Went to the strip, dissapointed

[ryan15]

Please read everything so I dont get asked questions that answers are stated in my post

SO I went to the drag strip a few miles from my house. I only managed to pull off 13.8 @ 103mph, 2.3 60ft`s all night, I would launch the car and wouldnt go 100% throttle in first because of to much wheel spin. I think this seems a little low for my mods, and my car seems to be running perfect.

basically heres the lay outs14 se w/ vlsd options13 blacktop550 injectorsrom tunes14 t28fmicmbc @ 13lbs3" turbo back, gutted stock catz32 mafNGK G-power plugs (needed plugs right then and there)1g dsm bov recirc`d91 octane gasbase timing at 15btdcno boost leaks Walbro 255 fuel pump

So I think I covered everything that matters. My car is roughly 2700lbs with an empty tank. I think part of it might have been the weather conditions, 95-100 degrees, 50% humidity, and track is roughly 1500ft elevation, which are all key factors in performance.

I was wondering if this is what I should expect out of my setup, I am looking for high 12`s with a 2.1 60ft and a 109-112mph trap at around 15-16lbs, I cant turn it over 13 right now unfortunatly because it pings, I think due to weather and the tune being a japanese tune for higher octane.

Thank you for your help.

Ryan

[Emperor_Tha]

That's fast for a 2.3 60ft. All u need is better traction at launch. I think if u can get atleast a 2.0 60ft u can do a 13.2-13.4

[nzmoman]

try some octane booster, or throw in some E85...

what is your suspension setup...are you running coilovers? if you make sure your suspension is dialed in for drag you should run low thirteens easy, and strip the car out and I bet you can get the 12's you want.

Sadly (maybe not you) but I have seen a ton of 240s buying all these drifting parts and wondering why they don't get good times. They run tons of neg camber, coil overs set too hard and over pressurize their tires and then wonder why they don't get good times.

[jaco]

tires! meng drag radials* low pressurer!!! what r you launching at?

[ryan15]

I am actually running kyb agx shocks with skunk2 springs on them, pretty good setup for drag compared to coilovers. I am launching at 3500rpms usually, slipping the clutch of course. Sadly enough even know I am not a drifter by any means, im running 225/45/17 (got them all for free) Zexius tires on a 9.5 inch wheel all around, crappy tires, so I am way scared to drop the tire pressure below factory specs.

Basically I am just really dissapointed in my trap mph, according to some online calculators, my trap sets me at 240hp at the flywheel, I have seen people get 270whp on my setup.

Can things like ambient temperature, humidity, elevation and my stock gutted cat really be holding me back that much?

Edit: Also I am within stock specs all around with alignment, im close but still within factory.

[jaco]

i still think its gonna come from your launch&rt and yea taking pressure out of your current rubbers wont do much of corse sr's respond alllot better in cooler air but get a good set of drag/rads and i think you ll be impressed. just my 2cent...

[Emperor_Tha]

get a j30 3.9 rear and some better tires

I'm running 215/45/17 nitto neo-gen @ 30 psi with 5 sec stagging burn out and I launch at 6k with no tire spin

[nzmoman]

get a j30 3.9 rear and some better tires

I'm running 215/45/17 nitto neo-gen @ 30 psi with 5 sec stagging burn out and I launch at 6k with no tire spin

is there anything else about your setup... are you running anything special in the suspension...traction bars, collars, driveshaft?...

[Emperor_Tha]

is there anything else about your setup... are you running anything special in the suspension...traction bars, collars, driveshaft?...

Shaft master alum d/shaftStock flywheelUnsprung 6 puckEnergy suspensionKyb strutsTien s spring

[Kalypso]

^ you have the t28,so keep it.

but its a timid turbo for drag.

[srdub-t]

That's fast for a 2.3 60ft. All u need is better traction at launch. I think if u can get atleast a 2.0 60ft u can do a 13.2-13.4

thats a low trap for what you have.... i trapped 110 mph on a t28 at 9 psi... i also had bc 264 cams and 4.11 gears tho

[Emperor_Tha]

^ you have the t28,so keep it.

but its a timid turbo for drag.

