What Next? Will Obama Be Descendant of Jesus?

[stebo0728]

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuz ... icted-one/

WARNING: HUFFPO ARTICLE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/3 ... ions-2012.

This is just sickening. When will black americans tire of being manipulated and used to keep a marxist in office?

[bigbadberry3]

You don't give black Americans any credit. It sounds like you are implying black Americans only voted for Obama for superficial reasons.

[stebo0728]

I am implying that, in a generalized way. Were there free thinking black americans that voted for other reasons? Sure. The same could be said, generally, for republican voters. Not racial reasons, but anti-abortion, anti-gay agendas are the leading republican attractant. If my implication wasnt true, give me a reason why huffpo would care that Obama supposedly descended from a slave, oh but not just a slave, the FIRST slave? Sounds like more black diafication to me.

EDIT - And let me also say, as for 2008, I completely understood the black vote. I understood what it meant, and why black people just had to vote for Obama, for one main superficial reason. It was a historical moment, and somehow the media found a way to actually polish a turd. What I dont understand is how that same dynamic can survive today. We've done the black president thing, his policies dont work, he's proved it. Are black americans going to be played again?

[bigbadberry3]

I am implying that, in a generalized way.

So by your logic, white Americans should vote for Romney because he is white.

[telcoman]

When will black americans tire of being manipulated and used to keep a marxist in office?

Can you prove this?

Telcoman

[bigbadberry3]

The same could be said, generally, for republican voters. Not racial reasons, but anti-abortion, anti-gay agendas are the leading republican attractant.

I though anti taxation and anti health care would of been higher on the agenda.

[stebo0728]

So by your logic, white Americans should vote for Romney because he is white.

Well, in this particular race, sure there are whites who will vote for that reason, or rather, they wont vote for Obama because he is black.

[stebo0728]

When will black americans tire of being manipulated and used to keep a marxist in office?

Can you prove this?

Telcoman

Tell me again how I prove a question?

[bigbadberry3]

So by your logic, white Americans should vote for Romney because he is white.

Well, in this particular race, sure there are whites who will vote for that reason, or rather, they wont vote for Obama because he is black.

Sounds about right for America

[stebo0728]

The same could be said, generally, for republican voters. Not racial reasons, but anti-abortion, anti-gay agendas are the leading republican attractant.

I though anti taxation and anti health care would of been higher on the agenda.

Those are both asinine positions. No one is anti taxation, well maybe some few idiots, but generally no. Anti-OVERtaxation maybe. No one is anti-healthcare either. Again you're playing with symantics to make a group look bad. Just like the "pro life" "pro choice" labels.

Sure, for conservatives as a group, taxation and healthcare were issues near the top. But among whites as a group, at least in the bible-belt, their assumed moral superiority always takes precedent.

[bigbadberry3]

Those are both asinine positions. No one is anti taxation, well maybe some few idiots, but generally no. Anti-OVERtaxation maybe.....

You are aware of the Norquist pledge ?

[stebo0728]

Even the Norquist Pledge (Taxpayer Protection Pledge) isnt anti-taxation. Sure it takes a hard stance on increasing tax, but it doesnt seek to eliminate tax.

[bigbadberry3]

Even the Norquist Pledge (Taxpayer Protection Pledge) isnt anti-taxation. Sure it takes a hard stance on increasing tax, but it doesnt seek to eliminate tax.

First, who is Norquist and what power does he hold? Why must a high power official swear loyalty to him (it is a him)?

Second, it all but seeks to eliminate taxes. If the average cost of living goes up per year, taxes need to scale upwards as well. If taxes scale upwards they will eventually completely insignificant in size.

[stebo0728]

The Taxpayer Protection Pledge is no different than the New Deal, the Contract With America. Im not saying I necessarily agree with it, but its not a new concept. No one has to be beholden to it, they chose to. Perhaps there was some interparty pressure, and that I dont agree with, but hell, I dont agree with parties anyway, they've diluted our system.

[ImStricken06]

It sounds like you are implying black Americans only voted for Obama for superficial reasons.

you have GOT to be kidding. EVEN TONS OF WHITES ONLY CARED ABOUT HIS SKIN COLOR!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57t4u4c4H98[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8[/youtube]

(curses in video)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX-c07uefc[/youtube]

[hannibal]

Dont blame the White House or the Huffington Post for that story. Thats something Ancestry.com came up with. Wonder if they can trace his heritage prior to John Punch (somehow I doubt thats the name his parents gave him).

