What is the Big hype with a GT-R???

[BigSkeeeza]

I know that the GT-R is a cool car and all but what is the real deal with people wanting one so bad especially with the high price of one.

1. Is it the All-Wheel Drive that makes people wet the bed?

2. Is it the Wide Body stance that it has?

3. Is it the RB26 that is known across the board by everyone else?

4. Is it for the sake of you saying, " Ha I have a Skyline GT-R"?

I personally see people with GT-R's that keep them plain stock. Most people hear GT-R and think hey I can beat your car by just having the GT-R badge, which might be true in some circumstances but for the most part it is what you have under the hood that makes the diffrence. I could easily put a RB26 in my '33 and put a GT-R badge on but I will not perpatrate like that but it will be a GT-R wouldn't it? People are having hard times with the new Toyota Mark II Chasers with GT-R's and it is not because they are twin-turbo. So my questionnot to upset anybody is what is the hype for a GT-R?

[adrianfromthecastle]

RB26dett > RB25detquit whining, and be happy that you have a skyline to begin with

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

God drives a GT-R.

[240Ghost]

God drives a GT-R.

[celm]

skylines just help pay the mortgage,im not to crazy for them.i will still keep my JDM evo 3 over a skyline any day

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

skylines just help pay the mortgage,im not to crazy for them.i will still keep my JDM evo 3 over a skyline any day

I demand pics of your JDM Evo 3!!!

[adrianfromthecastle]

i will still keep my JDM evo 3 over a skyline any day

dam... my bad! lol...<-- JDM envy

[BigSkeeeza]

Well let me pave the way...

Stock RB26DETT>280psStock RB25DET>250pswait add a boost controller and intercooler w/ GT-r pump and @ .90BAR you can obtain 320ps, man but that is including a GT-R part sorry...

[celm]

[sean8564]

I agree with frank skyline just pay the bills. Personaly I like the R32 GTR but i have driven 33's and 34's hell even I even drove a R34 Vspec 2 Nur edition that was built by HKS. and they are ok cars. You really don't want to drive fast in them you just want to cruse and be seen by others. Personaly I am looking at buying a JDM 98 WRX STI 2 door or a 22B. Only after I buy the GTR for my self that i want to keep.

[akwikz]

There are a couple of ways to look at this. First for those of us here in the U.S. there is the lure of forbidden fruit. There is also the aspect of rarity. Car guys of any type want to be able to seperate themselves from the pack. Starting off with a car that was never sold here is a big edge.

Now, the rest of the world for the most part does not have these same roadblocks. Skylines are legal almost everywhere else. While they are still somewhat rare, they are not taboo. So, to explain the furver they have over this car is most likely because of the performance and the potential performance. The car has been a world class car almost from the day the first one rolled off the line back in 1957. Most models of Skyline have also been fairly attractive too. The car, at least the higher trim models, are fairly limited production as well.

As for hype, realistically there is none. As the old saying goes, "It ain't braggin' if you can back it up". There has never been another car as utterly dominant in racing over so many years as the Skyline. In fact, the closest in line is probably another Nissan, the Z car. No single car has ever been such a driving force in motorsports. The car was singlehandedly responsible for the creation of new racing categories. Other manufacturers pulled out of racing entirely as opposed to trying to keep up. The car was handicapped with weight and boost restrictions in attempts, unsuccessfull ones at that, to give other cars a chance to compete. When this failed several countries flat out banned the car. Now, if you go a step further and segregate the models of Skyline, you will find that every generation of GT-R has been the top dog of it's day. Aside from the '73 KPGC110 GT-R which was never actually raced by the factory, every GT-R has been unstopable. Now, I'll give you my opinion on the matter. From the first time I saw a '71 Skyline I wanted one. I happen to think it is the best looking car to ever come out of Japan and has superb performance. I had also liked the '73-'77 model as well and once I was able to I bought one to go along with the '71. I have also had some time behind the wheel of some R32's and even by todays standards the car is amazing. An R32 GT-R feels more precise and powerful than any newer car I have driven including a C5 Vette. They are just great cars.

