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...when you are car-shopping? What are your top must-haves?

Is it a manual (or autotragic) transmission, fuel economy, reliability, luxury features (heated seats, navi, leather), color, brand loyalty, hybrid, vert -or not-, RWD - FWD - AWD, the hot factor, cost to buy, cost to insure, cost to fuel up at the gas pump, a truck instead of a car, etc.?

For me:

Manual trans
Fuel economy (which ties in with the hybrid)
Fun to drive
Reliability

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Manual trans, purchase price, fun to drive factor ---> (power, handling, responsiveness), looks.

Fun to drive can also go the other way, like if something is horribly crappy, smokes a lot, makes noises, obnoxious tire squeal when you're really not pushing it hard at all, etc. There's just something fun about a raging POS.

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I'm trying real hard not to car shop. :(

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^When do you graduate (if you haven't already)?
Altima coupe 3.5 is nothing to shake a stick at... especially for a year round car that you can actually drive in the snow.

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I will enjoy a manual transmission car that won't have interference engine, I guess a four cylinder for this purpose...no matter about radio/CD as long as it has a 2DIN space to install my own Radio/CD/DVD/GPS/Bluetooth/SD card/iPod connector device...I think new cars have changed the dash so much to a certain style that fits their manufacturer devices only that I might need to adapt the entertainment device I want somehow in the dash...I will try leather seats, and no more Hyundais, because these cars are very good and reliable but any code trouble with ABS or Air Bags means about $4,000 to buy the Scan Pro Lite device to troubleshoot...these cars are not "do it yourself" friendly.

Speed and how well responds in curves is not my thing but comfort, I love a vehicle to travel long distances sometimes, so if it is economic will be better, but comfort comes first. I will prefer a car easy to maintain, this is to say, not much complicated to repair, I know that this task is harder each time in new models, but basic maintenance must be easy to do.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:^When do you graduate (if you haven't already)?
Altima coupe 3.5 is nothing to shake a stick at... especially for a year round car that you can actually drive in the snow.
If I can find an adviser for a special research project, January.

I like my Coupe, but we're planning on moving to Manhattan, and Ill probably be selling it in a few months.

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-Manual is a MUST, no manual no care
-AWD or RWD, I refuse to drive FWD anymore with a few exclusions (kind of want a Focus RS or MS3).
-Safety is #1 once the autotragics and FWDs have been weeded out.
-Fun to drive/utility balance, both are needed both must be balanced.
-Fuel economy, I've driven everything from 1.6 civics @ 30+mpg to my 4Runner @ 13mpg so not that big of an issue I've learned to budget for fuel.

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Character

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I decide what kind of car I need (truck, sedan, wagon, coupe)
Then I calculate what I am willing to spend
Then I find out what car has the best power to weight ratio in my type/price range

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I'll start by saying it depends on what the vehicle is going to be used for.

What I wanted in a sports car:
-Classy
-Factory boost
-Manual trans of course
-Handling
-Luxuries
-A car with history
-Comfortable

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Reliability.

Why buy if you can't drive?

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sonoii wrote:
IBCoupe wrote:I'm trying real hard not to car shop. :(
I feel for you, dude.
This might be the greatest spam-bot response I've ever seen.

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I look for:

--Fun to drive factor (which is vague and encompasses some of the other criteria I consider, which are also important on their own).

--A good chassis. Something neutral, without too much protective tuned-in understeer. Something that pivots around the middle. With an obedient back end that knows the difference between following through a turn and putting on a show (the latter is fun, but the former is USEFUL). Something that responds to steering inputs under heaving braking by STEERING. Something that talks back to the driver.

--A good powerplant. Preferably with 8 cylinders or more. Something that combines low-end torque with strong high-rev power. Something that's smooth from idle to redline. Something that's responsive. Something that sounds nice. I don't want to drive a car that sounds like marbles in a blender, or a weed whacker, or nothing at all.

--A good drivetrain. Most likely RWD, though there are plenty of well-designed FWD cars I'd happily drive. I do not like AWD, and will avoid it. The drivetrain needs to ENABLE the engine and the chassis, not hold them back.

