watched some 350z/g35 races on you tube I am surprised.

[ascoolasice]

I was looking at the hp of the Z350 and the G35 coupe and I was shocked. Around 300hp and they seem to lose to all kinds of cars in races. Don't get me wrong I don't want the car to race but it is shocking.

350z vs Mazda Speed the speed wins and by a half car length.g35 vs civic type R the civic takes it.Even one video of a Civic si vs the 350z the Z only beats it by a car length.

I watched more with s2000, STI, Cobalt SS and in each the z/G35 get killed.

Even though the g35 and the 350z are heavy thats not right at all. When a civic can take you pushing 100 hp less thats bad. Any thoughts or maybe I am just watching stupid videos?

[zozoka1212]

I am just watching stupid videos?

You summed it up pretty good.

Never last to any of them. To tell you the truth. Youtube is good for kids to misinform others. But even if it was true at the end you still sitting in a nicer car. There is some faster car and cheaper too. Do I want any of them? Hell no.

zozo
Modified by zozoka1212 at 1:15 AM 4/18/2008

[zozoka1212]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jIg9AdnkKvYh ... ?v...lated

zozo

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[mycoupe8urs]

I have the same question in mind..... a couple of guys i work with go to the track every once in a while and one of them always talks about civic this, integra that. He claims that all he needs is I/H/E on a LS integra engine and he is gonna crush my G in the 1/4. I know the G35 isnt the fastest car in the world but i know its gonna take alot more than that to keep up with me even though im stock. And all he has to back up his claim is "just look it up on youtube" ....... cant wait till i shut him the hell up

[TeflonG35]

On the original post. Mazda3speeds arent to be taken lightly. They can be fast with a little work. A new intake adds like 30hp for them. Thats about 300hp. Ford always makes crappy intakes.

About the hondas and integras. If they beat you in the 1/4 mile their cars are over boosted and will probably only last about 3 runs before imploding themselves.

I raced 2 turboed hondas at the track. One died doing 18's the other did 15's in the 1/4 mile. 4 hondas showed up to the track that night. only one was able to drive home.

[Minmey15]

Do you realize most of the cars that are mentioned are FWD? We have RWD, and that's all I gotta say about our car!

[gwoods]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9fTpGkbzIM

heres mine

[garrik23]

THOSE RACE ON YOUTUBE ARE OF NUBE DRIVERS WHO CANT DRIVE.... IVE RACED MAZDA SPEEDS, CIVIC SI, ALL THOSE LITTLE 4CYL RICERS AND ITS NOT EVEN A RACE. THAATTS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.. THE 350Z COMES CLOSE TO A COUPE BUT I DONT KNOW WHY AFTER 100 THEY DONT MOVE AS GOOD AS THE G35... IN CONCLUSION G35 IS THE BEST..AHHAH

[Jacko3]

ascoolasice:

Let me give you some truth. Yes, the 350Z and the G-35 Coupe are stock heavy. So, it s very possible for a Mazda Speed 3 or a Civic si, oe even a Sentra SER to challenege a G-35 Coupe or a 350 Z on a straightline. This is fact. So, I give you this one.

However, when G-35 coupe or a 350 Z is moded out, such as my car, which has a plenum spacer, a cold air intake, and a Stillen exhaust, I doubt any of these cars, without a single turbo or a supercharger can hold up to the G-35 Coupe and 350Z. I have seen many Honda Accords and Nissan Altimas with turbos or earlier models, having a hard time keeping up with me. Remember, you may have been dealing with stock G-35 Coupe cars and not moded out G-35s. And btw, the G-35 Coupe does not have 300HP. The maximum made was 295 HP for 05 and 06 G-35 Coupe, and 306 HP for 07 and 08 350Z.

Secondly, driver error is an issue.

