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I was looking through cardomain and found a guy that has a S14 who did the RD25DETT swap. Something I was thinking of doing when I get my S14. As I read through his comments I see these SR20 fanboys giving him crap about not doing the SR20 swap. I don't understand why they are giving him sh*t because won't you get more horsepower out of the Skyline engine than the Japan Silvia engine? If the answer is yes, why do people give other people crap for not following the trend and being different. I mean I'm looking for more horsepower and torque thing that going to be better for you in the long. Something that going to dust a Mustang GT or other cars. Would you do the same.


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i think the ? is whether they really think he's stupid for doing it..or if they're just jealous because thats what they wish they could have done...

try to make themselves feel better...

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there is no right answer. you certainly will not get a right answer out of this thread. too many people have differing opinions on the engines.

that being said, both engines have strong points. you can easily sap tons of power out of both engines, but at what cost? the rb will give you better driveability at high hp levels than the sr will. the rb swap will cost more, but will probably be cheaper to mod.

why do people give other people crap? because we're all ***holes. most people present thier personal opinion as a truth, but thats just how people are. i wouldnt let anyones opinion influence yours, take a look at both engines, prices, parts, reliability etc. and make a decision for yourself.

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Thanks for posting. I guess you can say this thread is kinda of subjective and a matter of personal preference. I figure the mod on the rb would be cheaper. I have a friend who drop an LS1 into his 300zx and a lot people think he's a dumbass for doing it. Which that sucker can flat out fly. I don't know I might go and try fit the RB26 in.

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It's common for people to sincerely beleive that whatever is more popular is better. Period. If you were able to effectively investigate it, I'd be willing to bet that you'd find that most people who made that comment don't even know the difference between an SR20 or an RB25, other than that one can be found in the Skyline and the other in the Silvia. They just know it's "cool" to do the SR20 swap. And the RB25 is NOT an SR20, and, therefore, cannot be "cool." Sounds stupid, but that is a common mindset.

On a slightly different note, I personally don't get the whole SR20 fad anyhow...the KA's a great engine, and it makes something most people overlook: torque. I'd rather have a KA than an SR any day.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:I'd rather have a KA than an SR any day.


Check out our RB forum in the 240 section, TONS of info.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:It's common for people to sincerely beleive that whatever is more popular is better. Period. If you were able to effectively investigate it, I'd be willing to bet that you'd find that most people who made that comment don't even know the difference between an SR20 or an RB25, other than that one can be found in the Skyline and the other in the Silvia. They just know it's "cool" to do the SR20 swap. And the RB25 is NOT an SR20, and, therefore, cannot be "cool." Sounds stupid, but that is a common mindset.

On a slightly different note, I personally don't get the whole SR20 fad anyhow...the KA's a great engine, and it makes something most people overlook: torque. I'd rather have a KA than an SR any day.
Exactly.. Those kinds of people don't know crap about engines for one and they don't know what the RB brings to the table. I mean if I did the RB swap and some punk kid walked up to me. Then question me on why I didn't do the SR20 swap. I would look at him crazy and tell'em to go get a 240sx with SR20 swap and will race for pink slips. Let'em learn the hard way.

I hate when people sit there and question you on what's in to do and what's not. Don't get me wrong the SR20 is a good enigne, but just don't rub it off on other people and question why they didn't do that swap. When I look at a car, I look at it's full potential what I can do with the stock motor or what I can swap it out with for higher hp. I'm not going to jump in and do the swap with RB when I get my 240SX. I'ma drive it for while before doing stuff. Who knows I probably just beef up the KA.

LMAO!! The cardomain site I was looking at who did the RB25 swap is register to these forums. Small world... It was dekand cardomain site where those people were making the SR20 comments off of.
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I6 vs I4? :P

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weight and balance come into play, but most people are just sr bishez. if they have an intelligent reason for not liking the RB, they will actually give it instead of whining.

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Megadeth wrote:I was looking through cardomain and found a guy that has a S14 who did the RD25DETT swap. Something I was thinking of doing when I get my S14. As I read through his comments I see these SR20 fanboys giving him crap about not doing the SR20 swap. I don't understand why they are giving him sh*t because won't you get more horsepower out of the Skyline engine than the Japan Silvia engine? If the answer is yes, why do people give other people crap for not following the trend and being different. I mean I'm looking for more horsepower and torque thing that going to be better for you in the long. Something that going to dust a Mustang GT or other cars. Would you do the same.
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You bring up a valid point concerning the engine swap debate; "Why do people give other people crap for not following the trend". My opinion on this matter is simply, if you want to do it, then do it, but don't try to sit here and glorify your decision by comparing it with biased information.

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hatebobbarker wrote:weight and balance come into play, but most people are just sr bishez. if they have an intelligent reason for not liking the RB, they will actually give it instead of whining.
Wow, it's nice to know you think so highly of people with SR engines. We all know they are mindless tools that are just bandwagon jumping so everyone thinks they are cool.



I think it's equally assine to talk trash about a particular group based on a sub-catagory of it's capita.

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nissanforlife wrote:i think the ? is whether they really think he's stupid for doing it..or if they're just jealous because thats what they wish they could have done...

try to make themselves feel better...
The last statement you made is the exact reason behind 90% of the arguements concerning this.

