Welding a stock rear dif???

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so how hard is it to weld a stock rear dif?


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Easy

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honestly if your not intelligent enough to use the big read flashing search button i wouldnt attempt welding a diff. take it to a quality shop. its cheap enough. not something you want to mess around with

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Like Folkert said, take it to some one who knows how to weld properly. You don't want those welds breaking and locking the rear end up while you're driving.

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yeah def im just tryin to figure out the best way to get my car to lay tracks. i dont have the money for vlsd so im think i might weld my dif and deal with the squealin wheels around turns.

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on my first 240 i had the diff welded, for the same reason as you mentioned (just for fun)...hence first 240 ($300.00 car) parking lots late at night were a blast. broke the welds refused to spend the same amount/more on an VLSD than i paid for the car. rewelded and lasted for the duration til car was sold...wrecked 2 weeks later! if you have welding skills it would be fairly easy if no welding skills get a seasoned welder to do it. i purchased J30 diff for $55.00 from the junkyard (i had to take it off though). the squealing around corners was quite embarrassing at some times, but this was a beater. life is good with twin tracks behind you. gl

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Z_OMSIN wrote:broke the welds refused to spend the same amount/more on an VLSD than i paid for the car. rewelded and lasted for the duration til car was sold...wrecked 2 weeks later! if you have welding skills it would be fairly easy if no welding skills get a seasoned welder to do it.
sounds like you shouldnt be welding any diffs either.

op if your not 100% positive you can do it properly then dont even try it. if you weld it wrong it can break and cause you to wreck your can and possibly into others or objects.

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its easy to weld a diff but why? tire wear and drivability goes to sh**. U can pick up a VLSD cheap enuf but if u want it welded take it to a muffler shop. they should have a skilled welder so just show him where and how u need the spider gears welded

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s13drifter88 wrote:its easy to weld a diff but why? tire wear and drivability goes to sh**.

dont even start with that. if you want to discuss why you should or shouldnt get a welded diff go to the welded diff discussion thread. the op wants to weld a diff and im sure he has done his research on it.

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Welding a differential is always bad to me. Just buy one and never worry about welds breaking... It doesnt matter if a professional is welding the diff, anything can happen. Everyone freaks out and tells them to spend the extra money and get a reputable name brand when someone mentions cheap coilovers from china because its important since its your suspension yet everyone is talking about welding a differential..... Its not meant to be welded.... Get a Kaaz 2 way or a Nismo 2 way, done.

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NismoS13Ks wrote:Welding a differential is always bad to me. Just buy one and never worry about welds breaking... It doesnt matter if a professional is welding the diff, anything can happen. Everyone freaks out and tells them to spend the extra money and get a reputable name brand when someone mentions cheap coilovers from china because its important since its your suspension yet everyone is talking about welding a differential..... Its not meant to be welded.... Get a Kaaz 2 way or a Nismo 2 way, done.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY YOU DONT LIKE THE WELDED DIFF, DO IT HERE!!

the-welded-differential-discussion-ques ... lit=welded

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as previously stated, it's not hard to weld one, I just wouldn't recommend doing it yourself for actual use. what you could do is go to a junkyard or something and get a spare open diff and practice on it. if you like the way the welds are, put it in your car with a spare open diff in case your welds break.
but imo, just take it to a shop and have them weld it.
it's not too expensive and they know how to weld properly lol

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i don't believe s13drifter88 has a welded diff...
the comment about drivability and tires going to s*** is bogus.

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just get a j30 diff from a junkyard.... it'll be like 80 bucks....

But like everyone else said, make sure the welds are done proper.

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well ur right, i dont have one (anymore). u try driving on a curvy country road or mountain road and pay attention to the car. the back keeps wanting to walk out with u when accelerating thru a turn. when u turn, the outside rear wheel has to travel farther than the inside wheel. if its welded then that means theyre both locked together and have to both turn the same number of revolutions. if one wheel doesnt give and u maintain equivalent rotation thru the turn then that means the energy has to go somewhere else right, so its either going to try to push the car forward instead of steering or its going to try to step out with u during hard cornering. gentle driving its fine to an extent but the weld surge when turning into a parking lot or space, the tire noise, poor tire wear, and lack of u-joint life in the driveshaft dont out-way the pro's of having the "prefect drift diff"

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and i agree with nismos13ks. pick up a kaaz or a OS Giken. we all like to brag and harp about tein and ksport and hks coilovers that cost upwards of a grand, why dont we pay the same attention to our diffs. i had a welded coz i blew out my stock diff and had to use a friends welded that was in my garage... HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE. it was phenominal on the track, i just hated the drive there and back.
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sorry but how exactly do you agree with me.. everything you stated is 100% opposite of how i feel... im completely lost

i love my welded diff. i have ridden in a 2 way lsd 240 and it feels the same as the welded. i hate the vlsd its a waste unless you dont drift/burnout/do doughnuts. welded is the way to go. even on a mountain road in the rain! (just not with bald tires lol)

