what is the difference between HID and the new bulb?

[dbigfoot111]

i ownd a stock 06 altima and its a bit too dark driving it at night?so i came up with some fog lightshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWfor that one do i install it below the bumper?

and this one is the projector fog lightshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWwhere do i install this at? replace it by the lights? or install it on the bumper?

and this is the bulbhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

can u guys tell me which good and where those are suppose to be installthankyouim new to this forum

[kuhan]

the last link is 55w bulbs (actually it shows 80 watts) which is too much, could burn up your fog light housing. Those bulbs are not HID bulbs. HID conversion kit usually runs cooler about 35 watts with 2-3 times brighter than stock halogen light. You should get an 3000k, 5000k or 6000k hid conversion kit for your fog lights. 3000k is yellowish color which is common for fog lights and better night driving (you can see the road better). 5000k is pure white and 6000k is whiteish blue. I got 5000k for my fog lights and 6000k for my low beams. You can get a set of Xentec hid conversion kit for $75 shipped off ebay.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...18031Check other hid threads for more info. Hope it helps.

[LongBeachCoupe]

i vouch for xentec.. i have 6000k headlights and fogs i got off eaby

[dbigfoot111]

the last link is 55w bulbs (actually it shows 80 watts) which is too much, could burn up your fog light housing. Those bulbs are not HID bulbs. HID conversion kit usually runs cooler about 35 watts with 2-3 times brighter than stock halogen light. You should get an 3000k, 5000k or 6000k hid conversion kit for your fog lights. 3000k is yellowish color which is common for fog lights and better night driving (you can see the road better). 5000k is pure white and 6000k is whiteish blue. I got 5000k for my fog lights and 6000k for my low beams. You can get a set of Xentec hid conversion kit for $75 shipped off ebay.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...18031Check other hid threads for more info. Hope it helps.

thankyou man when u got your fog lights did it come wiht th bulbs? and what brand would prefer me to geti come down withe 2 here the first onehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWand here is the second onehttp://item.express.ebay.com/0...sItemsome advice will help.thankyou

[kuhan]

my car came with stock fog lights. all I did was upgraded from halogen bulbs to hid. I think Xentec is a good cheap brand. Those fog lights look nice. just make sure they will fit onto your altima. if you are looking for better night driving, then go for 3000k (yellowish color) bulbs which gives you roughly 3200 lumens output compare to 700-800 lumens for halogen bulbs. That's a big improvement.This is the seller i bought my 6000k xentec

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...68916

Good luck.

[dbigfoot111]

i come down to this one that i want to buy, do i need the ballast for this? and will it fit my 02 altima? and is it plug and play?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWand is this a good a reasonable prize?also im lookin for head lights hids bulb and u give me a few links for it too
Modified by dbigfoot111 at 3:30 PM 3/29/2008

[audtatious]

If your car did not come with HID's then I suggest getting a 4300k - 6000k HID kit and simply upgrade your headlights. Adding foglights and putting HIDs in them will not do much for dim lighting other than flooding the road directly in front of the vehicle (eg: no distance)

[dbigfoot111]

If your car did not come with HID's then I suggest getting a 4300k - 6000k HID kit and simply upgrade your headlights. Adding foglights and putting HIDs in them will not do much for dim lighting other than flooding the road directly in front of the vehicle (eg: no distance)

sorry for my limited knowledge what do u mean "Adding foglights and putting HIDs in them will not do much for dim lighting other than flooding the road directly in front of the vehicle (eg: no distance)"well should i get the projector fog lights?

[audtatious]

Let's not discuss fog lights right now. What type of headlights do you have? If they are not HID (Xenon) then that should be your first upgrade.

[dbigfoot111]

Let's not discuss fog lights right now. What type of headlights do you have? If they are not HID (Xenon) then that should be your first upgrade.

well for the head lights should i just go on ebay for some cheap bulbshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWand im plannin for 6000k is that like

[audtatious]

If you want to see better at night then you will upgrade your factory non-HID headlights to use HID's. For light output, you will want bulbs in the 4300-5000k range. I would not suggest going above 6000k.

Fog lights are NOT driving lights so the only part of the road they add light to is directly in front of the car.

[dbigfoot111]

If you want to see better at night then you will upgrade your factory non-HID headlights to use HID's. For light output, you will want bulbs in the 4300-5000k range. I would not suggest going above 6000k.

Fog lights are NOT driving lights so the only part of the road they add light to is directly in front of the car.

yeah okay i guess i should go for 5000k,also how much did u get your headlights hids for? but i still want to get a fog lights and this right herehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWdoes it need the ballast to run?