Brian

[themadscientist]

The R is not just about the numbers. IMO it is a perfect balance. It has gobs of power that it can apply in a controlled fashion, it handles like a dream and stops effortlessly. Everything about it is just right. In the same way the AE86 attains such a mythic balance of attributes that still put it at the top of a short list of legendary defining cars the r does that. There are cars that can be faster, there are cars the may handle better, etc but very few cars get everything working in concert on the same level as the GT-R does. I hope to own one in a few years, an R34 in Bayside blue. I will leave it basically stock and enjoy it's precision. Comparing it to my T would be like a Rolex next to a Swatch so anything I did would just screw up that balance. The T will be faster but will never acheive the sophistication and cool confidence of the R.

[Okinawa_BNR34]

i pretty much agree with everyone here concerning the greatness of the R's. speaking from experience the performance is outstanding. everyone talks about how expensive they are...sure, if you're comparing them to most other imports and domestics, but find me another car that can put out "supercar" performance that cost less than an R? Go ahead and include the price of importing it to the US.

[alms24sebring]

everybody has atleast one..

-honda has the 6 cylinder v-tec NSX-suburu has the beast STi car that sounds like nothing else-mitubishi has the rally title for the evo's-volkswagon has the very nazi beast R32 GTI-ford has the mustang..(kill me now)-chevrolet has a true v8 beast comaro's... and the domonant corvette-dodge now has respectable very quik 4 cyl. turbo, SRT-4.. and the SRT-10 viper-mazda has the great rotory RX7-toyota has the ultimate street car, supra-and of course nissan has the RB skyline.

very nice evo by the way
Modified by alms24sebring at 12:08 AM 1/1/2007

[slik_s13]

all iknow is if i had a skyline i wouldnt be asking what the hype is, cuz i would know just by having one.. you gotta now why everybody wants one. im just saying, you have great examples from these fellows on the forum now.

[sflkouki]

hey celm.. sweet evo 3..very clean

[RB20Skyline]

Evo's are good cars. But I have seen the results of a broken rear diffheadcasing that cracked and the cog broke free thus shreaded one of theother cogs inside after 7000rpm launches with only 350hp. Althoughthe driveshafts seem to be alot stronger. GTR's don't seem to breakdiffhead casings like that as they seem to be made of a stronger metal.The GTR drivetrain is said to be good for 700hp, but with upgradeddiffheads, gearbox, etc, has been pushed to around 1100hp (dragracing).

The GTR's strength is its ability to keep up the pace on the racetrack,when it rains (4wd). It's more of a HP racecar than tight corneringtype of rallycar like the EVO. The Nurburgring is said to be the GTR'sspiritual home. The R32 GTR lapped around 25 seconds faster than thePorsche, which was amazing considering the GTR had been around for ashort amount of time vs the Porsche that had years of development. ButCorvette and alot of car manufacturers use the Nurburgring racetrackfor testing.

The RB26 motor has good throttle response, which would come in handywhen exiting corners. I think the lateral balance is better on the V motorsand helps them corner faster. You can understand why they areswitching to a V motor for the 2007 GTR.

From what I understand the N/A V8's, etc, never produced 640hp thatthe turbocharged GTR had at Bathurst. The HP / 4wd advantage is oneof the reasons why the GTR was so successful in Australia. They tried toadd weight, lower the power (boost) to slow the GTR down but it didn'twork, so they banned the GTR (and the other cars including theturbocharged Ford's, N/A BMW's, etc) to make it a N/A V8 (Ford / Holden)only supercar series.

The R34 Nur is a watered down version of the Nurbugring R34 N1 GTRbut has the same engine. The N1 GTR is the top of the R34 GTR rangeand is modified to drive off the factory floor and onto a racetrack.

Some tuners in Japan put R34 N1 motors into R32 GTR's and build themto Group-A type of specifications.
Modified by RB20Skyline at 9:31 AM 12/31/2006

[alms24sebring]

im a huge racing fan didnt no that about austrailian racing, ive always wondered why they only race with v8's

[RB20Skyline]

Also I think the R32GTR won 26 out of 26 Group-A races in Japan.

Here's a link to a video clip of the Bathurst R32GTR pulling awayfrom the V8 powered Holden -

http://www.racingflix.com/foru...&PN=1

You can see for yourself the HP / 4wd advantage of the GTR andwhy it has a reputation.

