weight distrubution with rb20/rb25

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I GOT MY 89 FASTBACK FOR $700 BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME REALIABILITY ISSUES AND I TALKED THE GUY DOWN. I GOT MY CLIP FOR $1200 PLUS $300 SHIPPING.

[MidnightSlide]

lol...no no no ... i was referring to PROJECTRB240SX's post, and pointing out the fact that he has an rb20, and not an rb25. And yeah how the heck do all of you get stuff for so damn cheap?!?

[PROJECTRB240SX]

I HAVE BOTHA RB25 AND A RB20 THE ENGINE WEIGHT DIFFERENT STRIPPED IS ABOUT 30LBS, WITH TURBOS ABOUT 40LBS AND WITH TRANSMISSION ABOUT 100-150LBS.

[MidnightSlide]

THEN DON'T BAG ON ANYONE WITH TH RB25 AND YOUR FRIEND REALLY SHOULDN'T TRY TO SWAY YOU FROM YOUR DECISION JUST INFORM YOU OF OTHER OPTIONS.

I never "bagged" on anyone with the RB motor... all i said was that there would be a signifigant weight difference on the front end... I duno where he got the rest of that from...maybe i was drunk when i said it, because i don't remember saying that rb motors are pieces of junk...oh wait .. i remeber having the argument over sr20 vs rb20 because i thought it would be a waste of time to have a heavier motor that was making the same amount of horsepower as the lighter one...

[PROJECTRB240SX]

BUT THE POSSIBILITIES FOR THE EXTRA TWO CYLINDERS ARE ENDLESS COMPARED TO THE FOUR. ITS ALSO HELPS SPOOL A TURBO FASTER, CAN BE STROKED UPTO 2.5L (WITH RB26 2.7L STROKER KIT. IT HAS FULL BOOST BY 3000RPM, A REALLY LATE REDLINE, SMOOTH STROKE, ALL KINDS OF HEAD COMBINATIONS, THE ABILITY TO MAKE CLOSE TO 1000HP IF NOT MORE, THE LIST OF POSSIBLITIES ARE ENDLESS AND IT OUT WEIGHS BY FAR THE EXTRA 100 OR SO POUNDS. OHH AND ONE PHRASE: IRON BLOCK

[JonPowell]

Nissan tested the RB bolck(I believe the RB26...) up to 1600 HP before the block cracked. That is kinda impressive if you ask me.

I wonder what the aluminum block started disintegrating at.....

[MidnightSlide]

yeah i know iron block , but i have never heard of an rb20 with 1000 hp .... are you sure about that one?

[PROJECTRB240SX]

ALL ITS TAKES IS MONEY AND TUNING. THE REASON THERE ARE RB20 IN THE 1000HP AREA IS BECAUSE EVERYONE JUST MOVES TO ANOTHER MOTOR (JUST LIKE WHY THERE ARE FEW HIGH HP KA24S AROUND). ALL THE RBS ARE DESIGNED THE SAME JUST CHANGED FOR APPLICATION.

[MidnightSlide]

i have heard of top secret(i think) pushing 800hp out of the sr motor... and that is VERY impressive to me...

[MidnightSlide]

yeah...hahah i have seen those 9 and 10 second 240's... those things are nutts!!! Wow talk about pushing limits....

[PROJECTRB240SX]

BUT THAT CAR IS MORE THAN LIKELY A DYNO SLUT AND NEVER SEE MUCH STREET DRIVING AT THAT POWER.

[MidnightSlide]

Well i have a video of it goin nutts down a street in japan...it is pretty cool... anyways... i think we have all established our points...

[PROJECTRB240SX]

YEAH, THIS ISN'T A DEBATE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GREAT MOTORS AND ITS LIKE I SAID THEY ALL HAVE SPECIFIC PURPOSES.

[MidnightSlide]

yeah... we could argue the good points of all of them for days lol... nice car man.. i really do like it from what you've said about it...hopefully everything continues to go well...

[PROJECTRB240SX]

YEAH WELL I'M TEETERING ON THE EDGE OF GETTING OUT OF ALL THIS TO SAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL TO ME.

YEAH ARGUING ABOUT WHAT MOTOR IS BETTER IS STUPID BECAUSE THERE IS NO BETTER MOTOR, EVERYTHING CAN BE REDESIGNED TO MEET NEEDS BUT THE ENIGNES INITIAL DESIGNS HAVE A PURPOSE EXCEPT FOR THE KA24 IN THE 240 (I STILL FEEL THAT NISSAN MADE A MISTAKE WITH THIS).

[JonPowell]

The alternative is that we would never get a 240SX at all. They did this because it is a tried and true motor that would pass emissions and provide a reliable (if lacking) powerplant. Look on the bright side, Nissan could have said screw it and not blessed us at all, like with the Skyline.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

YEAH TRUE BUT THE SR20 WAS ALSO IN CARS PASSING SO WAS NUMEROUS OTHER POWERFUL ENGINES THAT THEY COULD HAVE ADAPTED.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

HELL EVEN IF THEY PUT A VG30DE IN THERE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WAY BETTER CHOICE THAN THE KA24

[JonPowell]

You would have gotten the SR20DE, not andything special and not much low end torque, the KA at least has the kick down low.

[MidnightSlide]

that is very true... The ka makes it up hills without a problem, and has a nice power band down low.... it has next to no high end power though... It has been a good motor to me so far.. and I have even beaten many hondas on the street when i was in stock trim... that impressed me quite a bit. It even had enough power to drift it in certain situations...

[thephatone]

good we got our arugments settled, but does anyone know where they sell the jic alt2? for a reasonable price, also who can do my install in southern california? and maybe get the motor at it also?