Thirdly, most of the G-35s out there are auto transmissions, which have some type of delimiter to keep the transmission safe. The story would be different for a manual transmission G-35 which can rev up to 7,000RPM. With modifications, these cars you mention, wil have a serious hard time keeping up with a modified G-35 Coupe 6MT, as well as serious reliability issues.

Finally, the G-35 Coupe and 350Z are not the best drag cars---they have never been. They are however, supremely designed for track and curves. I will bet you $10,000 that a slightly moded G-35 Coupe or 350 Z with small modifications will spank, second by second, a twin turboed Civic Si, a Mazda 3 speed or even a Dodge SRT - 8, on a 2 mile windy road course. This is the secret and fun of having the G-35 coupe or the 350Z.

And then added to that, almost every G-35 Coupe engine and a 350 Z engine will always make it home. I doubt after a serious road course race, any of these cars you mention, will make it back alive or fit. Go back to youtube and search for G-35s that are used for drifiting and road course racing, not very many ever quit or have issues, and yet , they are a daily driver.

So, the substance of a car is not in its 1/4 mile run. The substance of a car is what it can do on a real race track, that is windy enough to cause you to black out. There is windy road where i live. I nearly blacked out from pulling to many Gs, while my car wa still gripping the road on the tightest turn I have ever come across. That is how powerful and stable a G-35Coupe really is, with the right set of tires.

So, I commend your cars on straightline trips. But, I wouldn't do so on a real race track, where intense braking, hair-raising cornering, and acceleration is seriously required. I tend to show off on curves and windy roads and not a on straight lines. Curves are for real drivers with a heart and straight lines are for everyone who can hold a steeering wheel.

[mycoupe8urs]

ascoolasice:

Let me give you some truth. Yes, the 350Z and the G-35 Coupe are stock heavy. So, it s very possible for a Mazda Speed 3 or a Civic si, oe even a Sentra SER to challenege a G-35 Coupe or a 350 Z on a straightline. This is fact. So, I give you this one.

However, when G-35 coupe or a 350 Z is moded out, such as my car, which has a plenum spacer, a cold air intake, and a Stillen exhaust, I doubt any of these cars, without a single turbo or a supercharger can hold up to the G-35 Coupe and 350Z. I have seen many Honda Accords and Nissan Altimas with turbos or earlier models, having a hard time keeping up with me. Remember, you may have been dealing with stock G-35 Coupe cars and not moded out G-35s. And btw, the G-35 Coupe does not have 300HP. The maximum made was 295 HP for 05 and 06 G-35 Coupe, and 306 HP for 07 and 08 350Z.

Secondly, driver error is an issue.

Thirdly, most of the G-35s out there are auto transmissions, which have some type of delimiter to keep the transmission safe. The story would be different for a manual transmission G-35 which can rev up to 7,000RPM. With modifications, these cars you mention, wil have a serious hard time keeping up with a modified G-35 Coupe 6MT, as well as serious reliability issues.

Finally, the G-35 Coupe and 350Z are not the best drag cars---they have never been. They are however, supremely designed for track and curves. I will bet you $10,000 that a slightly moded G-35 Coupe or 350 Z with small modifications will spank, second by second, a twin turboed Civic Si, a Mazda 3 speed or even a Dodge SRT - 8, on a 2 mile windy road course. This is the secret and fun of having the G-35 coupe or the 350Z.

And then added to that, almost every G-35 Coupe engine and a 350 Z engine will always make it home. I doubt after a serious road course race, any of these cars you mention, will make it back alive or fit. Go back to youtube and search for G-35s that are used for drifiting and road course racing, not very many ever quit or have issues, and yet , they are a daily driver.

So, the substance of a car is not in its 1/4 mile run. The substance of a car is what it can do on a real race track, that is windy enough to cause you to black out. There is windy road where i live. I nearly blacked out from pulling to many Gs, while my car wa still gripping the road on the tightest turn I have ever come across. That is how powerful and stable a G-35Coupe really is, with the right set of tires.

