What's the spark plug secret on a 96 path?

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I took the 3 on the left hand side facing my engine out in 15 min, then I spent an house on the other 3 and don't think I even made contact. Do you need a special socket to get down in there? I'm using a short and long extension together and still seems like I am not reaching the plugs. Also I don't even see how you would get a socket on the plug at the very back of the engine, do you need to remove anything else to get to it?


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I just attempted the same task this evening <says the man with red/scratched hands>

The pass side ones are obvious/easy. The front two on the driver side are pretty easy....I used two long extensions....the plugs angle back towards the firewall (opposite of the ones on the pass side). If you get up on the engine (knees on support in front of the rad) with a light you can actually see them.

As to the back one...damned if I know. I could barely get the socket on it with one long extension but had no prayer of getting it loose. <insert expletives here>

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nissan provides all the tools you need for a spark plug change. one tool os for the 5 plugs and then theres a special tool dedicated to the #6 plug in back of the engine.

the tools are under your rear seat, along with the tire changing stuff. in a leather pouch. unless somebody removed it. you guys are hilarious!

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Glad to amuse you :-)

In the back of one of mine I did find the two tools you speak of....I don't know how "special" they are....but I guess they are the perfect length so hopefully that will do the trick for the rear one <fingers crossed>

I give Nissan 1 demerit for requiring a special tool to change spark plugs.

I give Nissan 1 gold star for providing the special tool :-)

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gonna check and see if it's there, doubting it though. I bought a $13 swivel headed spark plug remover last night, hoping it will work if they are not there.

Meh, no tools.

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[QUOTE=fueler]nissan provides all the tools you need for a spark plug change. one tool os for the 5 plugs and then theres a special tool dedicated to the #6 plug in back of the engine.

the tools are under your rear seat, along with the tire changing stuff. in a leather pouch. unless somebody removed it.[QUOTE]We did this on the trail after my R50 had been sank. Removed all six spark pluggs, blew out all of the water & crap in the cylinders & then put all six back in in like 15-20 minutes. Its really not that hard with the little tool Nissan provides.

Look theres Brent doing it now:

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fraustypath wrote:gonna check and see if it's there, doubting it though. I bought a $13 swivel headed spark plug remover last night, hoping it will work if they are not there.

Meh, no tools.
i do remember several 96 owners reporting a lack of the nissan tools.... maybe they didnt put them in til 97? anyways, the nissan tool is perfect for the job, i wouldn't even attempt it without it

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fukinitupagain wrote:Look theres Brent doing it now:


hahaha he looks like a german tourist in those teva sandals!

i dont think you would have hydrolocked if you had a short ram intake like jim wolf. the stock intake opening is basically hidden in the front bumper, BELOW the headlight!

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I bet it is perfect, without it is is no fun at all. I have spent 3hrs now trying to get something on the bastards, taking the 12 spark plug puller back now and calling precision tune, hoping they can just pull the other 3 out.

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Stuck the old ones back in and called it quits. Got to buy new plug wires, rear one pulled loose, has about an inch of metal hanging out the connector, there's no way that's a good sign, not to mention when I tried to drive it it drove like crap.

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fueler wrote:

hahaha he looks like a german tourist in those teva sandals!

i dont think you would have hydrolocked if you had a short ram intake like jim wolf. the stock intake opening is basically hidden in the front bumper, BELOW the headlight!
I didn't hydro-lock it that day. My engine just sh*t-the-bed like 2 weeks later. Hell we fixed there on the trail & I spent the rest of the day wheelin'. I'm just gonna build a half hidden snorkel in the next month or so anyhow. Even the jim wolf pop charger would've gotten soaked. There was so much water that shot up into the engine compartemtn that the water was coming out under the hood over the lower part of the windsheild.Look at where you can usually see the windsheild wipers...

And Brent wears those "interesting" sandals so that he can walk through all of the mud & water & not have to worry about anything.

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[QUOTE=fueler]

hahaha he looks like a german tourist in those teva sandals!

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Nah he's missing the socks...

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Yeah, but either way, that's gotta be rough on the knees! That's what I like about full size trucks..my little a** can sit on the wheel well and wrench on the engine instead of giving myself nerve damage...dude, fukinitupagain, I never noticed the water coming from the rear of the hood...that's insane. How fast were you going? Obviously, too fast, but....I'm thinking about just biting the bullet and going the PVC route for my snorkel. Was gonna do fiberglass, but I'm not in the mood to build molds right now, nor will I be for a while...

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SixGuns wrote:...dude, fukinitupagain, I never noticed the water coming from the rear of the hood...that's insane. How fast were you going? Obviously, too fast, but....
30 maybe 35 mph?...

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That is one wild pic! Cracks me up. Gotta show my kids...

Your airfilter in that shot with Brent in the engine bay is a bit toasted. Get a K&N and you don't have to worry about it, just clean it off and you're ready to go! They are about $45.

