What Should I get?

[Dereek]

Hey I am new to this forum.

Im lookin for a 300zx cuz they are badass cars and they gets better gas milage than my old 67' Mustang.

Only problem is I want a 300zx TT, but I'm 16 and my dad is afraid its too much and i'll get tickets left and right. And driving in the rain will be dangerous.

I tell him I drove a 67 mustang in the rain and mud and learned how to control slide with that tank.

I know if I buy an N/A ill be thriving for more power and end up selling it or doing an engine swap. Or hell, buying a TT at 18 and get thrown out. lol

I mean how much safer is a TT automatic. Or in other words, how much more power do you lose?

So which should I get for safty? TT 5-Speed or automatic? or an N/A?

Also which would be better fore beginners drifting.

[epickakashi]

hi welcome to nico, for a starting car i would recomend a 300ZX 2+2 because you can carry more than one person and it looks better in my opionion. if you get a NA 5-speed manual and add some bolt ons its a blast to drive and you can always do the TT conversion later. as for drifting in a 300Z i would not recomend using this car because parts are expensive but it has been done and if you drift on the occasion like me on the track its a fun car to drive.

HORRAY FOR THE 2+2

[nghtrain88]

you and your 2+2's lol.. the TT 5sp has 300 hp stock at the crank and i believe the auto has 280? and yes.. parts are expensive. you will enjoy the handling of an NA so much more than your mustang even if it's not quite as powerful

[evildky]

the 67 stang is no tank, the Z weighs quite a bit more! anyhow, for me, it's manual trans or no trans, auto's just take the joy out of driving, as for power, yeah the auto has a few less ponies, the n/a has 220 hp stock and the tt has 300 so the power difference is quite noticible but I gotta side with your dad and suggest the n/a, you might have learned int he stang but that cumulative learning experience is what 6 months? it's not necesarrily a question of abulity, it's about the maturity to handle the vehicle respoonsibly, and I highly recomend you look into autocross, it'll give you a safe place to lear and get all the stupid stuff out of your system in a safe enviroment

[Dereek]

yeah i know i could handle the car. but i just know everyone will ask me "is it TT?" How fast is it.

One of my objectives to buying a car is to get a car thats faster than my parents too. They have a Saab 9-5 Arc 2.3 Turbo.

Will the N/a beat it with some mods?

[nghtrain88]

from what i understand.. the 2007 saab 9-5's have stock n/a z's beat by about 40 horses and 60 lb-ft of torque, even tho its an inline-4, b/c of the turbo.. it is a sedan though and a few hundred lbs heavier..with mods you can make it more competetive but even stock i think the z would give it a run

[epickakashi]

a NA with some mods is pretty quick, my 2+2 has a apexi intake, headers, and a stillen exaust and its amasingly fast, yes i know i misspelled amazingly, well i think the 2+2 is great because if you want to take more than one freind somewhere you can, plus if you put the big guys in the back it makes for some hillarious laughs. trust me.just remeber the 2+2s are a force to be recond with.

[96SoftTop]

the 67 stang is no tank, the Z weighs quite a bit more!

With all due respect, you're wrong on gross weight:

1967 Mustang Curb Weight = 3400 lbs199X Nissan 300ZX Curb Weight = 3163

Quote »I gotta side with your dad and suggest the n/a, you might have learned int he stang but that cumulative learning experience is what 6 months?[/quote]Not many people get to "learn to drive" in a car that is more powerful than anything they might ever own! (Of course, I still don't know if he had a 6 or an 8!)

Quote » it's not necesarrily a question of abulity, [/quote] no kidding... (again, assuming I know what "abulity" is...Quote » it's about the maturity to handle the vehicle respoonsibly, [/quote] or, perhaps, learning to drive the car that you already have... "respoonsibly"...

Of course, if the Mustang has ANY V-8 that was offered that year, it has considerably more torque than any V-6, so if you learned to drive that, you are actually ahead of the game. Now you'll just have to learn to drive without that extra umph...

And, MOST importantly, tell me about your Mustang before you sell it. I may be interested.