So, I commend your cars on straightline trips. But, I wouldn't do so on a real race track, where intense braking, hair-raising cornering, and acceleration is seriously required. I tend to show off on curves and windy roads and not a on straight lines. Curves are for real drivers with a heart and straight lines are for everyone who can hold a steeering wheel.

All of that makes perfect sense..... even tho i dont need it, im getting ready to order my JWT popcharger and Z-tube anyway. Chris (honda fanboy co-worker) aint gonna know what hit him.

[Sentientbydesign]

And btw, the G-35 Coupe does not have 300HP. The maximum made was 295 HP for 05 and 06 G-35 Coupe, and 306 HP for 07 and 08 350Z.

Jacko3,

It's 298 HP for the 6MT 2nd gen coupes. So I can add a z-tube and probably get 300 HP to the crank, but who really cares? lol It's all about how many Civics I have under my belt...$hit, Did I just say that?

[ascoolasice]

That all makes a lot of sense. So if a stock 298hp g35 coupe had the pop charger , z tube, intake and exhaust done how much hp estimate could it produce?

[Jacko3]

Sentient:

Yes, its 298Hp for the 05 and 06 rev up engines. The 07 coupes were rated at 293 or 295 Hp.

[Jacko3]

ascoolasice:

Conservatively, I think my car makes about 310 - 308 horses at the crank. But there are days when it performs even better than 310 hp at the crank--such days are few.

After you have moded out the car, you still have to flog the car for a while (2 weeks to 1 month) so that the computer can learn the new intake and exhaust parameters as it relates to your driving pattern. The G-35 learns each drivers driving pattern. My mechanic confirmed this learning mode of the car.

For this, the G-35 will behave diffferently if you drive it gently all the time, when compared to driving it aggressively all the time. I am not sure about this, but I think the G-35 Coupe has two or three learning settings in its ECU.

I have personally noticed that the G-35 Coupe can be sluggish if it has been driven gently for a while, and then there is sudden need for instant and immediate power. Perhaps, the guys that were raced by Civic Si, did so with someone who routinely drives their G-35 Coupe gently, and then on that day, decided to flog the car. Well, the car will be sluggish and not be as responsive, and not because anything is wrong with the car, but because the setting on the ECU was for a less aggressive driving pattern. It takes a few days of flogging the car, to get the ECU setting back to an aggressive stance which is more responsive. ALso, I have my RPM setting raise to 850 RPM instead of 800RPM, at idle. Maybe this nakes a difference in performance and improved gas mileage.

On the other hand, I have learned how to reset my ECU learning to a more aggressive setting, by ensuring that at least during any driving trip or every 15 minutes of driving, I push the car to 6,500 RPM or more in third gear, in order to ensure that the extreme driving data pattern produced is stored in the computers memory, so that it maintains an aggressive driving pattern. Of course, this comes at the risk of receiving a traffic citation. Of course, I need good brakes to slow down when I do so for 9 seconds or less.

So, the way one drives their G-35 Coupe on a daily basis, has a lot to do with the way the ECU determines how to adjust itself or which setting or pattern to use. This is one of the reasons why many usually here me advice on flogging the car. Of course, my comments are for the G-35 Coupe 6MT. I am not sure if this is the case with the G-35 Coupe 5AT.

Also, contrary to what most people think, the 6MT is quite confortable at 7000RPM---you have to get your car' engine used to that high end RPM for the ECU to learn to adjust to that setting---just revving your car to such a high RPM, when you have not done so in all of the car's life, can be detrimental. Of course, most will argue that it shortens engine life to rev up an engine that high, which I tend to agree with, but not as much as if you use the highest quality of oil, and a more conservative oil change schedule (3,000 miles or slightly less). T

The 6MT transmission is really unbeleivable---extremely reliable, strong, and crisp---I feel it can handle another 50 hp very easily. Though, i really think the car does need a better engine damper or brace to hold down the engine from moving too much under aceleration or WOT. I have found that engine movement, if ignored excessively by the driver under aggressive driving, to affect the car's handling only very slightly. Again, this is only under really aggressive driving.