I looked an my 2000 Qx4 doens't have the tools you are referring to. Can't wait to change my plugs

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i want those sandals

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jsm02cpa wrote:I looked an my 2000 Qx4 doens't have the tools you are referring to. Can't wait to change my plugs


are you sure? they can be easily mistaken for tire change tools. Its just a long pipe with some holes on one end and the other end is the spark plug tool with a rubber gasket in it. In fact, the lever that helps turn the spark plug tools is the same lever that turns the long rod to drop the spare. They are in the leather pouch. My 99.5 QX4 is esentially a 2000 and has all this stuff. I cant imagine why anybody would remove this???

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jsm02cpa wrote:That is one wild pic! Cracks me up. Gotta show my kids...

Your airfilter in that shot with Brent in the engine bay is a bit toasted. Get a K&N and you don't have to worry about it, just clean it off and you're ready to go! They are about $45.

I looked an my 2000 Qx4 doens't have the tools you are referring to. Can't wait to change my plugs
That wasn't a paper filter, that was a K&N . But I have another one in now.

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Oh Ya, I see the sticker on the air filter cover. My K&N looks different, first, it's all in one piece!! How did it get so mangled, that shouldn't have happened from the water, right?

Anyway, you're having fun with the beast, that's what it's all about. I'm glad to hear that these vehicles are holding up, you guys are giving them a workout. Gives me the itch to go offroadin' somewhere this spring.

WE get snow, so doing doughnuts and plowing through banks is no big deal... throwing lots of dirt around is a different form of fun.

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jsm02cpa wrote:Oh Ya, I see the sticker on the air filter cover. My K&N looks different, first, it's all in one piece!! How did it get so mangled, that shouldn't have happened from the water, right?
The water shot up through the air intake with so much force that it literally blew a whole through the air filter (it aslo knocked off 2 of the 4 metal pieces that hold the lid of the stock air box). But that K&N was from like 2001 or 2002 & when I bought a new one back in Sept, when all of that fun happened, it looked a bit different. Like this new one looks like a tank!

As far as using the Mule, thats it's name & no I don't no if its a boy or girl (I respect it's privacy), I plan on making it strickly a trail rig in another 2 or so years (when I finally graduate from college & buy something else).

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Fueler, can you or someone with a digital camera take a pic of the tool that you are saying is for the spark plugs?

What is in the case in my car is the lug wrench tool, and what looks like a cap or something for the hydraulic jack. Then there is also the long rod that drops the spare tire. I do have that. I doubt the guy before me ever used the spark plug wrench, he had everything done for him at a dealership, pretty much (cha-ching...).

Thanks guys. I'm going to check back through records and see if he had them changed, shouldn't they get about 100k (miles- for our metric brethren) before needing replaced ?

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jsm02cpa wrote:Fueler, can you or someone with a digital camera take a pic of the tool that you are saying is for the spark plugs?

What is in the case in my car is the lug wrench tool, and what looks like a cap or something for the hydraulic jack. Then there is also the long rod that drops the spare tire. I do have that. I doubt the guy before me ever used the spark plug wrench, he had everything done for him at a dealership, pretty much (cha-ching...).
Thats the tool. It'll work on your spark plugs as well

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The rod for the spare tire? You're sh*tting me.

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I sh*t you not my friend.

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no no no the rod for the spare is like three feet long. thats not the tool. you should have two pipes in there, diameter is that of a spark plug. they are around a foot long. ill take a digital pic sometime tonight if i have the time.

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Mine is one in the same, I just have an extension for the #6 spark plug.

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...Didn't think so...I tried imagining it and even with my f*cked up mind, I couldn't make that huge rod fit under the hood, much less contort into a cylinder head...The only tools under my rear seat are the jack, the spare tire rod and the lug nut wrench...but I looked at the positions of the coils today while I was cleaning up the engine bay (I don't know why I did it, either...I chock it up to boredom)...Yeah, some stuff has to be moved out of the way, but...really, if I can swap out the plugs on a Focus (which has to be done from the bottom and the rear of the engine, btw, 'cause the engine is angled toward the cab....stupid Ford..just another attempt to make you take it to the dealership.) this should be no problem...add to that I have pretty much a professional shop in my garage, so I'm confident I can get it done. I just need a job so I can afford to buy the new plugs. LOL

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fukinitupagain wrote:Mine is one in the same, I just have an extension for the #6 spark plug.
thats bizarre! Mine has one tool for plugs 1-5 and a separate tool for plug 6.

dont try plug 6 without it lol. i cant imagine using extensions and swivels. how the hell would you put the plug back?!? the nissan tool fits the firewall perfectly and theres even a notch in the firewall to guide you, plug 6 takes me 2 minutes to R&R

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OK, so I'm hearing two diff things. Would you guys that think you have the correct spark plug took take a pic of what you got and post it so I don't try working on something that will get me pissed off and have to beat my car!

Thanks for the info.

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Ok I think I see what's going on here...your guys' sh*t is old and retarded is what it is. Fueler's talking about gaps in the firewall for this crazy tool you guys have, and between the rear plugs on both banks, I have a solid 6 inches to the firewall. Mine's an '04...did Nissan get wise and move the engine mounts forward a tad as to not cause mass suicides? Man, I swear, I can remove the air intake tube and move a couple brackets and bam, coil's right there. Looks simple as hell. I think I found why I don't have a tool.


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