Obama wasn't even born in America, so who cares if his great great great grandfather was. /sarcasm

[szh]

Obama wasn't even born in America, so who cares if his great great great grandfather was. /sarcasm

Um ... are you seriously saying that Hawaii was not part of the USA when President Obama was born there?

EDIT: never mind ... I overlooked the /sarcasm.

Z

[stebo0728]

My problem is not the origination of the story, but the use of the story. Watch this dribble from the mouths of black leaders in the coming months. Obama's losing the black vote, his media has to try and get it back for him. Like I said in another post, in 2008, the media actually found a way to polish a turd. Now the polish has worn off and the smell is permeating the air, will they be able to polish it once more?

[bigbadberry3]

My problem is not the origination of the story, but the use of the story. Watch this dribble from the mouths of black leaders in the coming months. Obama's losing the black vote, his media has to try and get it back for him. Like I said in another post, in 2008, the media actually found a way to polish a turd. Now the polish has worn off and the smell is permeating the air, will they be able to polish it once more?

Mythbusters did it :P

I do actually see some bright spots that Obama could run on but that will be for another thread

[hannibal]

Obama wasn't even born in America, so who cares if his great great great grandfather was. /sarcasm

Um ... are you seriously saying that Hawaii was not part of the USA when President Obama was born there?

EDIT: never mind ... I overlooked the /sarcasm.

Z

Lets keep it going. I doubted he was a natural born citizen. But somehow, he got his name on the ballot 3.5 years ago.

But seriously, just like i didnt need to see obama's birth certificate to believe he was born here, I dont need to see Mitt's tax returns or bank statements to know he's rich. But i'm gullible. I believe in Dr. King's dream without counting the sheep.

[stebo0728]

Trust me when I tell you. Hillary Clinton is one of the most vicious of all politicians of our day. If there had been even one credible strand to the Obama birth certificate story, she'd have broken that news LOOOONG before any birther ever even considered to wonder about it. But ok great, Obama was born in America, and constitutionally, that means he can be president. But does he really know anything about what it means to BE an American? Born in Hawaii, raised there a few years. Hawaii isn't exactly the urban america that the 99% keep b*tchin' about. Then educated in schools abroad, until his college years, where upon his triumphant return, his immediate course of action is to bunk up and learn from any marxist communist he could find. He supposedly wrote for Harvard Law Review....ever seen any of his reviews? He got squeezed into teaching a summary class on the Constitution, and the media things that makes him a Constitutional expert? He bullies his opponent off the ballot for Senate, and then somehow snags a spot in the Democratic presidential nomination lineup, after barely even getting his Senate office desk arranged?

So do the birthers have any credibility? No, not in any reality, but they dont need to. Theres plenty else that SHOULD have been vetted about this man even before being elected Senator. My ex-inlaws are from IL, and they were actually visiting us during the Obama senate election, and can remember being warned then by them just how dangerous this man was. He's so underqualified for this position, he lacks any symbolence of leadership, so much so that even when his party had complete control, he couldn't get the nervous nancies in congress to even pass a freaking budget. Hell we've not passed a budget now since the Ipad was unveiled, and we're on version what 3 now? The left love to call the Republicans "the party of opposition", and yes they've been rather oppositional, but this man couldn't even lead his own majorities into any action, besides the shining turd that is the "Affordable Healthcare Act", which in all likely hood will cause healthcare to be even less affordable as the dust settles.

You have a man who can't even freaking give a candid speech without marxist drivel trickling out of his mouth, all this "you have a business, you didnt build that" nonesense. You want to know the mans true intentions, take him off prompter and just watch as his shoots from the hip. This nation has forsaken the free market, has forsaken INDIVIDUAL liberty, for far too long.

