what mods should i get

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ilovedrifting
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you guys are prolly gonna laugh at me, but what are some things that i need to replace or add in order to drift with out beating on my car


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drifting is hard on a car no mater what you do to it

edit: suspention upgrades, sway bars, etc

BuudWeizErr
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you need an LSD.

that is all.

everything else is just extra.

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NiSilS14
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i think most essential are your brakes for drifting.

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The biggest strain it will PROBLY put on your is the motor. Unless you have enough torque to get it controlled without grabbing crazy revs your going to be giving your motor hell. So if you plan on drifting, either trash the motor you have now with a couple weeks of fun and plan on a swap, or take car of it, do the basic maintnence (oil, fluids, electrical). Heres another idea, get an oil cooler to keep your engine temps down. I now have a ca, and i already bought an oil cooler and from what ive been hearing lately, if you want to save your motor its a worthwhile investment.

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LSD first. Make sure it stays cool (engine), suspension. More power would help but the stock KA will do just fine for a beginner. And lots of cheap tires.

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ChunkiDori wrote:you need an LSD.

that is all.

everything else is just extra.


if you think about it, you dont even need lsd. :P

but i say replace suspension bushings and keep the engine running nicely and cool

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marshun wrote:if you think about it, you dont even need lsd. :P

but i say replace suspension bushings and keep the engine running nicely and cool


actually, you would need a (V)LSD... without one you would not be able to sustain a drift... good luck trying to drift with open diff...

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marshun wrote:if you think about it, you dont even need lsd. :P


open diff drifting isn't drifting.

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bull s*** it isnt, u guys are so damn closed minded only cause u havent seen anyone do it properly. we have a guy that runs peg legged, and puts guys w/ 2-ways and worked sr's to shame. this **** is just about knowing your car so well u can make it do whatever u can possibly want it to do. best "mod" is practice practice practice.

p.s. coilovers will make life alot easier to deal w/ knowing u didnt waste ur money on springs and shocks. and a Largus swaybar in the rear(they make the fattest(and not w/ a ph) one i've come across)

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k.

not going to argue with you.

you can't drift on an open diff. it's not possible to make transitions from left to right correctly.

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Stuntman240 wrote:bull s*** it isnt, u guys are so damn closed minded only cause u havent seen anyone do it properly. we have a guy that runs peg legged, and puts guys w/ 2-ways and worked sr's to shame. this **** is just about knowing your car so well u can make it do whatever u can possibly want it to do. best "mod" is practice practice practice.

p.s. coilovers will make life alot easier to deal w/ knowing u didnt waste ur money on springs and shocks. and a Largus swaybar in the rear(they make the fattest(and not w/ a ph) one i've come across)


um..who cares?dude..

you are officiallly branded asHARD PARKER!!!!!!

why would you shell out for largus??? cuz its jdm? i'll just take a HICAS or r33 gt-r rear swayand laugh at you because you spent 300+ and i spent 50 and its the same thing.

hahahahahahahahahahah

^ thats me laffing at joo cuz ur so jdmtyte

drifting isnt about knowing your car

its about going fast and wild

its about having FUN

seriously..it doesnt matter what car you drive...drifting is drifting..get over it.

i seriously want to piss my pants from the hiliarity of people who are like "be one with yoru car to drift"

neg

be one with the ebrake, clutch and brake pedals, and steering wheel.

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i havent shelled out for largus and i dont own any jdm tyte **** so shove it. all i did was get a used diff, took off my front swaybar, and got sring and struts(i know, a mistake). im saying u need to know your car if u want to hold out drifts especialy if your subframe is bent like mine and u cant get a proper alignment, it also helps to be able to control your car and not just react to some stupid thing u tried for the first time, and try to recover from it. i like to plan and control my lines. yes drifting is about fun, but you are a fag. maybe im overreacting but i dont know wtf HARD PARKER means other than you not knowing crap about me.

ps. i reccomended the largus because it is 30mm, not cause it is "jdm tyte yo", i think the hicas is only like 22 or 23mm i could be wrong though

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its 25 for hicasno largus rear is 30mm

the fronts are

rear is

27.5or 28

s13/s14 depending which one

i dont want to get into a piss contest with you

but all i hear coming out of your mouthare

bandwagoningandexcuses

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what is bandwagon about what i said?? that i bought what i could afford, or saying that u should know how the car reacts to different inputs?

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just get over it dude

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ChunkiDori wrote:k.

not going to argue with you.

you can't drift on an open diff. it's not possible to make transitions from left to right correctly.


I have read your posts in the past and agreed with just about everything, but on this issue I have to disagree. I believe you can drift with an open diff its just harder than if you have an LSD. An LSD makes things 100 times easier but its possible without one. I have done it and others have to.

