"We had to tame it down to 1,000HP..." NSFWL

[sbird1]

I wasn't expecting to watch the whole thing, but I couldn't stop once it started!

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If that video doesn't make you giddy, GTFO my internet.

[dre1507]

no giddyschoolgirlism going on here, but I am a fan of these guys' work.

[alms24sebring]

I think I just made a skidmark that long in my pants. That Avalanche was probly my fav

[Oatmealman]

cool cars and wicked power no doubt but doing that crap on the street? doesn't speak well for the maturity of the owner and I sure as hell hope he has permission to drive those cars like that from the owner.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Ok time for me to chime in.

To be quite honest i'm not that impressed simply because:

Our JDM cars like the R35, Z32, Z33, Z34, Supra, RX7 can achieve those numbers with litterally half of the displacement also not to mention our cars are WAY more reliable. Plus way better handling. Also so sexy!

Anyone can build a vehicle that makes gobs of power all they need is money. But can they actually drive it or control it.

Can the chassis even handle the power? (example: a guy i know has a mustang foxbody. He told me that the frame and body panels get all outa wack when the chassis makes a certain amount of power he did it to his car and its horrible haha IIR it only takes like 500hp launching on slicks)

Last but not least all those vehicles in that video will ever do is go in a straight line haha LAME! Anyone can drive an automatic car/truck.

[sbird1]

I believe that Avalanche will do much more than go in a straight line. And show me any of those JDM cars that make upwards of 1500 HP reliably. Anything with lower displacement will not be reliable at those power levels. Everything in the motor is at maximum stress. The fact that these cars have those kind of power levels and are still streetable is awesome. Plus, nothing beats the sound of a BBC; particularly a TT BBC.

[gwoods]

You can tell he had spotters from the radio chatter in a couple of the video's but still that would be a lot of jail time if he were caught. If you caught him just once and then played this video in court he wouldn't be building another engine just making the license plates.

How hard is it to find a giant parking lot at an industrial part of town to mess around in? How hard would it be to take these cars to the local dragstrip for the video shoot?

That one residential section with mountains on his right and new build houses on the left has to be a 35mph zone he wrapped out 3rd gear in a couple of the cars that has to be 120 mph +

The cars are cool but I have no respect for the builder/driver

[300ZXttZMAN]

I believe that Avalanche will do much more than go in a straight line. And show me any of those JDM cars that make upwards of 1500 HP reliably. Anything with lower displacement will not be reliable at those power levels. Everything in the motor is at maximum stress. The fact that these cars have those kind of power levels and are still streetable is awesome. Plus, nothing beats the sound of a BBC; particularly a TT BBC.

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No think about what you just said please an avalanche doing autocross ??? You have a broken mustang you think turning onto an on ramp is good handling.

Yea everything is at a maximum stress but guess what it can handle it. The chassis itself can handle it on most cars.

If you want proof you search for it.

[TTkickedin]

Either type of vehicle, american or japanese: where else would 1000+hp be PRACTICAL and useable besides drag?

(maybe uphill climbs, but thats offroad and very useable in awd form, you won't see many asphault track racers sporting 1000+hp and being successful though.)

Having 1000hp on the street is stupid and pointless, street racing is even stupider. Yeah there might not be people around, but what happens when you crash at 120+, racing tracks have medical personnel on the ready and can get to you on a drag strip in a minute or less. How long would it take EMT's to get to you on the street (granted if you can even dial them)? Keep in mind you could be bleeding out/in shock/impaled/on fire, it would take them on average 15 minutes. Then add time for MED/EVAC if needed 35 minutes plus. Worth it only if you're a complete dipsh!t

[numbnuts240]

there are a lot more motorsports than drag and autocross.

you made the claim that nissans can handle the power, YOU back yourself up. it's not his job to validate your argument.

[300ZXttZMAN]

there are a lot more motorsports than drag and autocross.

you made the claim that nissans can handle the power, YOU back yourself up. it's not his job to validate your argument.

No s*** ^ who do you think I am of course there is more motorsports than drag and autocross I just said autocross as an example cause thats one of my favorite things to do..

To back it up okk here ya go i guess you have a decent point on that end i just didn't feel like linking and s*** but anyway you do have a good point so here you go..

And about the chassis handling it yea they can handle it most of the time mustang fox body can't obviously.. Obviously other cars can and can't I was using that as an example.. there is no need to get all pissy guys keep in mind we all love nissan if you dont then gtfo you don't belong in this fourm and your what we call a troll!

