weight distribution

[14.5drift]

Any body wheigh their 240 after swap? Rb guy says his is 46/56 in a s13, but I was wondering what the dist. would be after ca/sr swap.

[silver240]

i dont know but it cant change to much maybe + or - 3%. how much does the sr weigh.

[14.5drift]

what you talking bout mane

[quiksilvia]

the sr weighs 490 lbs, ka weighs 493, not much of a change, move the battery to the back and call it a day. this was discussed about a month ago, search for future questions first

[14.5drift]

How do you know it weighs that much?

[Hijacker]

the engines have been weighed in the past. quoted from the SCC swap article, "With the transmission, turbo, and alternator, the SR20DET weighs 490 lbs. The KA24E we removed weighed 493 lbs."

That number is with a SOHC engine, so the added weight of a DOHC KA might be plus a few more pounds pushing it to 495 -497. It's still a negligable amount of weight though. If you ask me, they're bothe freaking heavy engines to pick up with no harness. No fun

[Onizuka]

my stock redtop + transmission weighed 527 including the weight of the pallet and steel restraining straps, so 490 sound accurate. SR = 490lbs, KA + turbo weighs like 510-20lbs, RB25's weigh more like 650 lbs because of the massive transmission and large iron block.

[SRdave240]

My 89 hatch with SR weighs 2475. This is with a removed rear seat, no a/c, and no p/s.

[14.5drift]

Right, so a 2.4 L iron block weighs 4 lbs more than a 2.0 L alluminum block. Seems pointless to use such heavy alluminum dont you think.

[canadianwarship]

:thinker I know! Maybe the turbo &c. has some weight to it.

[crzycav86]

My 89 hatch with SR weighs 2475. This is with a removed rear seat, no a/c, and no p/s.

How hard is it to drive the car with no power steering?

I heard someone tell me that in order to get the feel of a car with no power steering, turn the car off while the car is rolling, and try to steer. Needless to say, it was really difficult. Is it really that difficult to drive with no power steering?

[quiksilvia]

at first its a lil more work, but i got used to it and i dont even think about it now.

[crzycav86]

..so it's not the same as steering with the engine off?... because there is no way driving it that way could be anything but annoyingly difficult.

[quiksilvia]

if u arent moving then u have to do all steering, at a little speed it gets easy

[SRdave240]

OK, I gotta clear up something. The SCC article is worded kinda funny and you have to read it closely to see what it is actually saying...

"Our engine, which came in a complete front clip, was an early red top with 60,000 kilometers on it. With the transmission, turbo and alternator, the SR20DET weighs 490 lbs. The KA24E we removed weighed 493 lbs. "

This means the KA24e block weighs as much as the SR block, transmission, turbo, and alternator.

Also, as far as power steering goes. It is not difficult once you remove the belt and vent the system.

[14.5drift]

This would make more sense, but still too bizarre. So now the ka weighs several hundred pounds more than the sr? The sr uses the same transmission, no?

[SRdave240]

No, the difference is about the weight of a transmission which is less than 100 lbs.

[Hijacker]

if u arent moving then u have to do all steering, at a little speed it gets easy

i remember on my tempo, i blew the serpentiine belt which was running my AC, Alt, and PS pump. I've been used to driving power assisted cars all my life, so when i felt the belt go and all of a sudden, my wheel wouldn't turn as easy, I got a little freaked out. Especially cause I was in the middle of running a mountain pass with a friend behind me. But driving a manual steered car does get easier as you do it more.

[Dori Dori]

Rb guy says his is 46/56 in a s13, but I was wondering what the dist. would be after ca/sr swap.

This is horse doo-doo. There is no way a larger, heavier, and not to mention turbo'd RB could give better weight distribution than a stock KA. 46/56 my booty, maybe closer to 60/40 (just a guess). IIRC, a stock s13 hatch w/ KA has a 55/45 weight distribution (according to a nissan ad).

[14.5drift]

damn it I keep typen it wrong. To clear it up is it is 56 front and 44 rear, and the car is 53/47 from the factory. Sorry for the mix up

[quiksilvia]

i remember on my tempo, i blew the serpentiine belt which was running my AC, Alt, and PS pump.......Especially cause I was in the middle of running a mountain pass with a friend behind me.

.............er

[Dori Dori]

damn it I keep typen it wrong. To clear it up is it is 56 front and 44 rear, and the car is 53/47 from the factory. Sorry for the mix up

That's a little easier for me to believe...the fact that this measurement was probably taken from a car w/ no accessories either (a/c or p/s) makes it even easier. Let me ask you though, did this car have a RB20det or a RB25det? I've heard that a RB25det's transmission is much heavier than the one found on a RB20det. Just curious.

[14.5drift]

twas an rb25 with the battery in the trunk, check it out http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....45754