What are the best sounding exhausts?
What are the best sounding exhausts?
Can you guys tell me what the different exhausts from companies like Apex, HKS, and Jun sound like? Particuarly, which exhaust has the deepest sound? I know this has been asked before and I tried the search but couldnt find anything.
Well, when you buy exhaust, you have to consider one important thing. Piping size is vital. Anything 2.5" and under is more for a Naturally Aspirated engine (w/o a turbo or supercharger), and anything larger is typically used for forced induction setups. It has been argued for ages that this is BS, but I believe it is true. Also, the larger the piping, the louder the exhaust.
I have teh HKS Hiper, which is 2.5", and it's pretty loud. The N1 (3") is good exhaust, but very loud, and you lose power on the lower rpms. The HKS Sport R2 (2.5") is just barely louder than stock.
I like my HKS, its good stuffz. Expensive, though.
Nick.
I have teh HKS Hiper, which is 2.5", and it's pretty loud. The N1 (3") is good exhaust, but very loud, and you lose power on the lower rpms. The HKS Sport R2 (2.5") is just barely louder than stock.
I like my HKS, its good stuffz. Expensive, though.
Nick.
95silviase wrote:The n1 is what i'm gettin for my '95. you can get two different pipe sizes. 3" for turbo, and smaller for NA setup. i don't know how big the NA piping is, but i kno it ain't no 3". probably 2 1/2 or something.
I called A'Pexi and they told me the only N1 system for an S13 is a 3" exhaust. I don't know about the s14. That's what they told me.
Nick.
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Zebrahead wrote:I called A'Pexi and they told me the only N1 system for an S13 is a 3" exhaust. I don't know about the s14. That's what they told me.
Nick.
how'd you get ahold of them? i looked for a phone number or e-mail adress for them on their site and didnt' see anything. unless you called one of the dealers....i guess i could just do that couldn't i.
Is this 3 in? http://w1.igateway.com/clients...=form
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this isn't the only reason, or the most important, but i'm gonna go ahead and type it cause its shorter. its to much trouble for me. ok ok fine, i'll type it all. i would rather buy the full cat-back w/ piping and everything, just because the company knows that that piping is what goes along w/ that muffler the best. i want the most out of my exhaust, so i'm gonna leave it up to the company i buy it from to make the best decision.
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thats understandable.. i dont mean to argue... yes im sure the companies that make the parts do know the specs for the car.. but i feel its just as good at a shop thats proven itself on the track as is the company. But... we all go our different routes so its cool :pface btw... it only took like a day to weld, put in, tune, and it sounds bomb a** on the RX7. no trouble at all heh. :beerchug
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Ok, so I revived a dead thread again, at least I didn't post a new topic that says: exhaust help, right? Well, I want the Apex N1 turbo muffler, but I plan to stay N/A. Don't tell me it is ricer, just tell me if it will be too loud or not. Should I get different size piping or just stick with the stock piping?
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Good luck finding the N1 dual! I ordered it from a local shop to help support this guy... he's one of many local shops.. and the only one I like. He orders direct from the Apexi company, and well, a week after I order it.. they tell him it's on back order..... WTF?! (maybe he forgot to order it) Anyway I'm pissed and I start looking around online... Heavy Throttle is the only place I could find them in stock. They SAID that they only have 2 left... not sure if I believe them. I checked two other local parts stores and I got the same, "back order" story. Anyway I ordered it and I'm paying $50 more than I would have paid locally... shipping charges suck. The point is they seem to be on back order from the factory.. so you have to find it from a dealer that has them on hand.
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I'm with waycrew on this one.
I have a bruellen DTM style exhaust. Everyone tells me it sounds nice, a low, deep grumble with no rattles or crap like that.
I went to a good exhaust shop near my work, recomended by co-workers (I work at a car dealer). I got a custom pipe welded on from the resonator muffler back, 2.25" (stock width on s14).
Everyone tells me my exhaust is REALLY loud, but I have heard louder. i can only imagine what it would sound like if I did a cat back 2.5" piping, I don't need the attention, and am very happy with my muffler. I know i gained a couple ponies because the car revs right to redline without a problem, but it didn't make a neck braking difference.
Ben, I agree with you somewhat. The big companies put alot of R&D into their products, agreed. But with a cat back system, you might score what, 4 HP max on an N/A application? Not really worth the price IMO if you are going for HP. If you're going for style or brand name quality, then to each his own. Not trying to battle, just giving you my side of it.