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So yea its cool that those are small block chevys making that much power it sounds like sex but honestly think about it. Something with half of the displacement can make almost just as much some times more how cool is that.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Either type of vehicle, american or japanese: where else would 1000+hp be PRACTICAL and useable besides drag?

(maybe uphill climbs, but thats offroad and very useable in awd form, you won't see many asphault track racers sporting 1000+hp and being successful though.)

Having 1000hp on the street is stupid and pointless, street racing is even stupider. Yeah there might not be people around, but what happens when you crash at 120+, racing tracks have medical personnel on the ready and can get to you on a drag strip in a minute or less. How long would it take EMT's to get to you on the street (granted if you can even dial them)? Keep in mind you could be bleeding out/in shock/impaled/on fire, it would take them on average 15 minutes. Then add time for MED/EVAC if needed 35 minutes plus. Worth it only if you're a complete dipsh!t

Your completely right!

Also yea those people in that video are retarded wow 120mph in a 35mph thats crazy just asking to die.

[TTkickedin]

Claiming that avalanche is more reliable than a 1500hp "JDM engine" is just another american vs "those JDM cars" hatred rant. There's japanese v8's that are proven to be 'reliable', same with v12s. Save it, it's tired, old and stupid since nobody comes correct with evidence to back their claim.

WTF does reliability consist of on a highly modified engine anyway?! Who's even tested the reliability of a 1500hp street car?!

For discussions sake, better term would be not requiring major internal/mechanical overhaul, IMHO..

How long has any 'street' car with 1500hp gone without a major overhaul?

Keep in mind, a stock avalanche would not require a major overhaul in a substantially longer amount of time than any modified 1500hp engine for that matter. This conversation is ridiculously stupid.

I spent 15 minutes researching the reliability of a 1500hp avalanche. Nothing pops up on how long it can go without an overhaul. IDK where you got that information from that it's reliable. If based on speculation, you need to edit your post with a big IMHO case any noobs come around believing your word before the one's that actually own it.

[krash]

Think about it logically. 1000hp is putting more stress on 4 cylinders than it is on 8. Sure there are more factors, but think in more general terms.

blah, too lazy to talk more. Cars are cool.

[numbnuts240]

don't bother krash, they aren't uber tyte jdm hentai hamster wheels, so they are garbage.

[TTkickedin]

There's 4 cylinder ship engines producing 5000+ hp. Does that mean 4 cylinders are stronger? Gtfooh

And who said this was a 4 cyl vs 8 cyl debate? All I heard was japanese engines


For anyone willing to discuss the actual facts of this conversation, stay and post, otherwise leave your baseless prejudices at home off this thread.

[krash]

There's 4 cylinder ship engines producing 5000+ hp. Does that mean 4 cylinders are stronger? Gtfooh

I don't remember talking about ships. I thought we were talking about Nissan engines that are "literally half the displacement" of these american motors.

If you like boats, heres a great boat forum: http://forums.iboats.com/forum.php

you can talk about your 5000+ hp ships there. This thread is about car engines.

Our JDM cars like the R35, Z32, Z33, Z34, Supra, RX7 can achieve those numbers with litterally half of the displacement also not to mention our cars are WAY more reliable. Plus way better handling. Also so sexy!

There is sooooooooo much false information and generalization in this statement that it makes me want to become an alcoholic.

don't bother krash, they aren't uber tyte jdm hentai hamster wheels, so they are garbage.

srsly, VG30>LS ALL DAY ERRY DAY

[300ZXttZMAN]

Think about it logically. 1000hp is putting more stress on 4 cylinders than it is on 8. Sure there are more factors, but think in more general terms.

blah, too lazy to talk more. Cars are cool.

Well of course yall that's obvious haha. A 1000hp car is only as reliable as it sounds..

[TTkickedin]

I thought we were talking about engines? and somehow it turns into a 4cyl vs 8cyl debate, and now a 6cyl vs 8cyl debate?

I'll do you one better, let's talk about v12's vs v8's, see how far off the original topic we can get?

The topic was about 'those JDM engines' right? And reliability at 1500hp? American vs japanese engines?

Japanese v8 vs american v8 what difference is there? Both can get similar numbers. End of duscussion.

What f*** reliability would there be in any highly modified engine?
Show me something proving how reliable that avalanche is, because I was told its more reliable than a stock japanese engine listed by zman.. Smh

And the ship example does say something, kind of. its a 4cyl with larger displacement. That doesn't rule it out to be the most reliable god engine ever, you could have a v8 at similar displacement put out the same power! So what's the point of this conversation?