The Bathurst R32GTR that won the last race is still in Australiaat the Lindsay Fox Museum. I think is painted a red colour insteadof the white colour of the earlier model R32GTR that competed atBathurst. Also I think they own other Nissan racecars that racedat Bathurst before the R32GTR.

From what I understand these Nissan's do get a run on the racetrackonce and a while.

Here's the photo's of the Bathurst R32GTR -

http://www.pbase.com/driftspice/gallery_1

I think the rims alone are worth around $10,000 for a set of 4rims and they had a few sets of them for 2 cars.

Also the Bathurst GTR raced at the Pukekohe racetrack in NZand a street course in Wellington NZ by a NZ driver. So it hasa reputation in NZ.

NZ has 3 of the fastest drag GTR's (street tyre records and overallrecord amongst other GTR records) in the world. But I think thosedragcars have some American made parts on them. So I guess it'sa combination of country's i.e US, Japan, NZ, Australia that madethose cars what they are today.

Although I guess the only car that would scare a Nissan GTR owner(when it's raining), would be the Quadraduce -

http://www.musclecarcalendar.c...24ebe
Modified by RB20Skyline at 8:06 AM 1/3/2007

[Count Zero]

Also I think the R32GTR won 26 out of 26 Group-A races in Japan.

Here's a link to a video clip of the Bathurst R32GTR pulling awayfrom the V8 powered Holden -

http://www.racingflix.com/foru...&PN=1

You can see for yourself the HP / 4wd advantage of the GTR andwhy it has a reputation.

*pout*File is no longer there...

But yea...it so completely dominated the circuit that NZ changed their rules specifically to disqualify the R32GTR from their Group A. They had to create their own GT500 category to race. (sore losers)

[alms24sebring]

Its the speed through the corners that count

skyline is king!

[RB20Skyline]

Sorry Count Zero. I should have checked the link first.

It was banned in Australia. The GTR raced in NZ and Australia.

I think the V8 only had 500-550hp. So against a 640hp 4wd R32 GTR,it would have struggled. Although later on the R32 GTR had roughlyaround 550hp, but still won (I think the Bathurst R32 GTR had a betterpower to weight ratio). From what I understand the BathurstR32GTR was the most powerfulest Group-A GTR at 640hp. TheGroup-A GTR's in Japan were around 550-600hp. Also the BathurstR32 GTR's had mods that you normally wouldn't find on other Group-AR32 GTR's at that time.

Ford's car was a RS500 Ford Cosworth Sierra (I think was 4 door).Also I think was a turbo charged 4cyl.

Most V8's supercars now have 640hp.

Some Skyline racecars in NZ compete in the NZ version ofSuperGT against Cheverolet V8's in Holden's, Viper,780hp Porsches. The Viper, V8's, Porsches seem topull away from the Skyline. Although the Viper hasaround 950hp from a N/A V10 motor VS the Skylinewith around 600hp from a turbocharged RB30.

The R34 N1 won the Targa in Australia. There is also aR34 GTR and a few R32 GTS Skylines in the Targa NZ rally.

So the Skyline is still active in motorsport, even though theyhave stopped racing them in the JGTCC (Japan GrandTouring Car Championship). It's now called SuperGT.They now use a 350Z with a twin turbo V6 motor.

Supposedly this V6 motor is the same motor that'sgoing into the new 2007 GTR.
Modified by RB20Skyline at 11:43 PM 1/5/2007

[Count Zero]

Sorry Count Zero. I should have checked the link first.

It's all good....just would have been cool to see that vid. I can google it, probably....

Quote »It was banned in Australia. The GTR raced in NZ and Australia.[/quote]My bad, I always thought it was NZ. Should have checked my facts before posting, eh?

[RB20Skyline]

No worries.

A GTR is quick once modified to racing spec. I think a R33GTR racecarruns 11.6 1/4 mile with circuit spec suspension, which is not designedfor the dragstrip. Although from what I understand a stock R32GTR iscapable of a 12.7 1/4 with only 311hp.

It's not the 280ps that the factory claims the R32GTR has. Fromwhat I understand, this is to meet the gentlemens agreementamongst the car manufactures (Japan), to not excede 280ps.

The new GTR is supposedly going to break this agreement.

The R33GTR is said to have around 320hp and the R34GTRaround 330hp.
Modified by RB20Skyline at 12:01 AM 1/6/2007