what do i need

[240sxGT_R]

Hi guys haven't been on here for a while due to my motor blowing up in my 240. Now im woundering what dose it take to do a sr20 det swap and bout how much will it cost me? thank you Tom

[abc123omg]

another kat or gtfo

[240sxGT_R]

yea i thought about the gt-r. Are those ka turbos bad man cause i come from muscle cars this is the first import i have ever owned and the reason i got it was to start drifting and i heard they were the best to do it with so i got it

[240sxGT_R]

Or can some one tell me where i can get a rebuild kit for my car like a low compression kit for a reasonable price. and tell me what i need to do this change.

[GTR PrYdE]

welcome to nico,

this is the turbo stock motor section so most people like to... turbo the stock motor instead of a swap.

so if yo want to rebuild a forged bottom end or a stock bottom end, you need to tell everyone your budget and goals..

[brizanden]

huhhhhh???????????

[neverlift]

huhhhhh???????????

what gtr thing?

and if you like muscle, a ka is where its at torque producing monstar

[GTR PrYdE]

I'm assuming he things when he said GTFO he meant GT-R..Give him a break..

[abc123omg]

i meant gtfo, not gtr. and i was just kidding

but what you need isdefine your budget and goals, and we can help you out from there man

and the STOCK ka is no chump, can take 350+hp on stock internals

and IIRC, a sr swap starts from 3k and goes up from there? feel free to correct me if im wrong..
Modified by abc123omg at 9:59 PM 10/5/2008

[neverlift]

sr is a great bolt in and boosted swap, however a good tuned kat will kill it, on the same snail and boost level..

I will most certainly not give him a break, when 1000's of these stupid sr vs kat threads have been covered... beyond he gave very little info as to his budget/goals, yeah this is the kat forum ,most have some knowledge and realize he most likely has an sr swap budget. sr is overrated imo, a bolt on ka can run with an sr in stock form, add boost= better To be honest if you only plan to run 8psi or less an fmu will handle all your fuel need WITH A WALBRO, and require no more than a * or so to be pulled from timing to be safe. And make roughly 50~70 more hp than the sr( local guy 8psi with 8:1 fmu made 270 something on 8 and 320 on 12) just cannot f around on fuel/tune....

op give more info on goals/budget/car usage

[480sx]

Pssshhhh bolt on kas cant run with a damned thing except maybe some early 90 SOHC hondas heh. 165 hp(if your lucky) with a bolt on ka vs pretty much any SR swapped 240 is going to get crushed even at stock boost. Maybe not by to much, but its not very hard to max out the t25 on stock injectors and put down 250+ hp.

[240sxGT_R]

my budget is around 3500. Im just trying to make this thing quick as hell. Like i said all the help i can get ill take. I dont know anyhing about imports or turbo systems i have always delt with N/A motors.

[abc123omg]

is this going to be a street car?are you aiming for 350whp?

[240sxGT_R]

well then can you help me by telling me what its gonna cost me and to build my ka cause like i said i got 3500 as of right now and i need to know what its going to take. The motor is knocking really hard on low end so i figure rebuild and if im going to do that i might as well do low compression to make more boost. thank you guys

[abc123omg]

might be cheaper to swap in a lower milage ka24de in good condition and just boost that. but if you want to do a full rebuild , than might as well go all out than..

but you cant go wrong either way.. just one will be a bit more pricey than the other.

[480sx]

Chances are if your bottom end is knocking your rod journals on the crank are in bad shape and need a regrind.

Your best bet would be to pick up another running Ka for about 350. Pick it up from someone reliable so you have a better chance that its in good shape.

While its out just do the simple stuff. Replace all the seals, and inspect everything. Bearings, cylinder bores, oil pump and relief valve, ect. Dont even bother rebuilding it yet. Your best move would be to spend the majority of your cash on a good turbo setup. That way, once you get your good setup you can start saving for a built block. If you build your block first you wont have enough money for a good setup that is key to reliability and the over all success of your turbo project.

[neverlift]

spend 5 or 6 hundy on your tune or a stand alone unit, ms seems good as a few on here run it with success...

480sx I like to thing tuning is what makes a reliable kat? wtf do I know I can blow an non turbo'd ka like no other... speaking of mine is blown, time for me to get un lazy and put this other one together

[240sxGT_R]

where can i get a ka motor at then instead dose anyone know that and for a reasonable price? i would prefer a low mileage engine do to the fact my car only has 80,XXX on it.

[red_rain]

3500 will be enough for a turbo kit.....but like the other guys said....find a used working ka and swap that in.....thats wat i did with mines....do a lot of research on wat parts and how much hp u want for ur car. we'll all try to help as much as we can......

[240sxGT_R]

Thanks guys will do dose any know where i can get a running ka motor from

[esahuque]

if all you know is muscle car's, then drop a V8 350 in there and call it a day!!!!

not my way to go just cause i love my ka but if all you know domestic V8's.

[240sxGT_R]

sounds good and all about the v8 thought about it but it jus seems like to much fabrication.

[Delerium]

LS1 swap doesnt require as much fab as you might think. There is a company that makes a kit to make the install easier. I did a quick search for you and found http://www.hinsonsupercars.com they look like a good place. I dont know if that will fit in the $3500 goal though. I have gained a lot of knowledge from the stickies at the top of the KAT forum and they are truly worth a read for anyone that is looking for information about a KAT project. I myself am in the process of having a new engine installed and looking at what turbo parts I am going to get first. I wish I had $3500 up front but I am a poor government worker who cant wait untill he saves up a large lump sum lol.

[240sxGT_R]

Thanks for the heads up to that site but that jus seems like to much of a build do you know where i can get a strong running ka motor at for a reasonable price?

[dblanehopr]

yea i thought about the gt-r. Are those ka turbos bad man cause i come from muscle cars this is the first import i have ever owned and the reason i got it was to start drifting and i heard they were the best to do it with so i got it

The KA can get upward of 400 horsepower without having to change any internals and it's easy and cheap. The SR is a huge controversy; lots of people like it, lots of people would rather spend the money on a KA-T. The RB is a big change. Then you have the VQ (maxima box 6), and the VH (infiniti q45 v-8).

I like them all besides the SR, mainly because I like bang for your buck.

[Delerium]

I got my engine off of Craigslist but I wouldnt recommend doing it that way. I did that because I ran out of options and needed an engine quick. Any engine you get make sure you check cylinder compression. 185 is where you want to be close to and no fluctuation in cylinder compression +- 5. Check the engine for signs of leaking and look in the exhaust manifold for signs of oil that may be coming from the engine. pull the spark plugs and check for oil or fouled in general. Thats what I did myself and I should know if it worked or not by tomorrow.

[480sx]

The KA can get upward of 400 horsepower without having to change any internals and it's easy and cheap.

None of this is true. After 350 hp, people start bending rods and throwing them through the block.

Turbocharging a Ka motor for >225 hp is never easy. You have to change everything. There are NO cheap viable options for tuning at the moment besides an old school RRFMU and stock injectors, which is seriously limited.