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nismostate
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Driver sidePass Side

I finally got pics of this problem. one wheel literally sits in more than the other. didn't seem to effect my car when i was drifting but it's really weird. I got my frame checked and the guy said it was straight. im thinking it's the lower control arm that's bent. the camber is the same but there's no room for more negative camber on the driver side. sucks that my mud flap ripped off during the autox..


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if it alings good, nothing appears broken, frame checks out, drives/handles normal,who cares.

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240SicknessX
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i see a lil more negitive camber on the passenger side. check you lca, tc rod and anything else that could offset the location of the wheel. if the alignement is good then you shouldnt have a problem, is it that bad? retake the pics with a tape measure or ruler showing how far in the wheel is...................... could your fender be misaligned?

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Project S13
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if you look at the middle of the wheels...they look to be about in the same place, just that the drivers side has almost no camber compared to the passenger's side. Could it be that? Does anyone else see what I mean or am I just out of it?

I guess stock suspensions don't have camber ajustment so maybe something has been dented to push in the wheel.

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I have the same problem, but in the rear. There just a little (maybe 1 degree) more negative camber on the passenger's side than on the driver's side, which makes it look a little more sunken in. If it handles, don't worry about it, but if it feels squirrelly, then have it checked out.

Slamming the car will produce negative camber. Check the space between the top of the tire and the fender on both sides... are they lowered equally? Even a 1/4 inch could cause inconsistant camber, AFIK.

Anyway, if it is your LCA, it'd be a pretty good time to overhaul your whole suspension!
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Project S13 wrote:I guess stock suspensions don't have camber ajustment so maybe something has been dented to push in the wheel.
it's not stock suspension

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I just went out and measured from the highest point on each rim to the fender, and it was just like I thought... there's about 1/4 inch discrepency between the two wheels.

It's certainly not apparent when driving, and the rubber wears evenly for me. If you're in a similar situation, you probably have nothing to worry about.

My suspension setup, if it matters, is KYB AGX shocks and Eibach Prokits all the way around. Also, if it matters... my rear suspension is going bad. Ha ha ha.

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I have ksport coilovers and im pretty sure it's not the camber that's making it do that. I would love to overhaul my suspension but im broke. i'll take my other mud flap off and take more pics. it handles fine but I can't get anymore neg camber out of my driver side. btw, even if the driver side has no negative camber, wouldn't the wheel sit closer to the outside instead of sitting inward like that?

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my bad, wasn't sure about the suspension. For me anyway, I have HE's and all the wheels sit in like your driver's side...I give up, either ask a shop that does alignments if anything is wrong (some places will diagnose for free or a small charge) Maybe you left a spacer on that wheel lol (j/k)

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dont worry about it. it's a VERY weird problem. i've asked a bunch of people and it's stumped all of them. even brought it to a frame shop and they didn't even know. they took measurements and said it was fine.. im still leaning on the lower control arm is bent. i'll get more pics asap.

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Negative camber will give you the impression that the wheel is further in than it is, because you're referencing the part of the wheel closest to the fender, a.k.a. the top. What you've got up there is EXACTLY what negative camber looks like.

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ok, here are more pics. I agree with the negative camber situation but i am positive that's not whats causing it to do that. all my friends are car freaks and they all know their stuff too. we are ALL stumped. btw: if you look at the pictures closely, the pass side seems like it has more neg camber but it still sit farther out than the driver side. the driver side back view is more obvious even though the fender slightly bent.

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froggy maybe something is slightly wrong with the front bumper or one of the fenders

making it look as though there is somthing wrong witht the wheel

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nope. already took that into consideration and took measurements on the fender and bumper . why would the camber plate be like that? I have no more room for negative camber compared to the pass side and both have about the same camber.

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is it me or is your passenger side camber plate weird?

arent those bolts supposed to be parallel? that's how i set mine up

your camber plates are adjusted differently

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one bolt is stripped so it's not even suppose to be there. dude that aligned my car was a complete moron and messed it up. what does it matter if it's not parallel. all it does is keep the strut from moving. it hasn't moved ever since i got it aligned a couple months ago and i've drifted the car in this condition. all i know is that my driver side has no room for negative camber. it's obvious in the picture. WTF?


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