what fuel controller do you use

[jrb92se]

ive got an rb25 im wondering what fuel control everyone uses and what you guys think is the best option the cars running rich and want to get it on a dyno and tuned properly i know i can use a fpr and gauge but want to go electronic and do it right

[Carl H]

powerfc.

[lucky7]

PFC

[Chaos the Xile]

^^Power FC, is the everything Computer for RB's

[lucky7]

hey Chaos the Xile, where at in cincy do you stay? i went to high school in west chester. like 25 mins north of UC off of I75.

[jrb92se]

i was told i can use an apex safc2 is that a good idea y/n? thanks for input

[Carl H]

works as a bandaid fix but not for serious tuning.

[lucky7]

i went with the PFC now, because i plan on running a big turbo eventually. basically, i have been planning ahead for 450ish whp.

[jrb92se]

is a pfc more then $600.00 there arent any prices on the apex site

[240z4u]

Power FC, yes more than 600. Go check ebay.

[98birdls1]

Are you guys learning to tune your FC yourself or taking it to someone professional? I would think to learn yourself you'd need a laptop to log everything as well. I haven't seen alot of places close to where I am that have the ability to tune PFC.

Tuning a stock motor isn't a big deal, but when the power level goes up, one wrong parameter and bad things can happen. Plus to learn to tune PFC yourself I'd think you'd almost have to DD the RB and watch it all the time.

Luke

[Carl H]

i tune my own cars, wideband o2 and egt gauge are all you need.wideband for fuel tuning, egt for ignition...its not hard to tune the pfc, pretty simple really ive almost got my map done and a few more tweaks and it should be mint

[jrb92se]

the guys at the shop i go to told me that safc2 is good to control up to 555cc injectors and the the pfc is a very good computer but for the hp #'s im looking for the safc 2 should be fine im only looking for about 300-325 hp and im probly going to keep stock inj. and turbo till they break or it bursts

[Carl H]

safc will not control injectors roughly double the size well, and if you change mafs then its gonna be even worse...but up to you man, your choice.

[rb240det]

the guys at the shop i go to told me that safc2 is good to control up to 555cc injectors and the the pfc is a very good computer but for the hp #'s im looking for the safc 2 should be fine im only looking for about 300-325 hp and im probly going to keep stock inj. and turbo till they break or it bursts

I would not suggest using the SAFC for bigger injectors. I was using it with my 440cc injectors, Z32 MAF, and bigger turbo. I had to take out 30% fuel correction across the board when I had it tuned, which is just ridiculous. If I had the money, I would definently upgrade to a PFC or something else.

[jrb92se]

my goal is 300 - 325 rwhp. im not going to change the maf or injectors if i dont have too to reach it , and to be honest im probly not going to get a bigger turbo unless i need one either . i really dont know what kind of upgrades i need to reach that goal, ive got a manual boost controller set at 10 psi, a front mount, 3inch turbo back exh. i bought a 3inch cat test pipe today. im going to scrap the m.b.c for an electronic when i go to get this tuning done and i think after its tuned properly i should be able to make 300-325whp. what do you think, is 300 to 325whp possible with this setup y/n? can the stock turbo make those numbers? thanks alot for all the info guys dont get me wrong i want to spring for the pfc i understand that it is the best way to go but im also trying to save for a diff., a koyo rad, body work and paint and i hate to use the word but im on a budget. carl, do you think that the safc would be good to reach my goal considering my budget or should i just save longer and buy the pfc? tahnks again for the help

Modified by jb96s14 at 11:56 PM 8/23/2006
Modified by jb96s14 at 11:57 PM 8/23/2006