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xekushnr wrote:there is no right answer. you certainly will not get a right answer out of this thread. too many people have differing opinions on the engines.
100% Correct.
xekushnr wrote:that being said, both engines have strong points. you can easily sap tons of power out of both engines, but at what cost? the rb will give you better driveability at high hp levels than the sr will. the rb swap will cost more, but will probably be cheaper to mod.
I applaud your non-partisanship but logic dictates the RB25 will be a more costly venture. However cost is another subjective and highly opinionated arguement. My opinion on the matter can be found above.
xekushnr wrote:why do people give other people crap? because we're all ***holes. most people present thier personal opinion as a truth, but thats just how people are. i wouldnt let anyones opinion influence yours, take a look at both engines, prices, parts, reliability etc. and make a decision for yourself.
Amen.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:On a slightly different note, I personally don't get the whole SR20 fad anyhow...the KA's a great engine, and it makes something most people overlook: torque. I'd rather have a KA than an SR any day.
I prefer the SR over the KA. This is based solely on my person experience with driving both particular engines in numerous shapes and forms.

I do not find the SR engine to lack torque compared to the KA simply because within my particular opinion, of what can be considered usable power, there is a minute difference between the two engines.

Perhaps this can give you some insight as to why some of us choose the SR engine.

However I do tend to differ from most people in that I don't subject myself to one particular group or decision. Which seems to be common place.

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Nismo_Freak wrote:
Wow, it's nice to know you think so highly of people with SR engines. We all know they are mindless tools that are just bandwagon jumping so everyone thinks they are cool.



I think it's equally assine to talk trash about a particular group based on a sub-catagory of it's capita.
my 240 has an SR actually, but if i did it all over again id put an rb in. noticed i didnt say all people with SRs are idiots, im referring to the "OMG I HAVETO HAVE AN SR20 WITH HKS EVERYTHING JUST LIKE NOB TANIGUCHI!!!!1111 THEN ILL BE THE GREATEST DRIFTER EVAR"

like this guy that tried to recruit me for his mad tyte drift squad:http://www.myspace.com/index.c...21526

makes you loose faith in the world doesnt it.

A good friend has an SR with my favourite reason ive ever heard he wanted his engine to match the chassis as much as possible, 95 s14 motor in his 95 s14, weird but thats his thing.

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yes i love euro/altezza taillights and neon glow steering wheels its comparable to kouki taillights and jdm steering wheels =) you guys arent changingmy mind both have its strong points and im an idiot okay thanks.

euro lights are 200 vs koukis 400neon steering wheelsare about 50 bucks some jdm steering wheels are 200-300

i can get more hp for the buck if u buy the cheaply made parts lol

yeah im not really that interested in torque either... its pretty much all about hp to me if not i wouldve just got some chevy v8.

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what is your point exactly?

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hatebobbarker wrote:my 240 has an SR actually, but if i did it all over again id put an rb in. noticed i didnt say all people with SRs are idiots, im referring to the "OMG I HAVETO HAVE AN SR20 WITH HKS EVERYTHING JUST LIKE NOB TANIGUCHI!!!!1111 THEN ILL BE THE GREATEST DRIFTER EVAR"

like this guy that tried to recruit me for his mad tyte drift squad:http://www.myspace.com/index.c...21526

makes you loose faith in the world doesnt it.

A good friend has an SR with my favourite reason ive ever heard he wanted his engine to match the chassis as much as possible, 95 s14 motor in his 95 s14, weird but thats his thing.
Holy Cow! It's like someone puked HTML all over my screen! Crappy music, and someone needs to learn to type legibly. At least some of the comments make me laugh.

As for engines, when I have money to do anything with my car, then I will decide which to go with. I remember talking to someone with an SR, and I said I was thinking of going KA-T. He mentioned something about the KA only being able to take about 6lb of boost. That doesn't sound right to me.

If the KA is in good shape when I am ready, I will probably go KA-T. If not I will probably go SR, but I can't be sure.

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if you plan on tracking it, i'd go sr, ive seen several KA-Ts overheat at the track and one at d1.

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Actually, for Autocross SOLO2, the other option is for me to run all-motor KA. The reason for that is to help keep me out of the Street Modified class. Both SR and KA-T would put me there.

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Megadeth wrote: As I read through his comments I see these SR20 fanboys giving him crap about not doing the SR20 swap. I don't understand why they are giving him sh*t .
Some idiotic assine comment.

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Bongpain wrote:Blah blah blah blah blah

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what just happened there?

also...
Juujai wrote:i can get more hp for the buck if u buy the cheaply made parts lol
so you can go get parts that do absolutely nothing for the car with the money you couldve used on better parts?

also why are you worried about how much the tails cost? just dont get them in the first place...

wow...what did your post have to do with the thread anyway?

im going ka-t mostly because i want to be able to find a good engine to drop in then slowly spend money to build it and turbo it, that way i will actually be able to start sooner

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hmmm its always funny to see old threads revive all of a sudden.....

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indeed it is, there was a rage of thread ressurections in gen chat the other day for no reason

and having not read that post the first time i went through this thread, im glad i did now!


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