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a good roll cage, seat, and harness are also good ideas. and if u want to play it safe you can pick up a halon firesystem for the car for arround $300. remember safety is important as well as being able to stay in the seat.

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I don't post much. But I know what it takes to drift. I'm not saying I can drift any better than anyone else in here, but stuntman has said it all. You don't need ANYTHING to drift, all you need is skill and a good understanding for your car. I'm not saying you need to "be one with your car", but I know for a fact that some kid with his daddy's money to spend and aftermarket parts like crazy can't drift worth **** compared to someone who has experience with drifting and a firm knowledge of the car he is in.

All you need for drifting is HUGE balls and a willingness to learn something new every day (including how much it costs to fix broken parts...).

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^ that is very true.

i recommend for a beginner that you use open diff. then if you have money and lsd would be nice.

everything is extra but i think it would make the drift more stable and controlable.

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ChunkiDori wrote:k.

not going to argue with you.

you can't drift on an open diff. it's not possible to make transitions from left to right correctly.


oh my lord.... well lets see. i've placed 7th out of 30+ people with my 240 with an open diff.

what hurt me was my exit speed since im peg leggin' it.

please dont spread disinfo about not being able to drift without an lsd.

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Ok, argument ended.

Now back to the original subject. Just keep practicing until you feel comfortable with the car. Then upgrade to preference (power or suspension) some will say I'm crazy for even mentioning power as being a first upgrade, but the 240 can handle quite a bit on stock suspension.

So, in answer to your question, whatever the hell you want. Drifting will always, no matter what, beat on your car. But there are parts that can handle wear better, and that are better suited for drifting than stock. So SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH...

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marshun wrote:oh my lord.... well lets see. i've placed 7th out of 30+ people with my 240 with an open diff.

what hurt me was my exit speed since im peg leggin' it.

please dont spread disinfo about not being able to drift without an lsd.


not disinfo.

open diff "drifting" vs real drifting is TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Not like SR vs KA different, like a whole other world. entries, lines, speeds, initiation, its all different, nor is it what i would call predictable.

go ask any of the top drivers what your VERY VERY VERY first modification should be. 9 out of 10 of them will say LSD. Only reason people drift on open diff: no money, to that, i say... well, sucks. drifting isn't cheap.

you can throw your car around and slide all you want, but you sure as hell aren't drifting. difference between drifting and powersliding.

pointing your car in a certain direction with power is standard for precise (aka fast) driving, and that doesn't happen on an open diff, sorry. however, your inside tire might make a lot of smoke which will make all the high school kids go ooh and ahh.

one thing i will say. if you are trying to drift on an open diff, and can pull off something that kind of resembles a drift, then you probably learned some extreme weight transfer. thats good, you'll be able to use that for certain things later on.

i'm talking 100% about like competition stuff. stuff that judges (who actually know what they're doing) look for. not just screwing around in your local wal mart parking lot. drift is about control, you can't control an open diff drift. it's not just about putting your right foot to the floor and seeing how much smoke you can make.

with open diff, you cannot hit a proper line, maintain speed, exit the corner smoothly and set up the car (or more importantly, weight) for the next turn.

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I'm sorry, but that's crap. An open diff can easily step out it's rear end and can also be controlled with countersteer and throttle. The speeds and perhaps drift angles may not be as high, and would make it tougher to be competetive, but it's still drifting.

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controlling a slide w/ countersteer and throttle is not drifting. It is called Powersliding.

"Drifting" is being able to link turns, follow a "race" line, and maintain angle.

I dare any one of you open diff heroes to try to link a turn and have the same angle when the car goes the other way.

By this I mean having a lot of angle coming into a turn, and when the weight goes the other way, getting the same angle.

This is impossible with open diff. The weight (if it even goes the other way) will not allow you to regain that angle.....you will most likely be doing a one wheeled wonder.

I suggest many of you step up to a diff, stop one wheeled powersliding and get out there and do it.

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die.

die die die

die

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the only thing that will change is your exit speed.

power sliding nothing.

lol. for someone who THINKS they know about drifting, you dont know crap

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hahahaha

there is just no comprehension for some people.

have fun with your open diff. honestly, have fun. just don't expect to go anywhere (realistically or metaphorically) with it. i'll take my locking rear end and continue placing high in the biggest amateur (non sponsored) drift series in the US, along with hypershift, thanks.

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2 months ago a peg legger WON the event in englishtown NJ. HE CAN DRIFT, and a hell of alot better than me and most of the guys i have seen. He links turns, pulls off nasty transitions, and drifts even by your definition. i fear the day this kid gets an lsd and so should you.

p.s. he's runnin a stock KA

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