The guys at the exhaust place made me a new pipe, welded it on with hangers and even put a rustproof spray over the pipes and muffler, all within my 1 hour lunch break. My exhaust cost me $330 Canadian, like $190 US or so, and that included my install, piping and muffler,although I was in the right place at the right time to score my muffler at that price!
Pipe looks great, sounds better, and performs well considering I took the mild route in terms of performance, I am very happy with my choice.
And if you are going to go turbo within 2 years or so, then its really not worth the money to spend cash on an N/A exhaust now, because it will have to be upgraded once the turbo goes in, waste of cash IMO. Thats another reason why I didn't spend big coin on my exhaust this time around.
I have a bruellen DTM style exhaust. Everyone tells me it sounds nice, a low, deep grumble with no rattles or crap like that.
I went to a good exhaust shop near my work, recomended by co-workers (I work at a car dealer). I got a custom pipe welded on from the resonator muffler back, 2.25" (stock width on s14).
Everyone tells me my exhaust is REALLY loud, but I have heard louder. i can only imagine what it would sound like if I did a cat back 2.5" piping, I don't need the attention, and am very happy with my muffler. I know i gained a couple ponies because the car revs right to redline without a problem, but it didn't make a neck braking difference.
Ben, I agree with you somewhat. The big companies put alot of R&D into their products, agreed. But with a cat back system, you might score what, 4 HP max on an N/A application? Not really worth the price IMO if you are going for HP. If you're going for style or brand name quality, then to each his own. Not trying to battle, just giving you my side of it.
The guys at the exhaust place made me a new pipe, welded it on with hangers and even put a rustproof spray over the pipes and muffler, all within my 1 hour lunch break. My exhaust cost me $330 Canadian, like $190 US or so, and that included my install, piping and muffler,although I was in the right place at the right time to score my muffler at that price!
Pipe looks great, sounds better, and performs well considering I took the mild route in terms of performance, I am very happy with my choice.
And if you are going to go turbo within 2 years or so, then its really not worth the money to spend cash on an N/A exhaust now, because it will have to be upgraded once the turbo goes in, waste of cash IMO. Thats another reason why I didn't spend big coin on my exhaust this time around.
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maineimport wrote:Good luck finding the N1 dual! I ordered it from a local shop to help support this guy... he's one of many local shops.. and the only one I like. He orders direct from the Apexi company, and well, a week after I order it.. they tell him it's on back order..... WTF?! (maybe he forgot to order it) Anyway I'm pissed and I start looking around online... Heavy Throttle is the only place I could find them in stock. They SAID that they only have 2 left... not sure if I believe them. I checked two other local parts stores and I got the same, "back order" story. Anyway I ordered it and I'm paying $50 more than I would have paid locally... shipping charges suck. The point is they seem to be on back order from the factory.. so you have to find it from a dealer that has them on hand.
That sucks for you, I ordered my exhaust two weeks ago from a new shop called Stage in Kirkland WA, it got there 5 days later and they installed in on my car the same day it came in.
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Nis240sanSX wrote:I just bought a muffler, it kinda looks like an N1 and has a silencer, I think I'm gonna get it welded on with 2.25" piping from the cat-back, does this sound like a good idea? I'll probably being going turbo in a year or so though, so I don't know. Any Ideas?
Sounds like a good idea, but........
since you are going turbo in about a year or so, why don't you wait. I mean, a turbo set up, you will need at least 2.5" to 4", depending on how wild you are going! What is the inlet width on the muffler? If you really need to replace your current muffler NOW, then just get it welded on, save the extra cash for your next exhaust system.
Or, if you have money to burn, do the cat back system that you suggested, take it off in a year and sell it used (you'll be lucky to get half of your cash back) and start all over with a turbo exhaust (much more expensive than the N/A exhaust, from what I have seen).
good luck Nis
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This might help you you make up your mind.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/mys14_240sx/
I just figured out how to get the videos to download off my page(i'm the smartest man alive.!.!.!.!.):)
The exhaust is an Apexi Dual N1 series. Its not my car but is sounds the same. You'll need speakers that can produce some bass to get the true sound of the exhaust.
Enjoy
http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/mys14_240sx/
I just figured out how to get the videos to download off my page(i'm the smartest man alive.!.!.!.!.):)
The exhaust is an Apexi Dual N1 series. Its not my car but is sounds the same. You'll need speakers that can produce some bass to get the true sound of the exhaust.
Enjoy