Ken

one more "little" thing. You asked what was "safer", an N/A or TT... Why would one be safer than the other?
Modified by 96SoftTop at 9:34 PM 6/6/2007

[96SoftTop]

and a stillen exaust =

Hey, I really want to know about your Stillen Exhaust! How loud is it, and can you honestly "feel" anything from it. I want this exhaust, but I don't want some loud-ricer-psydo-sports-car. How much does it add to the sound level?

Ken

[Dereek]

I definately bought the mustang with a v-8. straight six would, in my point of view, defeat the complete purpose of a 'Muscle" car. I dont car about the weight. A 40 year old car with no ABS or TCS is gunna slide more then a 10 year old car with ABS and disc brakes. Trying to brake with drum brakes in the rain is scary.

Seeing a 10 year old kid run across the street and fishtailing my car from through the intersection in the rain is not fun. Drifting is fun, but not when you HAVE to do it.

Of course with 300zx TT i will race the occasional civic or whatever at the stoplights. Maybe a bit irresponsible. But who wouldn't do it? But I wouldn't go full out Tokyo Drift in the streets of California. So I think im responsible enough to drive a TT.

[epickakashi]

a modded NA can take care of most of the civics i have seen except for the heavily modified ones, i wouldnt challenge them from a stoplight though because they are a lot lighter and they tend to get off the line quicker. but if its on the highway just drop it from 5th to 3rd (depending on your RPMs) and you should blow right by them in a few seconds, this is with a decently modified 2+2 thought. yes that means im trying to convince you to get a 2+2. 2+2 FOR THE WIN!!

[epickakashi]

the stillen exaust i have came on the car when i bought it, so i dont know what the factory exaust sounds like, but the stillen is a really amazing sounding exaust, the sound is like a deep rumble when you start it and its deep sounding pretty much all the time which sounds really good in my opionin. i dont really know if i can feel anything from it because i dont have a stock exaust to bolt up to feel the stock one but the stillen is a great exaust, if i figure out how to post video ill post a sound clip for you.

i was just kidding above when i said im trying to convince you to get a 2+2, get what ever aplication suits you just remeber its all about the 2+2s

[Watermelonwarrior]

If your in high school it would be a lot more fun to have a 2+2. having a 2 seater in high school sucks.

[Milo (San Antonio)]

NA's (non-turbo or naturally aspirated) are fairly quick after a few mods (air filter, exhaust, pulley and chip) and a few weight reductions. They are fairly cheap, plentiful and semi-easy to maintain. NA's are available in 2 seaters w/tops and hardtops, 2+2 version and convertibles.

The TT's (twin turbos/forced induction) make a considerable amount of more power. These are only available in the US in a 2 seater w/t-top option. These do require more maintenance and some minor degree of basic maintenance skill to keep the vehicle in tip top shape.

Personally, considering your age I would get an NA.

[evildky]

With all due respect, you're wrong on gross weight:

1967 Mustang Curb Weight = 3400 lbs199X Nissan 300ZX Curb Weight = 3163

that curb weight for the stang is for the fastback 390, a 6 banger notchback woulld be less, and honestly I'm supprised at that weight, I have a 68 notch and for a unibody car...well lets just say they have learned a LOT! and the wieght you have for the z is for a slicktop n/a, a tt t-bar model is more like 3500 lbs, so I guess they are pretty close in weight

Not many people get to "learn to drive" in a car that is more powerful than anything they might ever own! (Of course, I still don't know if he had a 6 or an 8!)

the base 2 barrel 289 only had 200hp! I think the new civic has that beat and with a lot less weight......better go look that one up

no kidding... (again, assuming I know what "abulity" is... or, perhaps, learning to drive the car that you already have... "respoonsibly"...

dang, I hope we're not being graded

Of course, if the Mustang has ANY V-8 that was offered that year, it has considerably more torque than any V-6, so if you learned to drive that, you are actually ahead of the game. Now you'll just have to learn to drive without that extra umph...

unless your towing or doing a lot of speed maintenance connected manuvers you won't miss it, it's not in the fun part of the power band

on the saftey thing, some of the early models had no air bags, some had driver only and the later cars had 2

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[adl16v]

buy a NA slicktop its an NA and the lightest of all Z's, so if you do swap it it will be pretty quick