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my apologies, i agreed with the wrong person, i corrected it. when i drifted with the welded i loved it. i hated driving with it, the car just never felt the same, it didnt corner as positive as it did open. i love my OS Giken 2 way, it feels nothing like a welded. maybe it will if u dont install properly and i wont say people havnt had a bad experience with one either but after going from a welded and wearing thru tires and u joints i wont ever have it again. the car drove like a**, an s13 on kyb agx's with eibach sportline springs with a complete energy poly bushing kit aligned to .1+ toe, 1*- camber and 0 caster should not drive like a**. i swapped the diff for my OSG and my headache was gone. if the welded works for somebody else then more power to them and im happy they enjoy it but in my opinion id steer away from weld and just save up for a good clutch type diff.
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If you can find a used 2 way for cheap, get that. If you're going to daily your car at all, get a 2 way.

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s13drifter88 wrote:and i agree with motoman. pick up a kaaz or a OS Giken. we all like to brag and harp about tein and ksport and hks coilovers that cost upwards of a grand, why dont we pay the same attention to our diffs. i had a welded coz i blew out my stock diff and had to use a friends welded that was in my garage... HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE. it was phenominal on the track, i just hated the drive there and back.
I think alot of people dont spend to much money on there diff because lsds get alot of wear. Who wants to spend so much money on something that wont last

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Ur exactly right, they do wear. So why would u spend alot of money on z32 brakes with expensive pads and expensive drilled/slotted rotors, theyre gonna wear out too. If u have a 450-500+hp sr/rb and u compete in formula drift then yeah, after about a season from that merciless beating its going to be pretty worn. Ive had myh OSG for over a year tho, drive 60+ miles round trip each day just to school and then another 20 round trip to and from work and my OSG is just as smooth as glass and locks up the very instant i break traction. Depending on what u do will determin the life span of it.

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s13drifter88 wrote:Ur exactly right, they do wear. So why would u spend alot of money on z32 brakes with expensive pads and expensive drilled/slotted rotors, theyre gonna wear out too. If u have a 450-500+hp sr/rb and u compete in formula drift then yeah, after about a season from that merciless beating its going to be pretty worn. Ive had myh OSG for over a year tho, drive 60+ miles round trip each day just to school and then another 20 round trip to and from work and my OSG is just as smooth as glass and locks up the very instant i break traction. Depending on what u do will determin the life span of it.
I agree with you that they can last, im just saying alot of people think they are going to wear out fast and they probably will if they dont keep up with the maintenance.

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ur exactly right. a clutch type diff requires more maint than a viscous or open/welded and thats where ppl hurt themselves. the dont properly service them and they dont perform the service in the proper intervals. when i didnt have the money to change my fluid one time a while back i didnt drive coz for a month coz every dollar of my money was going to tuition and i wasnt going to tear up a $1300 diff so i had to ground my CA and drive my rodeo... BLAHHH! :(

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if i had a car that i was going to build just for a drift car and trailer it to events then hell yeah id weld the diff coz i wouldnt buy another OSG to go tear it up. i bought an OSG so id have a high quality diff in my playtoy. For slide and slide only a welded is hard to beat, for the street i wont say they suck but there are much better alternatives

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s13drifter88 wrote:if i had a car that i was going to build just for a drift car and trailer it to events then hell yeah id weld the diff coz i wouldnt buy another OSG to go tear it up. i bought an OSG so id have a high quality diff in my playtoy. For slide and slide only a welded is hard to beat, for the street i wont say they suck but there are much better alternatives
Thats whats up :dblthumb:

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if you guys want to talk about why you dont like the welded diff, do it in the right thread. stop cluttering this one with garbage

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motoman399 wrote:if you guys want to talk about why you dont like the welded diff, do it in the right thread. stop cluttering this one with garbage


:argue: .............. :crybaby

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motoman399 wrote:if you guys want to talk about why you dont like the welded diff, do it in the right thread. stop cluttering this one with garbage
lol i like welded diffs :inoutgay:

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badbob2121 wrote:
motoman399 wrote:if you guys want to talk about why you dont like the welded diff, do it in the right thread. stop cluttering this one with garbage


:argue: .............. :crybaby
go take your sr20 waste of aluminum elsewhere

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sleek_240 wrote:so how hard is it to weld a stock rear dif?
he didnt want to know what you thought of welded diffs. so stop being douche bags about how you think they are so horrible.. nobody actually cares lol


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