what can the stock 240 beat?

Post by **scuba_sean** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

ok, ive taken my car (1990 KA24E) to the track once, and raced on the street once or twice, but they were no contest (neon, and 4cyl mustang etc...) i wanna know what it will beat, in particular, my buddys 2000 Chez Cavaleir Z24. its gonna be close, but has anyone done it? thanks

Post by **yeswepromise** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

im sure you could probably beat many cars but keep it on the track friend.

Post by **Lepchitz1** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

there are no 4cyl mustangs...and yes it will beat a z24

Post by **scuba_sean** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

actually there are, 4cyl stangs, they only made them in the 80's versions that looked like messed up capris. they are 2.3L's.

Post by **scuba_sean** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

in the 240sx.org FAQ? whats it called?

Post by **keepingthe240** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

There has been 4 bangers in mustangs from 74-93

scuba_sean wrote:actually there are, 4cyl stangs, they only made them in the 80's versions that looked like messed up capris. they are 2.3L's.

Post by **Syntax360** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

My girlfriend owns a 1993 mustang LX and it's a 4 banger....so slow. My 240 is stock and it can eat most of the typical ricer Honda cars, a variety of v6 mustangs, some camaros, mostly other v6 and i4's that are close to stock. but then mine's a ka24de too. i raced almost new z24 (not z28 :-P woops) on the interstate and he bowed a lil over 100. it was pretty nice, too (body kit, neat exhaust....dun know what else)

Post by **240_Keyy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

Good luck trying to beat the Z24. Assuming that it is a standard or has an ATI on an auto transmission, he will eat you for luch if he can drive. My other car is a Z24 and it was faster than my stock '90 240 from a stop when I had the ATI on it.

But now the transmission is dead and the Cav hasn't moved in over a month

Post by **Structure240sx** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

http://home.fuse.net/camaro396/times.html use this as a reference of course factors like engine condtion and driver skill play a big part

Post by **scuba_sean** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

i think the z24 and i are gonna be pretty darn close. its a standard, but they have only 4 or five more hp than us, and its a front wheel drive. i have a limited slip diff, so im ill get the holeshot on him. (by the way, its a newer 2.4L z24, not the older 3.1L V6, fr other friend has one of those, and its faster)

Post by **scuba_sean** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

hey syntax360, what year is your car?

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

I think the Z24 is probably faster. Even if it is the 2.4L ecotec motor. It'll be close though.

Oh, and there were some turbocharged I-4 mustangs too. Kinda cool, but only cuz it's different.

Post by **Syntax360** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

1991 S13 fastback, 1993 engine (dunno why...b4 i had it)....no real mods...just 360 degree filter and 300zx fuel pump...backseat gone (it's a joke anyway)...pretty much it....but it tends to rape a lot of the cars in this town

Post by **Syntax360** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

oh ya....it's a KA24DE, not the KA24E

Post by **Former_240_s14** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

my bro has a caviler with the z24 motor in it. its an auto, watch out for them, they are very quick, but as long as you can drive, I think you will have an edge.

Post by **syka24et** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

Isnt the z24 lighter with just about the same horsepower?? The z might give you a good run.

Post by **240_Keyy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

LOL!!!!!! You guys are nuts! But then again I wouldn't expect you to know much about J-Bodies...

I on the other hand, do know a lot about J bodies and I would just like to point out a few little things...

Scuba: The 2.4TC in the Z24 is rated at 150hp and 155tq, I have seen bone stock Z24's dyno at 137 to the ground. The 3.1v6 is not faster in the older Z24's because those cars were much heavier. A 3rd gen Z24 is faster than the 2nd gen Z24 by like 3/4 of a second.

EZ Cheese: The Ecotec is a 2.2TC, not a 2.4

Former_240_S14: They don't make a Z24 engine, just the 2.4TC that is also in alero's and other crap cars. There have been a number of different engines in the Z24 so there is no specific one.

Syka24et: Exactly, it is a lighter car with more horsepower and if the guy in the Z24 can drive, he will win.

Peace out yall

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

240_Keyy wrote:LOL!!!!!! You guys are nuts! But then again I wouldn't expect you to know much about J-Bodies...

EZ Cheese: The Ecotec is a 2.2TC, not a 2.4

Yeah, somewhere deep down in my head, I actually knew that. But you are right about the first comment, atleast for me, I don't know a much about them, I admit it.

Post by **Siddhartha** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

Ford also made a turbo four called the mustang SVO . . .

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

Siddhartha wrote:Ford also made a turbo four called the mustang SVO . . .

Yeah, actually I made a comment about that in another thread somewhere. Some guy posted that he didn't think Ford made a 4 cylinder mustang.

Post by **scuba_sean** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

the friend of mine thats gonna race me in the z24 weighed his ca and it weighs 1450kg, and my car (1990 ka24e),, was 1350kg on a full tank of gas

Post by **super_hicas** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

Lepchitz1 wrote:there are no 4cyl mustangs...and yes it will beat a z24

beat me to it. 4cyl mustangs lol:D

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

super_hicas wrote:beat me to it. 4cyl mustangs lol:D

Yo, read the rest of thread next time...

There *ARE* 4 cylinder mustangs

Post by **nissansilvia89** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

yea they did make 4cyl mustangs turboed (SVO'S)..fast as hell thats all i gotta say

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

ha ha cavaliers are slow as s### any 240 should be able to beat them. i raced a new stock auto mustang gt the other night and beat it beat it by 4 car lengths w my s14

Post by **Structure240sx** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

are you sure he was trying? cuz with mods you should be no more than side by side with him unless the autos add about 1.5 sec on the 1/4 for them.

Post by **jmillheiser** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

ford autos suck. they add more than a mere 1.5 sec on 0-60 or 1/4 times.

a cav z24 vs an s13 would be close. it would be more a case of driver skill.

the ecotecs are better engines than the old 2.4TCs but in terms of acceleration they are about even. the ecotec is lighter, has better gearing(they went with a shorter geared transmission on the ecotec cars), and revs higher but gives up 10 hp on the 2.4

the 60 degree v6 (the 2.8 and 3.1 that were used in the older cars) is pretty tame stock but can be taken over 200hp easily.

BTW i do know the 60 degree GM v6s quite well

Post by **240_Keyy** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

yes, a Z24 with a good driver can reach down to the mid to low 15's

Best I can get out of my ka24e is a 16.5

Post by **derknuts** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

ka should not be in there at all sr20det is what was intended

Post by **gibbo80** » Sun Jan 05, 2003 2:27 pm

ya if that cavi has a good driver he has a good 1/2 second to a second on you in the quater. You will get smoked bad.

what can the stock 240 beat?

what can the stock 240 beat?

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