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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWDoesn't look terrible.. I think IAP is still the best..


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looks decent but i always try to stay away from ebay parts...anything performance wise anyways

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Looks like a rev hard copy, couldn't be to bad.

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Yeah, looks like they didn't do too much of a crap job in the construction of it.

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Atleast its tubular, haha Im look at it too

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Uh oh, looks like I got some competition to hit the BIN button

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hahah Nah, Im having a hard time witht he shops around here and I think ill just go with the IAP kit.. Its a damn good deal.. you save mybe $100 doing it seperatly with all the parts.. BUT you a warranty with this kit and great customer service.. And EVERYTHING is shopping from one place so no tracking every little box..

Just my opinion!

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Its a cast type of mani, not even close to tubular...

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i actually ordered one yesterday ill take pics and let you know how it feels when i get it.

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Awesome- I'd love to know how it goes. Thanks again

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where is iap's website

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This is the thread that was started for IAP zerothread?id=119969

and this is their website.http://www.import-autoperformance.com

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I think IAP good, but calling it the best shows that there are a lot of manifolds you haven't looked at. A cast manifold, like you showed, can't be bad unless the ports don't line up or something stupid. Staying away from Ebay as a rule can be costly.. because there are VERY good deals out there. Like a cast manifold for $275. Only caveats to it are the ones associated with a real rev hard.-Jeff

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Yep, IAP is definitely not the best. The phatka-t manifolds seem very solid, the group buy ones from KA-T.org are likely very good as well. IAP is just a middle of the road tubular, definitely not in the same ballpark as somethign like Full-Race.

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realistically speaking a cast manifold is far superior when it comes to a all purpose vehicle( daily driven) a properly built tubular style manifold will utilize expansion slip joints to compensate for thermal expansion this is very important to keep it from cracking other than physical weight.

as for this manifold its a direct copy of the revhard but with thicker cast walls= more strenght. all i plan to do to it is slot the runners on the band saw and open up the stud holes to be extra safe upon heat expansion.

either way i will let you guys know the quality of the unit when i get it.

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Isnt that a nizzx manifold? I remember when realnissan turned into nizzx and they sent me all kinds of info on their parts, looks familiar.

But what do i know about turbo manifolds

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turtl631 wrote:Yep, IAP is definitely not the best. The phatka-t manifolds seem very solid, the group buy ones from KA-T.org are likely very good as well. IAP is just a middle of the road tubular, definitely not in the same ballpark as somethign like Full-Race.
The GroundZero manifold is very well built and is a great design. Too bad it has to sit in my room for a lil while waiting for my new turbo and downpipe flanges...

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The groundzero manifold is a bit high priced for what you're getting, in my opinion. It looks like a great manifold, but for an extra $100 or so, we're a few weeks from seeing sale-versions of the Peak Boost KA manifold. There is little cosmetic difference between the two, because there are only so many paths a fully equal length manifold can take. The difference, and the reason I'm more than willing to pay a $100 premium, is that Peak Boost is made of 321 stainless, and not 304 stainless. I can have a one-off manifold made in 304L for $200 in sch10 pipe and $200 labor. So, a nearly 100% markup isn't something I'm willing to pay. However, the Peak Boost manifold will be 30-50% marked up I'd guess, because 321 stainless is pretty expensive.

And last I saw, the Nizzx manifold used hexagonal-shaped runners. That's just a Revhard copy from some barely-known company. Not Nizzx.-Jeff

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Jeff240sx wrote:I think IAP good, but calling it the best shows that there are a lot of manifolds you haven't looked at. -Jeff
I was simply saying IAP because I was looking at their turbo kit, and as far as their manifolds compare to other eBay manifolds, I'd say its the "best"

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i use a revhard manifold, just like what you are looking at.

i do love that it is cast iron and strong as hell. as long as you do a few things to prep it for heat expansion. i have never had a problem

what does give you a problem with the revhard is turbo selection. it requires the use of an on-center turbine to properly clear the brake master cylinder. you can make some tangentials work but clearance will be a huge issue

precision makes a nice line of on-center turbos, i'm currently using the pt61 right now.

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Structure240sx wrote:i use a revhard manifold, just like what you are looking at.

i do love that it is cast iron and strong as hell. as long as you do a few things to prep it for heat expansion. i have never had a problem

what does give you a problem with the revhard is turbo selection. it requires the use of an on-center turbine to properly clear the brake master cylinder. you can make some tangentials work but clearance will be a huge issue

precision makes a nice line of on-center turbos, i'm currently using the pt61 right now.
Precision makes alot of nice everything. I had a RevHard, and have a question for you. How do or did you prevent bolts from spitting out? I lost 3 wastegate bolts, and 4 turbine mount bolts (over 7 different incidents), and couldn't ever figure out how to keep them in the manifold, and prevent the blown gasket.-Jeff

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thats odd i also have a rev hard manifold and i never had an issue with the bolts "spitting" out or a blown gasket. are you sure you put them tight enough?

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crave- you need to drive the car around a bit more than problems might arise

jeff- i never lost a bolt. when i put the new turbo on my bolts were slitghly loose. i havent done anything special to keep anything in, just luckly i guess

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The eBay manifold pictured has a head flange which has round ports. The stock KA has square exhaust ports. You should ask him if he can have it ported before it ships.

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nate - that is how all the manifolds come. part of the prep work to the revhard type manifold is to port out the openings (gasket match), drill out the bolt holes, slot the runners, and if you are running a t4 turbo port out the manifold outlet from t3 to t4. the last part for some reason i never realized until recently. ill be matching the outlet to my t4 gasket this week before going back to the track, should help flow a little

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I have yet to have a problem with bolts spinning out on my revhard either. I just tightened them well and they have yet to give me a problem. Closing in on one year of being turboed in September.

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Looks like a good deal but whats with "TOP and BOTTOM setups", is that possible?

and does this mean it's ss cast,


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Jeff240sx wrote: The difference, and the reason I'm more than willing to pay a $100 premium, is that Peak Boost is made of 321 stainless, and not 304 stainless.
I'm with Jeff here. I was looking at the PB mani, as well as the GZ Motorsports mani and the difference is in the grade of stainless. 321 is better for high head applications. It is stronger than 304 at those high temperatures, but it is also more expensive. That's why most people use 304. I've pretty much decided I'm going with the PB mani. Oh, and it's actually $150, but I'm sure they can knock a little off the price, especially if you're buying a few more things. Or maybe they'll run a GB on them as a intro, we'll see.

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DRIFTEADOR wrote:Looks like a good deal but whats with "TOP and BOTTOM setups", is that possible?

and does this mean it's ss cast,
Casting stainless is a pretty rare thing.. so I doubt it is. But I'm not a metallurgist. I just think if someone would be the first to cast SS manifolds, it wouldn't be aforementioned no-name ebay company.

What's with top or bottom mount? Have you seen our head bolt pattern? If it was a word, it would be a pallindrome. `.`.`.`. flipped upside-down would be *;*;*;*; -Jeff

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upSLIDEdown wrote:Oh, and it's actually $150, but I'm sure they can knock a little off the price, especially if you're buying a few more things. Or maybe they'll run a GB on them as a intro, we'll see.
Now it's $200. Groundzero's mani is $695 and the PB Mani is $899.


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