This man's spiritual mentor calls for God to condemn this nation, and claims that 911 was our "chickens coming home to roost". This man built his political career in the home of an UNrepentant terrorlst, a man who would "do it all over again, and hopefully kill more in the process". And this is really a man that America wants in its highest office? Really? Nevermind the black vote, yes 96% of the black vote was for Obama, and yes I believe you'd find, in their hearts, that the sole reason was the color of his skin, with his political ties being a distant second. But you know what, that doesn't really matter, the black vote is only roughly 13% of the base vote. Regardless of how or why the black vote was cast, it wasn't the deciding factor. The media managed to polish a turd, and convince the independents that it was gold. Now the question is, have the independents caught the wiff yet? This man that called a sitting president "unpatriotic" for x amount of debt, and then runs up 2x debt, twice as fast, in his own first term? This man who when questioned about the inverse relationship between tax rates and revenue, said "yes thats true, but thats not what this is about, its about fairness". So even though a tax hike will likely result in lower revenues, its ok because thats whats fair? Who the hell is he to say whats fair? This man who was caught DURING HIS CAMPAIGN pledging to "spread the wealth". Well we heard it, and thats what we got.....only he didn't tell you that you can't spread wealth without equally spreading poverty eh? Jobless rates are staggering, and the stock market is a roller coaster, all because business people are too afraid to make any solid choices, not knowing what this man will try next. Stimulus plans that just throw money at problems? This man who really things America will be saved if we just build more "roads and bridges"? Or if we just inflate our tires and get regular oil changes, the world will improve around us? This man who pledged to put the coal industry out of business, with choking regulation. This man who believes that America is great because of out entitlements, or to extrapilate that, because of our government? He's like a batter at the plate, who just keeps missing every pitch, he's struck out over 10 times already, but the umpire (the beholden media) is just too afraid to call him out. The choice is clear, Mitt has REAL experience, both governmental and business. He was not my first choice, but he has a far greater ability to straighten out this mess than someone who will "have more wiggle room after the election". The fact that its even a question, honestly, is a joke.

IF by chance Obummer makes it back, I pray that the party of opposition can complete its takeover of the senate, and retain Congress. Only then might we be able to keep the levies from breaking.

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[ImStricken06]

Trust me when I tell you. Hillary Clinton is one of the most vicious of all politicians of our day. If there had been even one credible strand to the Obama birth certificate story, she'd have broken that news LOOOONG before any birther ever even considered to wonder about it. But ok great, Obama was born in America, and constitutionally, that means he can be president. But does he really know anything about what it means to BE an American? Born in Hawaii, raised there a few years. Hawaii isn't exactly the urban america that the 99% keep b*tchin' about. Then educated in schools abroad, until his college years, where upon his triumphant return, his immediate course of action is to bunk up and learn from any marxist communist he could find. He supposedly wrote for Harvard Law Review....ever seen any of his reviews? He got squeezed into teaching a summary class on the Constitution, and the media things that makes him a Constitutional expert? He bullies his opponent off the ballot for Senate, and then somehow snags a spot in the Democratic presidential nomination lineup, after barely even getting his Senate office desk arranged?

So do the birthers have any credibility? No, not in any reality, but they dont need to. Theres plenty else that SHOULD have been vetted about this man even before being elected Senator. My ex-inlaws are from IL, and they were actually visiting us during the Obama senate election, and can remember being warned then by them just how dangerous this man was. He's so underqualified for this position, he lacks any symbolence of leadership, so much so that even when his party had complete control, he couldn't get the nervous nancies in congress to even pass a freaking budget. Hell we've not passed a budget now since the Ipad was unveiled, and we're on version what 3 now? The left love to call the Republicans "the party of opposition", and yes they've been rather oppositional, but this man couldn't even lead his own majorities into any action, besides the shining turd that is the "Affordable Healthcare Act", which in all likely hood will cause healthcare to be even less affordable as the dust settles.

You have a man who can't even freaking give a candid speech without marxist drivel trickling out of his mouth, all this "you have a business, you didnt build that" nonesense. You want to know the mans true intentions, take him off prompter and just watch as his shoots from the hip. This nation has forsaken the free market, has forsaken INDIVIDUAL liberty, for far too long.

This man's spiritual mentor calls for God to condemn this nation, and claims that 911 was our "chickens coming home to roost". This man built his political career in the home of an UNrepentant terrorlst, a man who would "do it all over again, and hopefully kill more in the process". And this is really a man that America wants in its highest office? Really? Nevermind the black vote, yes 96% of the black vote was for Obama, and yes I believe you'd find, in their hearts, that the sole reason was the color of his skin, with his political ties being a distant second. But you know what, that doesn't really matter, the black vote is only roughly 13% of the base vote. Regardless of how or why the black vote was cast, it wasn't the deciding factor. The media managed to polish a turd, and convince the independents that it was gold. Now the question is, have the independents caught the wiff yet? This man that called a sitting president "unpatriotic" for x amount of debt, and then runs up 2x debt, twice as fast, in his own first term? This man who when questioned about the inverse relationship between tax rates and revenue, said "yes thats true, but thats not what this is about, its about fairness". So even though a tax hike will likely result in lower revenues, its ok because thats whats fair? Who the hell is he to say whats fair? This man who was caught DURING HIS CAMPAIGN pledging to "spread the wealth". Well we heard it, and thats what we got.....only he didn't tell you that you can't spread wealth without equally spreading poverty eh? Jobless rates are staggering, and the stock market is a roller coaster, all because business people are too afraid to make any solid choices, not knowing what this man will try next. Stimulus plans that just throw money at problems? This man who really things America will be saved if we just build more "roads and bridges"? Or if we just inflate our tires and get regular oil changes, the world will improve around us? This man who pledged to put the coal industry out of business, with choking regulation. This man who believes that America is great because of out entitlements, or to extrapilate that, because of our government? He's like a batter at the plate, who just keeps missing every pitch, he's struck out over 10 times already, but the umpire (the beholden media) is just too afraid to call him out. The choice is clear, Mitt has REAL experience, both governmental and business. He was not my first choice, but he has a far greater ability to straighten out this mess than someone who will "have more wiggle room after the election". The fact that its even a question, honestly, is a joke.

