What are you using for...?

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
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IowaRB240SX
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Ignition and engine management? I will be running a t3/t4 turbo with 550cc injectors at 18-20 psi boost. Need these things to get it to run right.


Joe
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how much money do you want to spend?

SAFC vs. EMS is like 2 different worlds

also, for future refrence please put a more descriptive title. it helps for people searching down the road. something like "fuel managment with upgraded turbo" and such.

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I plan on going Microtech unless carl has good news about bikirom in time.

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eh?
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aem ems.You should buy my Apexi power fc...

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eh? wrote:aem ems.You should buy his Apexi power fc...
i have the same setup your gonna be getting too

T4 RB25det
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I am running a Eprom that my freind made. It uses the GM blow through maf instead of the pre turbo thing. and it uses the same interface as the EMS, does the same thing also. I am running 18psi pump gas and 25psi on c16 with no problems

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eh?
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Your chipped ecu can run Any sensor from any car on any system you want? Does it have boost control? Nitrous control? Defineable knock control? Automapping? traction control? wideband o2 closed loop? ect etc..If it does your friend could make a lot of money selling that eeprom here.

T4 RB25det
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eh? wrote:Your chipped ecu can run Any sensor from any car on any system you want? Does it have boost control? Nitrous control? Defineable knock control? Automapping? traction control? wideband o2 closed loop? ect etc..If it does your friend could make a lot of money selling that eeprom here.
it runs off of the Blow through MAF. it can do wideband closed loop, knock control, automapping, but it can not control nitrus or boost.I told him he could make alot of money selling it, since its not expensive to make, but it takes a while to wire, and its a pain in the *** to make. I might get directions on how to do it and try it out. from the looks of it, it will take a long time to get it right.Its not really a chip either, its a modual that runs off of the ECU, looks almost like another ecu hooked up to it. the laptop plugs in and you tune it off of that

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sounds interesting, making it run closed loop off a wideband, do you put in a specific a/f ratio for it to achieve at a certain vac/tps position and it reads it and alters the feul injectors as necessary? hmm interesting... i think i'll probably be runnin bikirom if someone can prove it works with the rb20 ecu and not the bastard rb25 ecu (although it should)

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used to run a Haltech but now have a FAST both with msd DIS4 and GM 2 tower coil packs

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Carl H
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T4 RB25det wrote:it runs off of the Blow through MAF. it can do wideband closed loop, knock control, automapping, but it can not control nitrus or boost.I told him he could make alot of money selling it, since its not expensive to make, but it takes a while to wire, and its a pain in the *** to make. I might get directions on how to do it and try it out. from the looks of it, it will take a long time to get it right.Its not really a chip either, its a modual that runs off of the ECU, looks almost like another ecu hooked up to it. the laptop plugs in and you tune it off of that
sounds more like the biki board.......

T4 RB25det
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Carl H wrote:sounds more like the biki board.......
could you give me a link? because i honestly dont know what this really is, all i know is how to use ti and what it does. But i have never seen anything like it.

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Carl H
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http://www.bikirom.comhowever it could be one of the many devices that you can use to tweak the stock ecu.stock ecu is very good at controling high powered motors, lots of cars in japan pushing insane numbers on stock ecu's that have been retuned.

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Nice topic title. So let's say I'm interested in engine management for the RB. I go to the search page and type in "engine management" and look in the RB Forum for topic titles. Guess what I don't get? THIS THREAD. Because it's got some stupid, irrelevant topic title "What are you using for....?" Same thing when I look under the main RB forum page.

So what we have is a thread with loads of useful info provided by patient members of NICO that does not come up under a title search for "engine management." Ironic that these types of threads are started by people like you, IowaRB240SX, who either do not search before posting or complain that they searched but couldn't find anything.

Go figure.

T4 RB25det
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Carl H wrote:http://www.bikirom.comhowever it could be one of the many devices that you can use to tweak the stock ecu.stock ecu is very good at controling high powered motors, lots of cars in japan pushing insane numbers on stock ecu's that have been retuned.
looking at the link i dont thatink thats it since my car has been running since march with the box i have now and the bikki board was sold starting in august

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ive read the bikirom website quite a bit, but i still dont understand fully how you plug it in, do you solder it onto the ecu? or is it like conzult where it plugs into a plug in the interior harness? and you dont pul the prom out each time to change it right? you just hook it up to a computer and change it through the software on the computer? kinda like ash's Zemulator?

T4 RB25det
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Mine works through a computer, it might be the bikkii board thing im not really sure. but you dont have to pull it out to tune, and you dont need to burn a new chip every time either

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eh?
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Your Ecu is a R32 rb25de type? I guess only the r33 rb25det's were screwed with the un-modable (easily) ecu.

T4 RB25det
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its almost like a piggy back system, The ecu is chipped and socketed. if you are familiar with hondas, this is about the same thing as hondata. it has the capability of a full standalone and could be considered one, but still keeps the stock ecu. I still dont know what it is, but thats the best way i can discribe this thing

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eh? wrote:Your Ecu is a R32 rb25de type? I guess only the r33 rb25det's were screwed with the un-modable (easily) ecu.
no he has a r32 rb25de+t so he has a 27c256 based ecu.right?

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eh?
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the problem for us is that the R33 rb25 ecu cannot be chipped as easily as the RB20. And if you look, there aren't any daughter boards for the rb25det. I've heard of attempting to use a 300zx ecu but it's will be cheaper to just go with a power fc.

T4 RB25det
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Carl H wrote:no he has a r32 rb25de+t so he has a 27c256 based ecu.right?
yes sir

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I chip my ecu myself and use a safc2 to tweak the maps

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IowaRB240SX
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Well, I have a nismo chipped ecu, so a SAFC2 will suffice?

Sorry for the bad thread title, didn't know that guys that want horsepower out of their cars could be such babies. Try driving a Yugo next time if you want something to cry about .

T4 RB25det
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I didnt know a person who would be calling other people babies would ***** so much....

anyway what motor is this? you never even told us if it was an rb20, rb25, rb26, rb30

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i'm using the Haltech E-11...i'm using it for a long time, also use it on my old SR...

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IowaRB240SX
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rb25 motor


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