

I just installed Nokian SUV 215/70/16 on steel wheels to replace the 225/60/17 the Rogue came with.
They are surprisingly smooth and quiet on dry pavement.

You will love those Nokian's when the snow starts to fly. I have only had my Hakka R SUV's for a month or so and I've been happy so far. They are indeed quiet for a winter tire.