What is needed to do SR20 Swap into 95 S14?

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Some of you may know already from my other posts that I am trying to get ahold of a 1995 S14. The engine in it is not in working cond. but thats ok because I want to do the sr20 swap anyway. I'm going through the SR FAQ located here: zerothread/145184 and it seems to be very useful. Still though, I'm confused. Where can I get the total package for the swap? Like the engine and all other parts needed to do the swap?

I also plan on either pushing the stock turbo to like 12psi or just getting a new turbo entirely. Any suggestions on parts?

The guy I'm buying the car from is really helpful and says he'll help me through the swap with what parts I need. However, I kind of need to price out things now before I sell my honda and go forward with the 240 project. I dont want to run out of money near the end and not be finished with the car.

Would about 6k be enough to make the s14 look nice and have a good sr swap in it? I'll be doing the swap on my own. I've got the tools to do so. The only problems with the car is the body. It has some dents and some minor problems so a re-painting of the car is a NEED.

Thanks for any help..


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Any SR motorset should have all the parts absolutely necessary to get the car running but any of our sponsors will other miscellaneous stuff.

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If I remember correctly, it cost me about 5K for an SR swap which included the swap and all the necessary bolt-ons. This will get you a pretty decent stock SR setup.

Prices climb pretty fast from there if you want to play.

Bigger turbo, injectors, maf, cams, head work, etc etc all add up once you want to climb the power chart. The stock turbo gets pretty boring after a while just like my gt2871r got boring after a while... I could get a GT3076r then that will get boring after a while...

then I need to get to the speed of sound then I will still get bored... you get the point.

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was that 5k with u installing?

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Depending on what year SR, you can get a full clip for somewhere around 2500

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Buy a Front clip.

You get the sidemount IC, and everything else you need to do the swap. The only thing you will need to buy is an upgraded fuel pump, downpipe, and a couple gauges. I would suggest boost, A/F, and fuel pressure, oh... and def an oil press if you don't already have one.

A front clip is the way to go to get a running swap in one package. You can always upgrade to a front mount intercooler and all that jazz later.

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ddgsxr504 wrote:Buy a Front clip.

You get the sidemount IC, and everything else you need to do the swap. The only thing you will need to buy is an upgraded fuel pump, downpipe, and a couple gauges.
Or not buy a front clip.

I bought my motorset from NICO sponsor JHOT. They were nice enough to send me practically everything needed to get my car running, including 180sx SMIC w/piping, downpipe, 180sx fuel pump, and Blitz airfilter w/ intake piping.


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Indeed. Like a mentioned any motorset worth a damn will have everything.

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Well not every seller is as cool as JHOT.

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cool, I planned on get a fmic right off the bat anyway just because it looks cooler.

Other than that I was plannin on buying the mother off of one of the sponsers. The one I'd be looking for would be a s14 blacktop right? Cause the other ones are meant for s13's right? Or does it not matter? Cause I like the style of the valve cover for the redtop engines.

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It does matter. The wiring of an S14 SR into and S14 is completely different than an S13 SR into an S14. One is not necessarily easier than the other but they are different.

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Buy from our sponsors. I can't stress this enough. I got the majority of my support hardware from Enjuku Racing. As far as a motor set, I would suggest Heavy Throttle. They are a little more expensive than the rest, but you get what you pay for. I went the cheap a** route and bought from JazzPro. I got the headaches that came along with it too. I bought a brand new SR harness and a brand new KA harness through Enjuku and had their wiring/tuning wizard Estevan wire them together. That guy really knows his stuff, and does a great job.

Things to buy along with your motor set or front clip:

new valve cover gasketnew front main sealnew rear main sealnew beltsnew SR heater hosesnew radiator hoses (I would also upgrade the radiator as well)I would recommend the Koyo aluminum radiator.new fuel pumpI would recommend the Walbro 255.new fuel filter (Z33 fuel filter is a good upgrade)new air filter (duh)new oil filter (duh)oil pressure gaugewater temp gaugeboost pressure gaugeI would recommend the GReddy VSPL FMIC.I would also buy a 3" down pipe and a 3" cat-back.

Also, check your oil pan very closely when your motor set/front clip arrives. I replaced mine with a new stock oil pan, because it was punctured on the side of it when I received it. The stock oil pans are usually in stock at Enjuku and are much less expensive than the GReddy.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your purchase.


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Thanks man yeah that helps, I just need to get the wiring done as well. So how would I go about that anyway? Just contact the same people?