--Attractive looks. Nothing overstyled. Subtle aggression is what I like. Something with good proportions, clean details, with a combination of handsome and sporty. I'm not going to drive a car I can't bear to look at unless it does something VERY special. And I'm not going to drive a car that screams for attention (late-model Celica, for instance) at all. I buy cars for ME, not for everyone else. I don't want attention, I want to have fun.

--A decent transmission. I'd prefer a manual but it's hard to get one in the kind of car I prefer. If I have to get an auto, it needs a VERY GOOD manumatic mode, needs to be RELIABLE, and it needs to be geared right.

--Size. I can't drive small cars. They feel wrong. And I often don't fit. A car has to have a good legroom-headroom-reach ratio...some cars have good legroom but the steering wheel is too far away. Some have good reach (to the steering wheel) but there's no legroom. Some cars have ceilings where my shoulders go.

--FOUR DOORS. Unless I'm specifically buying a 2-seater, I require 4 doors. There are a few exceptions (I'd buy a Ferrari 2+2, for instance, if I had the funds). I am not interested in folding seats forward, climbing over things, or otherwise contorting myself or passengers into the rear seats. Rear seats need rear doors. And, on the flipside, rear doors need usable rear seats (I'm looking at you, Lexus IS). If there's no legroom back there, there's no point having doors to get into the rear seats...so there's no reason to have seats in the back at all.

That's the main stuff.

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AppleBonker wrote:This might be the greatest spam-bot response I've ever seen.
FTFY

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A RWD based 4WD or RWD.
Manual.
Prefer body on frame...but might go for a unibody.
If unibody, space frame aluminum.
No four banger, I'd prefer a crossplane V8 or a V6.
I don't care about reliability, but it HAS to be easy to work on. You can have the most reliable car on the road, but if it takes 6 hours to remove a heater core, no thanks.
Must be able to feel road vibrations through the seat.
Engine must sound trashy at high rpm.
Supercharged, no turbos, or naturally aspirated.
Prefer a vehicle that uses a CV instead of a driveshaft with u joints....so no u joints.
Multi port injection only, none of the DI crap. So much easier to change the injectors.

And the biggest decision maker of all, corrosion protection. The body panels and frame has to be made out of either hot dipped galvanized steel or steel made out of zinc-nickel alloy which is then epoxy e coated and then primered with epoxy primer and then painted with NON water based paint. Also, all of the interior cavities have to be drenched with a premium cavity wax and lanolin wax.

I want the car to smell like wet sheep.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:I look for:

--Fun to drive factor (which is vague and encompasses some of the other criteria I consider, which are also important on their own).

--A good chassis. Something neutral, without too much protective tuned-in understeer. Something that pivots around the middle. With an obedient back end that knows the difference between following through a turn and putting on a show (the latter is fun, but the former is USEFUL). Something that responds to steering inputs under heaving braking by STEERING. Something that talks back to the driver.

--A good powerplant. Preferably with 8 cylinders or more. Something that combines low-end torque with strong high-rev power. Something that's smooth from idle to redline. Something that's responsive. Something that sounds nice. I don't want to drive a car that sounds like marbles in a blender, or a weed whacker, or nothing at all.

--A good drivetrain. Most likely RWD, though there are plenty of well-designed FWD cars I'd happily drive. I do not like AWD, and will avoid it. The drivetrain needs to ENABLE the engine and the chassis, not hold them back.

--Attractive looks. Nothing overstyled. Subtle aggression is what I like. Something with good proportions, clean details, with a combination of handsome and sporty. I'm not going to drive a car I can't bear to look at unless it does something VERY special. And I'm not going to drive a car that screams for attention (late-model Celica, for instance) at all. I buy cars for ME, not for everyone else. I don't want attention, I want to have fun.

--A decent transmission. I'd prefer a manual but it's hard to get one in the kind of car I prefer. If I have to get an auto, it needs a VERY GOOD manumatic mode, needs to be RELIABLE, and it needs to be geared right.

--Size. I can't drive small cars. They feel wrong. And I often don't fit. A car has to have a good legroom-headroom-reach ratio...some cars have good legroom but the steering wheel is too far away. Some have good reach (to the steering wheel) but there's no legroom. Some cars have ceilings where my shoulders go.

