what is the specs of the 94 cams

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I did a search for the answer and the closest that i came up with was that the 91-93 were the same and the 95-98 are the same what what about the 94 are they the same as the 91. thanks for your help.:D


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The 91 the cams were 240 degree on the intake and 248 on the ehxaust all other DOHC motors were 232 on both sides including 94.

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94 engines are the same as 93s.

But the most reliable info I have heard is that 91-92 cams are all the same...93-94 cams, there are a few different versions that nobody has tracked down. Speculation from some people said that maybe that change came with the removal of the SCV (intake butterflies). Speculation from others is that all S13 cams are the same. I believe that 91-92 cams are all the same and that 93-94 cams may be different.

In other words, use 91-92 cams. All S13 cams are better than S14 cams...contrary to what the last person said.

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ok how about someone giving me a real answer. im not into guessing games, but thanks for replying anyways..

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all S13 DE cams are the same, and all S14 DE cams suck.

if you doubt any of the info posted here, just buy the cams offered by nissan motorsports.

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Hey the 91 cams are 240/248 while the s14s are 232/232

good luck trying to put it in though I've alraedy had an expert look over it they won't work w/o valvetrain work. I was thinking bout getting a pair of s13 cams at a junkyard and then drop it in and get some easy hp but they won't work w/o valvetrain work which = extra $$$, in which case you'd be better off paying just alittle more extra money on a set of aftermarket cams)

the guy that told me is pretty reliable he was ognna drop it in for me, if any1 else disagrees plz tell me

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reason i was asking was i have a chance to get some 94 cams for real cheap just wanting to know if they were the same as the 91s thats all.

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The Nissan motorsports cams are 248 degree 396 duration both intake/ehxaust. What Nissan did was take two stock ehxaust cams from a 91 or 92 240sx and what they did was relocated the dowl pin on one of these cams to make it work on the intake side 248 is the tallest cam you can get from Nissan. and does wonders for S14 motors. I gained 12 WRHP from these cams. and I have the dyno to prove it just ask me. I really wanned 262 but what can you do? Good luck getting the motorsports cams I think there on backorder.

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I am Technoman wrote:The Nissan motorsports cams are 248 degree 396 duration both intake/ehxaust. What Nissan did was take two stock ehxaust cams from a 91 or 92 240sx and what they did was relocated the dowl pin on one of these cams to make it work on the intake side 248 is the tallest cam you can get from Nissan. and does wonders for S14 motors. I gained 12 WRHP from these cams. and I have the dyno to prove it just ask me. I really wanned 262 but what can you do? Good luck getting the motorsports cams I think there on backorder.


Hey Technoman,

I have been thinking about putting my '91 cams into my '95 engine in my '91 S-13 [confusing, isn't it?]

It is a straight bolt in, correct?I just need to figure out the shims for the lifters....that is what I understand...

Is that correct?

BTW, nice ride....

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Thanks Voodoo I never changed my shims. They are still the stock onesI have been using motor sports cams for about two years with no problems. I got the cams from Nissan when I worked for a dealer and I only paid 300 dollars and I even got free over night shipping. For me they were the best deal at the time because no one else even made performance cams for the KA at that time. 248 degree is the largest cam I would suggest using with stock shims. Anything over that you might want to replace the shims.

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Cool...

yeah, I have stock '91 cams....bought and paid for...

I know they are bigger than the '95's...and was just wondering about the shims....

I would post a pic of my ride, but it doesn't seem to attach...

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ha...there it goes...

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Nice looking car voodoo. I like that hood.

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You can use your stock shims with your stock 91 cams but you really need a 248 degree on the intake side to get 12 wrhp. the stock 91 intake cam is 240 degree and is better than the 232 that your using but you will only get about 9rwhp from the intake cam you intend to use.

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I am Technoman wrote:You can use your stock shims with your stock 91 cams but you really need a 248 degree on the intake side to get 12 wrhp. the stock 91 intake cam is 240 degree and is better than the 232 that your using but you will only get about 9rwhp from the intake cam you intend to use.


Thanks man...The scoop is real....for cooling....

Yeah, I realize that the 248 intake is better...but $$$ is the key...

I have the '91 in my garage...9HP is better than no HP....

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NISMO24096 wrote:ok how about someone giving me a real answer. im not into guessing games, but thanks for replying anyways..


Ok, how about this. Nobody knows for sure.

I could have just lied to you like most people do and speculated and claimed it as fact. Would you have preferred that?

Dennis

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someone with the know-how and the ability to get cams from 91-94 240SX should measure them.......haha, like they even care. The people that care can't do it, the people who could do it don't care. Such is life.

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And the best info is that there are more than 1 different type of cam from 93...so you'd need to measure more than just one.

That is a lot of cams to collect and then spend the time measuring...with not a lot to gain out of it.

If you want the good cams, just get the 91-92 cams and you'll be sure you have what you want. Get something else... maybe you will, maybe you won't...but you'll never know. Get a good deal on some 94 cams? Go for it...but don't try to sell them as 91 cams, since you don't know for sure that they are the same.

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All the s13 cams are the same as Im aware like posted. If your super super sceptical I could run a part # search off of my best friends (nissan technician) girlfriend (service writer)...

The s14 cams are exactly junk either... They could be usefull in conjuntion with the s13 cams a FI motor to shift the curves around slighty :)

As far as I have ever heard there where only 2 different DOHC cams... an intake and an exhaust and in the case of the nissan motorsports cam, a transexual (repinned exhaust hehe) intake cam.

Whoever told you a ton of valvetrain work is envolved should be kicked in the groin btw... I put 150k mile (the car happened to be a 91 but if it was a 93 I would have pulled them anyway as the FSM lists the same duration and spec in the 93 as in the 91) s13 cams into my 75k mile s14 motor. I checked the shim clearances and you know what... it was in spec on lobes. If it wasnt its not like its very difficult to do a little math pop one out and put a new one in.. Not exactly modifying the VT in my book.

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I like my "transexual" intake cam:D

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Yes, I am super skeptical, especially when I have heard from a reliable source who HAS ACTUALLY MEASURED SOME CAMS that the 93 cams aren't necessarily the same.

Just because it is in the FSM doesn't mean it is correct. Look at the picture of how the timing chain goes on the cam gears...and compare the number of links in the picture to your engine. They won't match, because the FSM is wrong.

I have just heard too much speculation on too much stuff in the 240SX world...so I am a skeptic. The benefit is, when I tell somebody something, I know it is the truth, and I can be comfortable giving advice.

And that is all I have to say on cams in this thread.

Dennis

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As I stated before, use the exhaust cams "only" from a 91 240sx for the best HP from Nissan. This is a fact! You can go measure all the cams you want on all the KA's you want 248 is the tallest you will ever find on a stock KA motor.


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