IF by chance Obummer makes it back, I pray that the party of opposition can complete its takeover of the senate, and retain Congress. Only then might we be able to keep the levies from breaking.

[/Rant]

- i couldnt agree more. very-very well said!

[bigbadberry3]

Trust me when I tell you. Hillary Clinton is one of the most vicious of all politicians of our day. If there had been even one credible strand to the Obama birth certificate story, she'd have broken that news LOOOONG before any birther ever even considered to wonder about it. But ok great, Obama was born in America, and constitutionally, that means he can be president. But does he really know anything about what it means to BE an American? Born in Hawaii, raised there a few years. Hawaii isn't exactly the urban america that the 99% keep b*tchin' about. Then educated in schools abroad, until his college years, where upon his triumphant return, his immediate course of action is to bunk up and learn from any marxist communist he could find. He supposedly wrote for Harvard Law Review....ever seen any of his reviews? He got squeezed into teaching a summary class on the Constitution, and the media things that makes him a Constitutional expert? He bullies his opponent off the ballot for Senate, and then somehow snags a spot in the Democratic presidential nomination lineup, after barely even getting his Senate office desk arranged?

So do the birthers have any credibility? No, not in any reality, but they dont need to. Theres plenty else that SHOULD have been vetted about this man even before being elected Senator. My ex-inlaws are from IL, and they were actually visiting us during the Obama senate election, and can remember being warned then by them just how dangerous this man was. He's so underqualified for this position, he lacks any symbolence of leadership, so much so that even when his party had complete control, he couldn't get the nervous nancies in congress to even pass a freaking budget. Hell we've not passed a budget now since the Ipad was unveiled, and we're on version what 3 now? The left love to call the Republicans "the party of opposition", and yes they've been rather oppositional, but this man couldn't even lead his own majorities into any action, besides the shining turd that is the "Affordable Healthcare Act", which in all likely hood will cause healthcare to be even less affordable as the dust settles.
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Only addressing the first half wall of text:

1) You are attacking the man for not knowing what real America is like because he lived in Hawaii? Hawaii is just like any other state. It is just more popular for tourists.

2) Studying abroad? What is wrong with that? It's good to learn about other cultures. Jelly?

3) The man does have a poli sci and masters degree so give him some credit.

4) I also reside in IL. He did not bully his opponent for the senate race, his opponent was a joke in general. I could have beat him if I met the age of requirement.

5) Party of opposition oh yeah. Go read the amount of fillibusters during Obama's term brough by Republicans.

[IBCoupe]

Tell me again how I prove a question?

When will you stop having anal sex with complete strangers?

Does your mother know you're really into Tron?

If the world ended tomorrow, would you share photos of your pink ballerina outfit?

You don't prove a question; you prove the assertion you made in the question.

[stebo0728]

Id like to add one note to my rant above. So Presbo decides to end the work requirement for welfare? Douche move in my book.

[stebo0728]

Only addressing the first half wall of text:

1) You are attacking the man for not knowing what real America is like because he lived in Hawaii? Hawaii is just like any other state. It is just more popular for tourists.

2) Studying abroad? What is wrong with that? It's good to learn about other cultures. Jelly?

3) The man does have a poli sci and masters degree so give him some credit.

4) I also reside in IL. He did not bully his opponent for the senate race, his opponent was a joke in general. I could have beat him if I met the age of requirement.

5) Party of opposition oh yeah. Go read the amount of fillibusters during Obama's term brough by Republicans.

1 & 2) I probably didn't clarify well since that was one open rant, but I wasnt intending to attack Obama on these 2 points, only to point out that he is really not any more "in touch" with the lower and middle class than Romney.

3) He wasn't sold as having degrees, he was sold as having experience.

4) Ive read articles to the contrary, I have heard first hand accounts to the contrary. But you have your own first hand account, so I wont further that point.

5) Filibusters are filibusters.