These are just my 2 cents and my experience so far. I have smoked a well moded out Mustang---this driver was really good and experienced, tons of other regular mustangs, a Mercedes Benz, tons of Honda Accords and civics. Till date only a Lexus LS460--an 8 cylinder, has really been a challenge and it barely made it beat me---i thought my manhood was stripped from me on that day. Of course this is possible if you have the heart to rev up to 7,000RPM and are using the right tires. Tires and brakes is everything on the G-35 Coupe---you need that stopping power---this is a no compromise part for this car.

[LockeOut]

dont underestimate a honda..

New Civic Si's and RSX type S' have a K20 engine.

RSX-S' run 14 second 1/4miles with I/E/H

trust me that engine is a beast. Hondata KPro tuning we can Vtec from 5000 RPMs all the way to 8600... alot of power up there man.

plus its 6MT as well.

add some expensive mods... JacksonRacingSuperCharger... even at a low DD PSI 300 HP is easily acheivable... and considering how light an RSX is compared to a G35... you can imagine how fast these hondas get.

Someone said it right tho... Your still in a much nicer car :

[maik21]

ascoolasice:

Conservatively, I think my car makes about 310 - 308 horses at the crank. But there are days when it performs even better than 310 hp at the crank--such days are few.

After you have moded out the car, you still have to flog the car for a while (2 weeks to 1 month) so that the computer can learn the new intake and exhaust parameters as it relates to your driving pattern. The G-35 learns each drivers driving pattern. My mechanic confirmed this learning mode of the car.

For this, the G-35 will behave diffferently if you drive it gently all the time, when compared to driving it aggressively all the time. I am not sure about this, but I think the G-35 Coupe has two or three learning settings in its ECU.

I have personally noticed that the G-35 Coupe can be sluggish if it has been driven gently for a while, and then there is sudden need for instant and immediate power. Perhaps, the guys that were raced by Civic Si, did so with someone who routinely drives their G-35 Coupe gently, and then on that day, decided to flog the car. Well, the car will be sluggish and not be as responsive, and not because anything is wrong with the car, but because the setting on the ECU was for a less aggressive driving pattern. It takes a few days of flogging the car, to get the ECU setting back to an aggressive stance which is more responsive. ALso, I have my RPM setting raise to 850 RPM instead of 800RPM, at idle. Maybe this nakes a difference in performance and improved gas mileage.

On the other hand, I have learned how to reset my ECU learning to a more aggressive setting, by ensuring that at least during any driving trip or every 15 minutes of driving, I push the car to 6,500 RPM or more in third gear, in order to ensure that the extreme driving data pattern produced is stored in the computers memory, so that it maintains an aggressive driving pattern. Of course, this comes at the risk of receiving a traffic citation. Of course, I need good brakes to slow down when I do so for 9 seconds or less.

So, the way one drives their G-35 Coupe on a daily basis, has a lot to do with the way the ECU determines how to adjust itself or which setting or pattern to use. This is one of the reasons why many usually here me advice on flogging the car. Of course, my comments are for the G-35 Coupe 6MT. I am not sure if this is the case with the G-35 Coupe 5AT.

Also, contrary to what most people think, the 6MT is quite confortable at 7000RPM---you have to get your car' engine used to that high end RPM for the ECU to learn to adjust to that setting---just revving your car to such a high RPM, when you have not done so in all of the car's life, can be detrimental. Of course, most will argue that it shortens engine life to rev up an engine that high, which I tend to agree with, but not as much as if you use the highest quality of oil, and a more conservative oil change schedule (3,000 miles or slightly less). T

The 6MT transmission is really unbeleivable---extremely reliable, strong, and crisp---I feel it can handle another 50 hp very easily. Though, i really think the car does need a better engine damper or brace to hold down the engine from moving too much under aceleration or WOT. I have found that engine movement, if ignored excessively by the driver under aggressive driving, to affect the car's handling only very slightly. Again, this is only under really aggressive driving.