Like I said, this is pointless and retarded. American fanboy v8 lovers will keep putting down japanese engines even of the same displacement. ( extending onto the reliability topic as well.) I like v8's, american or japanese, but I'd still pick a japanese v8 over american, if I even wanted a v8...They're cheaper and can get the same numbers as an american v8, similar displacement, or more (vk56)

no need to talk reliability, anything built is prone to failure, american or japanese. If u want reliability, you shouldn't be interested in high horsepower applications, consider a stock engine for that. You'll get your good reliability at that level.

is it just something about japan you guys hate that causes these discussions? In that case I think you should refer yourself to a psychiatrist to talk about your stereotypical thoughts.

Side note: when did america stop making body on frame vehicles anyway? 2010?

[krash]

Heres a cool boat:


You should really check out that forum. TONS of boats on there. TONS.

[TTkickedin]

Lol let me throw a curve ball in there. 3 rotor engine, making about 350 at the flywheel naturally aspirated, has about 2.0liters, that's a jdm engine. Why no smart-a** responses about rotaries vs v8's?!

Or how about a toyota century v12 making more hp than your average v8. Its gotta be those jdm fanboys putting a turbo on it right?

I'm done with this thread. Its a stupid argument. Pointless to discuss reliability when talking high horsepower, and saying american v8 vs japanese engines are better, stupidest most generalized thought in this entire thread. Did you forget japan makes v8's too? How about you try being less biased and stereotypical?

[TTkickedin]

Smh some people just never learn.

[krash]

TTkickedin, Here is another boat I think you will enjoy, its pretty sweet! :

[dre1507]

The back of that boat looks like it got sawed off.

[numbnuts240]

I'm done with this thread.

you're the first person i ever saw engage in a debate by yourself and then back out because you weren't winning. i tip my hat to you.

nobody was going on about how they think japanese engines are garbage. on the contrary, it was your buddy who was going on about how they are gods compared to american engines. maybe you should point him in the direction of that psychiatrist to talk about his stereotypical thoughts.

want to talk reliability? they're all going to break something eventually. fact. let's move on.

rotaries? HA! let's move on.

japanese v8 vs. american v8? sure, any engine can make just about any power, but have you ever heard of a japanese v8 making 1500hp? sure, a couple of people shooting for 1k (rips included), but they are far and few between. >1k is pretty common with american v8's. look at it this way: 2k is extreme for an american v8, so it gets "tamed down to 1k". 1k is extreme for japanese engines.

now i'm not some american v8 fanboy, but i'm not jaded either. it is what it is.

[Oatmealman]

The only reason american v8s can handle it is because everything was build to be ginormous.Ever looked at the cylinder walls of a 350? they are thick as f***,no take a look at a 5.6 nissan they are only about half as thick.

Im in no way talking s*** about jap motors,i think they are better,they are built with better tolerances,quality,and mileage goals in mind,thats why they can get away with thinner blocks.

like numb nuts said 2k is extreme for american v8s because they are way overbuilt.I was looking at buying a 63 amc rambler wagon with a 196 I-6 and one of the thinnest point of the cylinder walls was .84 inch.That's a nats a** thinner than 3/4 inch thick.you could never blow that block apart and amc proved that in the late 60's when they made a 500hp race engine out of it with stock crank and rods and forged pistons(Stock rods and crank where already forged.)

anyways to end my rant people need to quit whining.they are useless as hell on the street and it was dumb of the owner to do what he did but they are engineering feats imo

[float_6969]

It was stupid on the street, no doubt. We all agree.

I think the point in all of that was to show how STREETABLE his builds were. I don't care who you are, or what motor it is, or who made the motor, it takes some thought, planning, and GOOD tuning to pull off 1K+hp and still be streetable. For that I applaud him.

[sbird1]

^

No think about what you just said please an avalanche doing autocross ??? You have a broken mustang you think turning onto an on ramp is good handling.

Yea everything is at a maximum stress but guess what it can handle it. The chassis itself can handle it on most cars.

If you want proof you search for it.

That's one of the most ignorant things I've read on these forums. You obviously didn't watch the video long enough to see the Avalanche.

It was stupid on the street, no doubt. We all agree.

I think the point in all of that was to show how STREETABLE his builds were. I don't care who you are, or what motor it is, or who made the motor, it takes some thought, planning, and GOOD tuning to pull off 1K+hp and still be streetable. For that I applaud him.

Thank you. That's about all I was trying to convey. Also, all of the boat posts are awesome. And those 4 cylinder boat engines making "5000+ HP" are probably upwards of 10 liters...