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Incidentally the Koyo Copper has superior cooling abilities than the aluminum as copper diffuses heat more efficiently than Aluminum. Something you might want to consider as the copper is about 1/3rd the price of the aluminum radiator.

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Yeah man. Just call Enjuku and tell them what you need and what you need done. Heavy Throttle also does wiring services too. Wiring Specialties is a great sponsor that specializes in harness re-wiring. So you've got a few choices. I went with Enjuku because that is where I got all my parts, and Estevan is a genius.

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Very true about the copper, but it is heavy and not nearly as sexy to look at.

I've driven mine every day in 105 degree heat down here in southern MS this summer without a problem. I did not mention that I have the FAL dual 12" fan setup that covers the entire surface of the Koyo though.

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cool thanks guys! Now all I have to do is sell my accord and I'm all set. :P

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Is that the S14 you are trying to buy in your sig? Got more pics?

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I'd get a motorset if u can. That will GIVE u all the small parts u'll need. I'm still not sure what I wanna do. Search around and see what ur goals are.

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brandonlgilbert wrote:Is that the S14 you are trying to buy in your sig? Got more pics?
oh hell no I wish. Thats the style body kit I'm going to do on my car when I get it.

First things first tho is to get it runnin with a new sr, as the stock ka doesnt run lol. But thats why I'm getting the s14 for 1500 dollars.

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redtop91 wrote:It does matter. The wiring of an S14 SR into and S14 is completely different than an S13 SR into an S14. One is not necessarily easier than the other but they are different.
Actually S14 SR into S14 240SX is pretty straight forward. Besides the harness needing to be lengthened and shortened there are only 3 wires that need to be re-pinned/rewired.

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if you want a stock setup, get a front clip. if your going to upgrade a bunch of stuff anyway, then don't bother, just get an engine and go from there.


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kornmanz wrote:was that 5k with u installing?
yes, of course. The price includes things like DP, FMIC, Headgasket, new oil pump, fuel pump, etc etc.

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The installation is pretty easy; it's absolutely not worth having somebody install IMO. Plus you get all that satisfaction when you do it!

I went with Heavy Throttle back before they did the whole "swap package" thing that they do now, and even then I had pretty much everything I needed minus the intercooler (I went FMIC anyway). They are a little more expensive but you definitely get what you pay for. The swap packages are a great deal I think, actually.

Replace as many parts as you can afford. It'll save you headaches down the road...especially if you have a crappy T25 turbo. Lol


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That is what you call a crappy painted on eyelid. Don't hold it against me, it was like that when I bought the car. It is something that I can tolerate until I can afford the German glass lenses or Final Konexion clear lenses.

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steeda763 wrote:The installation is pretty easy; it's absolutely not worth having somebody install IMO. Plus you get all that satisfaction when you do it!

I went with Heavy Throttle back before they did the whole "swap package" thing that they do now, and even then I had pretty much everything I needed minus the intercooler (I went FMIC anyway). They are a little more expensive but you definitely get what you pay for. The swap packages are a great deal I think, actually.

Replace as many parts as you can afford. It'll save you headaches down the road...especially if you have a crappy T25 turbo. Lol
So what do you mean? Which parts in general?

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Well, I meant to say replace as many worn/broken parts as you can during your swap. Parts such as motor mounts, hoses, connectors, P/S or coolant reservoir, radiator, master/slave cylinders, etc. Check over your engine and replace anything that might be bad on it. The power steering rack might need some attention as well (mine did). Parts that look like they might go bad will go bad, and replacing them up front and with the engine out will save you a lot of stress later on.

Also, if you plan on upgrading your clutch and/or flywheel at all, do that during the swap.

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steeda763 wrote:Well, I meant to say replace as many worn/broken parts as you can during your swap. Parts such as motor mounts, hoses, connectors, P/S or coolant reservoir, radiator, master/slave cylinders, etc. Check over your engine and replace anything that might be bad on it. The power steering rack might need some attention as well (mine did). Parts that look like they might go bad will go bad, and replacing them up front and with the engine out will save you a lot of stress later on.

Also, if you plan on upgrading your clutch and/or flywheel at all, do that during the swap.
oh yeah for sure. I have a cherry picker so I'll be able to build what I can on the engine before putting it in. I'm going to basically do exactly that. Take apart the whole engine and then re-build it with new parts..I want that thing to run really great for as long as I possibly can.


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