[kuhan]

as audtatious has mentioned,

if you want to see better at night, then you need to upgrade your headlight low beam to hid first. in order to get hid, you need to buy the whole hid conversion kit, which includes 2 hid bulbs, 2 ballasts and the wirings. you CANNOT just buy the hid bulbs and plug into stock wirings! you need the whole kit.

watch the video for more info on how to install hid lights. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvhDGMUV4pg

If you want to see the best at night, then go with 5000k (3200 lumens output). http://youtube.com/watch?v=mdC...lated Go with low beam first and then decide if you want to add fog lights later.

[dbigfoot111]

as audtatious has mentioned,

if you want to see better at night, then you need to upgrade your headlight low beam to hid first. in order to get hid, you need to buy the whole hid conversion kit, which includes 2 hid bulbs, 2 ballasts and the wirings. you CANNOT just buy the hid bulbs and plug into stock wirings! you need the whole kit.

watch the video for more info on how to install hid lights. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvhDGMUV4pg

If you want to see the best at night, then go with 5000k (3200 lumens output). http://youtube.com/watch?v=mdC...lated Go with low beam first and then decide if you want to add fog lights later.

thanks alot Kuhan, i guess ill just get the fog lights firsthttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWdoes that fog lights need ballast to run? and will it fit?

[kuhan]

Why do you want to go with fog light first? if you want to hid, then you need the whole hid conversion kit.

[dbigfoot111]

Why do you want to go with fog light first? if you want to hid, then you need the whole hid conversion kit.

i like to go on fog lights first they a bit cheaper, yeah but hey those silvistar at autozone do i still need the ballast for that or is it just plug and play.1. will that fog lights need ballast or is it plug and play.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW2. if later i get hids kit, what brand should i get, and how much will okay brand be a good quality.

[kuhan]

i like to go on fog lights first they a bit cheaper, yeah but hey those silvistar at autozone do i still need the ballast for that or is it just plug and play.1. will that fog lights need ballast or is it plug and play.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW2. if later i get hids kit, what brand should i get, and how much will okay brand be a good quality.

dude, do you really know what HID is and what it stands for???

Silverstar is 55W halogen bulb - little bit brighter than your stock bulbs. Go ahead and buy whatever fog light kit you like. We already covered the brand of hid kits if you read my previous post.

[audtatious]

Installing fog lights is NOT going to help you see better. Sure, in the fog you may see better and you may have a bit more light on the road within 5' of the front bumper but it's not going to do diddly-squat on increasing overall night time driving.

Here is a comparison between HID and Halogen lighting when used for low-beams:

Based on the above, HID gives a whiter/cleaner light and has more distance than standard halogen bulbs. If you want to improve night time visibility, you will upgrade to HID headlights.

Now, foglight vs. headlight:

Foglights have a sort dispersed beam pattern. Headlights have a long beam pattern in order to see down the road:

The yellow section of the image above shows the foglight beam while the white beam is the headlight beam. You can see the foglight simply floods directly in front of the vehicle as all it is trying to do is assist the driver to see the road directly in front of the vehicle incase of fog. It will not help you during regular night time driving, only the headlight will.

If you are going for looks, then go ahead and get the foglights. If you really want to see the road better at night, then upgrade the headlights.

[dbigfoot111]

omg thanks alot man i guess i should get the headlights HIDs first, and mabe later get fog lights for look.plz tell me will this be good 1.HIDshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem2.mabe fog lights later on,also does that fog lights need ballast? and will it fit?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWthankyou for relying back.

[audtatious]

Per the posts above it seems the Xentec's are ok? They do look similar to my kit (which is no longer sold). Just make sure you select the proper kit to match the factory bulbs.

If the fog lights fit then you should be OK I guess. Those are halogen so they need no ballast.

[dbigfoot111]

Per the posts above it seems the Xentec's are ok? They do look similar to my kit (which is no longer sold). Just make sure you select the proper kit to match the factory bulbs.

If the fog lights fit then you should be OK I guess. Those are halogen so they need no ballast.

what do u mean factory bubls? arnt they suppose to be HIDs bulbs?

[audtatious]

Only if you have a 3.5 with either Sport Plus Package or Leather Sport Package I believe. If not, you have halogen bulbs.

[dbigfoot111]

Only if you have a 3.5 with either Sport Plus Package or Leather Sport Package I believe. If not, you have halogen bulbs.

i have 2.5s 2005 so h1 HIDs will fit right?