--FOUR DOORS. Unless I'm specifically buying a 2-seater, I require 4 doors. There are a few exceptions (I'd buy a Ferrari 2+2, for instance, if I had the funds). I am not interested in folding seats forward, climbing over things, or otherwise contorting myself or passengers into the rear seats. Rear seats need rear doors. And, on the flipside, rear doors need usable rear seats (I'm looking at you, Lexus IS). If there's no legroom back there, there's no point having doors to get into the rear seats...so there's no reason to have seats in the back at all.

That's the main stuff.

On paper I'm strongly in favor of all of the above, but in reality my Saab has a narrow interior, goofy styling, a chassis made of gelatin, an ancient 3-speed auto (21mpg at best), and a whopping 160hp on tap with 0-60 times in the 8-second range. :rotfl

Yet, somehow, I've never been happier. I've gone off the deep end and love it. My next oddball/hobby car could be a hideously ugly, terribly unreliable early 80s bustleback Seville. :ohno: Or maybe something quirky and Japanese like an old Celica or Z31 with a digital dash.

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Reliability - If the car is my primary very it HAS to be reliable. I can deal with higher repair costs, if it doesn't have to constantly be in the shop. I hate constantly having to fix little things.

Build quality - I like a solid, well made vehicle. If it has cheap plastics, poor fitting panels, and looks like it will break at the first hint of slight abuse, then I won't buy it. I am meticulous about my vehicles, but other people aren't going to care, so I want something that can handle a little abuse without crumbling and cracking. This is one reason I prefer buying used too. I LOVE the pervious generation Ford Explorer, but after looking at a few used ones, I'll never own one. A 3yr old Explorers interior looked worse than most 10-12yr old vehicles. No thanks.

Drivetrain - I vary on this category, based on the purpose of the vehicle. For our family vehicle, I prefer a AWD/4WD vehicle with an automatic. Power isn't utterly important, but it needs enough to be suitable for highway use and being snappy around town. For myself, I prefer a manual transmission and RWD or FWD with a powerful, torquey engine. I like something that is still quiet to cruise in around town, but if I want to go rip through some back roads, or roast the tires, I want the capability.

Economy - I don't require a car farting sunshine and rainbows like some people, but I do still care about economy a little. Unless I'm driving a sports car, I'd like to achieve 30mpg or more on the highway. This isn't a hard request, but it's one thing I care about.

Comfort - I like something that I can take a long road trip in. We have to go to Washington DC and Atlanta fairly often, so a vehicle that I can comfortably stay seated in for hours without getting fatigued and uncomfortable is important. I don't like something boats feeling either though, so it needs a good balance.

I love Maximas more than anything when it comes down to it for my needs, but I can't say I'll buy another one next time. Unless I somehow find a low mileage 02-03 6spd. I will likely get an Optima, Sonata, or Fusion next.

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Manual transmission, air conditioning and a little insanity.

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Looks and comfort....then I screw up comfort by installing coilovers and noisy exhaust :)

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nissangirl74 wrote:...when you are car-shopping? What are your top must-haves?
RWD first and foremost.

When I put it to the floor, I need to have immediate gratification that lasts through multiple gears.

The seats need to be comfy and have decent lateral support.

Something most people don't look for that I do is the ability to service the motor and transmission myself. Too many companies have a dealer only service port with no dip stick. They can burn.

Gas mileage being the last thing I care about. I'd be willing to feed my car baby seal pelts if it would make more power :dblthumb:

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WDRacing wrote: Too many companies have a dealer only service port with no dip stick. They can burn.
The Nissan 7sp auto transmission is this way...but...it is supposed to last the life of the car with no maintenance. Of course it's not warrantied that way. :squint:

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No dipstick on the LS8 transmission. You check it lime you would a diff; pull a drain plug partway down the side of the pan. Stupid.

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-Cost is a big one for me, I really don't want my cars cost to make me not enjoy it.
-Reliability is probably the biggest item after that. Like someone said above, why get a car that won't run.
-Maintenance is probably the next one on my list. I really like the M3 and 335i, but would never buy one because the maintenance on them is crazy expensive.

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Comfort
Reliability
Style
Fun
Rear Axle

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nissangirl74 wrote: For me:

Manual trans
Fuel economy
Fun to drive
Reliability

This ^ is pretty much mine too.


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