Weigh in... time to set this straight

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
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rbsileighty
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I did a search and couldn't find anyone who has posted what their car weighs with a KA-T setup, and it got me thinking. I have put this thread in the other motor forums. It would be kind of cool to see what the real difference between SR's, CA's, and RB's swapped into S-chassis. Maybe this way we can get this info covered once and for all in one place. I know we've had weigh in's, but this way we kind of have a "control group" to go by...

Thanks for the help!

Let's do it like this... if anyone is willing to drive to a truck stop or if they have access to scales. Someone with the following equipment:

List if S13 (coupe or hatch) or S14, Turbo motor, no significant body mods, 1/2 tank gas, back seat still installed, FMIC, and list anything removed.


goofynick6
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Umm, thought there was a thread like this a couple months back or less?

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rbsileighty
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Nothing is consistant... it would be nice to have a control group from each type of motor. Same mods... so the only difference would be motor +/-20lbs

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Carl H
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my car sits higher in the front than when the ka was in it.

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what i would like to know is what the diff in weight is between the RB20, RB25 and RB26

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T4 RB25det wrote:what i would like to know is what the diff in weight is between the RB20, RB25 and RB26
That specific information is gonna be hard to find. I doubt anyone in the states has weighed out the differences.

I'll say it's probably +/- 50-100 pounds between them all, including transmission weight.

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Here is some KA-T data (more removed than I'd like but it's a start):

Quote »My S14 w/KA-T weighs in at ~2780 with half a tank...

RevHard cast manifold, T3/T4, GReddy FMIC, full 3" exhaust...

Car has had the sunroof removed, nothing in the trunk area, no spare...otherwise full interior and stock.

Tein HE coilovers and heavier-than-stock wheels[/quote]I will make a spreadsheet once we get some more info from across the board.
Modified by rbsileighty at 12:50 PM 10/14/2005

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its important to note that if you want to setup a control, the cars must have stock suspension. Basically any kind of lowering in ride height will change weight ratios. That is why even though the rb might weigh slightly more in the front, it can easily be compensated by with coilovers. Search up a post with my username. I had my car corner weighed some time ago

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I weighed my car a little while ago and it came in at 3200lb's with me in it and i weigh 240 so 2960 with the rb25det, and some semi-heavy 17x8 cobra wheels, apex n1 dual exhaust which is pretty heavy) and full interior nothing removed.

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Bluefire wrote:its important to note that if you want to setup a control, the cars must have stock suspension. Basically any kind of lowering in ride height will change weight ratios. That is why even though the rb might weigh slightly more in the front, it can easily be compensated by with coilovers. Search up a post with my username. I had my car corner weighed some time ago

-Bluefire
I posted this issue in the KA-T forum as a reply to his posting for the similar reasons. I'm not so much interested in F/R ratio (not a bad thing to have) but more so overall weight... which coilovers affect since everyone doesn't have the same brand/setup.

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not brand, but actual ride height. Basically a car that sits higher in the front and lower in the back will have higher forward weight. Higher in the rear, lower in the front, more rear weight. Also left to right and corner to corner. So you basically adjust the ride height in each corner to optimize corner weights

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Bluefire wrote:not brand, but actual ride height. Basically a car that sits higher in the front and lower in the back will have higher forward weight. Higher in the rear, lower in the front, more rear weight. Also left to right and corner to corner. So you basically adjust the ride height in each corner to optimize corner weights

-Bluefire
I know... I have coilovers. I was saying that I am looking for overall weight... not front or rear bias caused by the motors... just what the car weighs as a whole with the swap/turbo upgrade.

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I don´t know if this will help but a bone stock 200SX S13 Hatch with 5 speed and CA18DET weigh 1200 kg, around 2400 lbs.(Our 240 is called 200 here and got the CA.)

/Mike

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Definitely gives a good idea, thank you very much! I am actually familar with the 200sx as I was looking into buying one while I was in Germany for a few months earlier this year... very tempting... not very popular in Germany = cheap!

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rbsileighty wrote:Definitely gives a good idea, thank you very much! I am actually familar with the 200sx as I was looking into buying one while I was in Germany for a few months earlier this year... very tempting... not very popular in Germany = cheap!
Yeah, the Germans hate the S13, always bearing problem...The Swedish S13´s got no problems but we change oil in ours.

I usually buy my cars in Germany, the price is much lower and no rust but as I said, you need to grind the crank and use underdim bearings.And the most important thing, add an oil cooler for lower oil temp and to increase oil volume.

/Mike

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2690lbs

89 hatchback RB20DETFMICMR Coilovers17x9sno ac, ps, or hatch interior back seat is in, but no b pillars and stuffS14 belts M/T Slicks 10psi (2665 w/o slicks and backseat)1/2 tank of gas


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