Me? Umm t25. Just a pocket rocket

[ryan15]

thats a low trap for what you have.... i trapped 110 mph on a t28 at 9 psi... i also had bc 264 cams and 4.11 gears tho

Alright I got some usefull opinions out of this thread... I think I am going to rig up a new boost leak tester and find whats going on... My car used to pull alot harder when the temps were cooler, once I moved here it feels pretty slow. I will do a burnout before running and maybe try a new chip with a known good ignition map.

Also to the person I quoted, you had cooler temps most likely and you drive a lighter s13 im assuming which makes since why you trapped higher.

Ryan

[spooled240]

you never know, on a warmer day your tune may be retarding the timing or something to keep the detonation down, are you running a fmic?

I have a ka-t on 10 psi and I did a 13.8 @106 with a 2.2 60' time, my tire spin in 1st was too much even for the 245/45/16. BUT I had 35psi in my tires and negative camber so I can't complain.

Next time I plan to lower the tire pressure to 20 psi and slip the clutch more on the take off, that should help with the 60'.

[ryan15]

Haha of course I am, my mod list is at the top. Weird you pulled the same time with higher trap and lower 60ft?

[spooled240]

I don't know how I missed that

but that is weird, my 3rd gear was grinding pretty bad on some runs so shifting was delayed 2nd to 3rd

[Sil80315]

I ran a 13.6 with s13 redtop stock injectors stock maf stock turbo (t25) with 2.0 60 foot and 104 trap ant 15psi. car had full interior and heavy sport max wheels and no lsd.

[mistamacadamian]

lol...ok well yes with a 2.0 60ft i pulled a 13@106 on radials...on a t25 stock KA-T. so put some radials on that and trap will be higher along with a .2/.3 off your time. agh...im too drunk too rip on people who ***** bout times they ran at they track when they are running a t28...what is this world coming too....sell the t28, get a 57 trim, make good spool and numbers and trap higher than that 110 your trying to run. dont expect a 112 trap with a s14 turbo. and if its been dopne o freakin well it wont last that long boosting what it does along with the cost for supporting mods.

[kentuckyslider]

First of all ryan, get you some 235/60/15 MT ET drag radials and you will pull 1.7-1.8 60ft all day long. If you have a LSD? That alone will put you in the 12's. The heat and elevation will hurt your times more than you think. My car is .3 faster in the 50-60 deg. range than 80-90deg. I can't break out of the 12's when it's hot but I can run 11.7-11.8@115+ when it's cool. Get you some drag radials and wait for a cool day this fall and go back to the track. I guarantee a pass in the 12's!

mistamac and emperor_THA what are your best times in the 1/4? What 57 trim are you speaking of?
Modified by kentuckyslider at 2:52 PM 10/5/2008

[Emperor_Tha]

13.5 @ 104 2.0 60ft in AprilT25 @ 7Avg 13.6-13.8 @ 101-102 2.060ft in JulyT25 @ 7Best 60ft was 1.8 did a 14.3 @ 85 let offin third cuz clutch was slipping cuz it wasn't warm up

Hoping for 12.9 @ 14-15 psi on t25

[ryan15]

First of all ryan, get you some 235/60/15 MT ET drag radials and you will pull 1.7-1.8 60ft all day long. If you have a LSD? That alone will put you in the 12's. The heat and elevation will hurt your times more than you think. My car is .3 faster in the 50-60 deg. range than 80-90deg. I can't break out of the 12's when it's hot but I can run 11.7-11.8@115+ when it's cool. Get you some drag radials and wait for a cool day this fall and go back to the track. I guarantee a pass in the 12's!

mistamac and emperor_THA what are your best times in the 1/4? What 57 trim are you speaking of?

Modified by kentuckyslider at 2:52 PM 10/5/2008

Thanks, your actually the one person i wanted to get a reply out of in this thread, haha. DR`s are in the plans in a few months.

[240lab]

i have ruffly the same setup as you cant wait to see what your capable of. but one thing i wanted to reply on was do not use e85 in your car. your fuel lines,pump ect... are not ment to handle the corrosive nature of the ethanol.

[Sil80315]

took my friends hatch to the track today.. we got it down to a 13.42 with a 2.1 60ft and 105.3 trap.

Car Specs92 hatchs13 blacktopMegan exhaust manifold, turbo elbow, downpipeTurbo XS boost controllerHks bovstance coiloversOld school enkie rims 16x7full interiorGreddy FMICSpec stage 2 clutchoff brand street radials.