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Here is a pic of a turbo i just might buy.....i dont know what the a/r is or anything, but i do know it is a garrett t3/t4 and it has a 2'' air inlet.........what do you guys think about it? and do you guys think it will work well with a Rev/Hard manifold??

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Looks purdy small, but should prolly make a couple hundred horses.

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bigger than the turbo i got now. my little 14b rebuilt turbo.

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That is a hybridized KKK turbo. The housing looks like a #8 housing from a K26 commonly found on the 944 Turbo S. It could be the smaller #6 housing from the non-S models.

The compressor looks like a Garrett, a very tired one. If I had to guess that is a 0.50 A/R T04B cover.

Either way you could get about 300whp out of that turbo, if not more.

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300??? I wouldn't think it would do much more than 260-270whp on fairly high boost.

Of course, the only way to really know is to see a map of that turbo.

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cool.....sounds all good to me guys.........i just bought the turbo for $110.00..... ......do you think it will go well with a rev/hard manifold?

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I think I have seen that one before, on eBay maybe. I remember it because of the bent stud.

Anyway, why take a chance? I would say save a bit and buy a brand new turbo, or at least a rebuilt one from a reliable company.

check out westcoast-turbo.comthey have pretty good prices. Their T04B is $399 IIRC its garrett, but rebuilt. pretty good priced though.

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If the revhard has a T4 flange then that turbo won't work because it's a T3 flange.

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WDRacing wrote:If the revhard has a T4 flange then that turbo won't work because it's a T3 flange.

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The revhard uses a T3 and T4 flange setup. So he is fine

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The All Mighty KA-T wrote:Here is a pic of a turbo i just might buy.....i dont know what the a/r is or anything, but i do know it is a garrett t3/t4 and it has a 2'' air inlet.........what do you guys think about it? and do you guys think it will work well with a Rev/Hard manifold??

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Is that a T3 flange? I thought it was a K26 like Alan said...

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WDRacing wrote:If the revhard has a T4 flange then that turbo won't work because it's a T3 flange.

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That is not a T3 flange. It is a proprietary KKK flange.

A T3 or a T4 flange will not work... it will leak horribly.

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KATwo40 wrote:300??? I wouldn't think it would do much more than 260-270whp on fairly high boost.

Of course, the only way to really know is to see a map of that turbo.
A stock K26 will push 270 - 280 on a 944 Turbo at a 8:1 compression ratio and a crappy engine management by even OEM 90's Nissan standards. The K26 #8 will do about 300whp or so as it has a larger exhaust housing.

That turbo has a Garrett coldside that is larger than the K26 cold side, paired with some sort, either #6 or #8, KKK hotside. It will make 300whp.

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so this turbo will not work with the Rev hard manifold?

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any turbo should work with any mainfold.. don't ya just gonna weld the right size flanges on the turbo mainfold to make it fit and work?? thats what i been told before.

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The All Mighty KA-T wrote:so this turbo will not work with the Rev hard manifold?
The last time I checked the Rev Hard manifold did not have a KKK flange.

Buy a flange and send it to Rev Hard to have them weld it on.

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[offtopic] Hey Nismo_freak have you had a 944 before, Ive had two of them which I loved and I was wondering where your knowledge of the 944 comes from. [/offtopic]

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virus77 wrote:[offtopic] Hey Nismo_freak have you had a 944 before, Ive had two of them which I loved and I was wondering where your knowledge of the 944 comes from. [/offtopic]
My friend has a 951, and a turbo 87' 911, and had a 66' model 911, and had a 914 as well.

I would more than likely never buy a 951. I'm hell on clutches and drivetrains and thats not a cheap or easy fix on a 951 as I'm sure you are aware of.

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does anyone know where i can get one of those flanges to make the turbo work with my rev hard manifold.....thanks

Is the turbo's exhaust flang bigger then the t3 and t4 exhaust flang or is it smaller, i'm just not getting why it will not work........

P.S. i dont have the turbo and manifold yet, there on the way.

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Have you checked JGS? If they don't have it, mill the turbine flat so it will work.

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Search for "KKK Flange" on Google.

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The All Mighty KA-T wrote:Is the turbo's exhaust flang bigger then the t3 and t4 exhaust flang or is it smaller, i'm just not getting why it will not work........
The flange is obviously different... just look at the thing. There is zero room for a gasket, and no gasket means you will have peak boost around 5000 RPM in 3rd gear.

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How does that equate to no gasket? Also, I have seen adaptors on eBay that sit in the round part. Look on there.

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Here's an wicked good idea, buy a different turbo. Any T3 or T4 will be more enough to support your power goals. That way you avoid anything custom. If you reweld a flange for this turbo to your mani, then your screwed if you ever wanna upgrade of since it's obviously a used turbo, if it takes a crap on you, then you have to buy another with the same off style flange.

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Chezedik wrote:How does that equate to no gasket? Also, I have seen adaptors on eBay that sit in the round part. Look on there.
Do you people seriously lack the ability to think? I bet you guys were the kids putting the square peg in the round hole in Kindergarten.

Do you see that giant recessed circle in the middle of what looks like a T3 flange? Can you imagine how well the gasket will stand up to 900 dec. C exhaust temps being exposed?

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Wow, tough guy mod! I bet you picked on the fat kids but wore baggy shirts. Why don't you go mod on Zilvia, if you are intent on hating on NICO guys?

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and if you both keep bashing each other it will end up exactly like a zilvia thread. you both make decent arguements so can we not have a bash-athon so people can learn stuff

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Well guys.......I got my money back on the turbo, so i'm just going to go with a Turbonetics T3/T4 with a .48 trim

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Alan is the fat kid...lol. Seriously though, he can't help being a d!ck somtimes, it's his normal mode of thinking, so don't take him to seriously.

He's also very well versed in most everything automotive. So he's a good resource to have and use.

And this is my section of the forums. It will never look like Zilvia...me and Fiz are way to cool for that to ever happen.

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I wasn't questioning his intelligence, I was just misunderstanding what he wrote. The way I read it was that a lack of gasket would somehow affect spool time. Then I got that. I am sure he knows what he is talking about, and in a lot of ways I do not. But that was out of line. But if you say it's cool, then I'm cool.


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