These are just my 2 cents and my experience so far. I have smoked a well moded out Mustang---this driver was really good and experienced, tons of other regular mustangs, a Mercedes Benz, tons of Honda Accords and civics. Till date only a Lexus LS460--an 8 cylinder, has really been a challenge and it barely made it beat me---i thought my manhood was stripped from me on that day. Of course this is possible if you have the heart to rev up to 7,000RPM and are using the right tires. Tires and brakes is everything on the G-35 Coupe---you need that stopping power---this is a no compromise part for this car.

is this true??? can some one confirm this?

[Focusedintntions]

Also remember for most street races that you see on youtube...the drivers rarely turn off the VDC....not doing this makes a huge difference in the accellerating power of the car and just the responsiveness.

With the VDC on it's definately slower to respond as any amount of wheelspin cuts the power of the vehicle. I've noticed with my car that when the button is off my car is much quicker and the throttle is much more responsive.

[Sentientbydesign]

Stock RSX type-S puts out just around 200 ponies and 140 ft lbs of torque.

I found one stock dyno slip for an 05. It showed a peak HP of 175whp.

Which means every HP has to pull (yes pull) 15.55lbs (not including driver weight).

The 05 G35 Coupe on the other hand puts down around 242HP to the wheels meaning every HP only has to pul 14.33lbs.

An intake and exhaust push the RWHP into the high 250s.

The engine also gets at least 200HP to the wheels from 2500RPMs to over 6500RPMS.

The RSX type-S averages around 135HP until the second cam profile kicks in when it jumps ridiculously, then starts dying off quickly.

I'll stick with the G35

[Jacko3]

focusedintentions:

Well said! VDC OFF makes a huge difference in acceleration. I rarely ever have it ON. Why have it ON to begin with? Leaving the VDC ON kills the excitement of the driving experience.
Modified by Jacko3 at 3:44 PM 4/18/2008

[Jacko3]

Lockeout:

I don't dispute your facts, and neither will most G-35 owners. However, as i said before, the G-35 Coupe isn't that great on straight line take off, and most members love their car to much to put it through its paces, even though the car can handle it comfortably.

Again, the G-35 Coupe is not a drag car, and it will never be one. I came to that conclusion 6 months ago. Why don't you take your RSX and all the Hondas put together, without making any adjustments to their suspension, and see how they hold up on a track or on curves with the G-35 Coupe. Mind you, I have never bragged about the G-35 Coupe on a straight line. But I will brag about it on curves and turns because, once a week, very close to where I live, I have a 2 - 4 miles strip of the most exciting curves and turns that can be found on any track or road. I call this road, my holy grail of handling as this road is almost always empty---very very very few cars at any time of the day. I have pushed my car to the point of determining when the rear wheels will give way. The G-35 Coupe with the right set of tires, is plenty capable beyond most owners imagination, so long as it is done with some common sense.

So, i commend the RSX and the Honda's for their Vtec engine and all what not. But, I am 100% confident that none of those cars will ever come close to sticking on the road and yet maintain their acceleration under WOT, braking and cornering, when a G-35 Coupe driver who knows what the heck they are doing gets behimd the steerimg. It is the mix of these attributes, that sets apart the G-35 Coupe and makes it exciting to drive. Striaght line acceleration, as I said before, can be done by anyone.

Let me give you an idea of how extreme I drive. I pull from 0-60 miles and hour and sometimes to 65 miles an hour in 2nd gear. My Third gear is just there to relax the engine. 7000RPM is a daily routine.

In my estimation as a driver, having 200HP or 300HP or 400HP, without being able to handle curves and tight turns, is truely sad for a car. I would rather have a car with 250 Hp that can handle tight turns and curves than have one with 400Hp that will fish tail on slightly tight turns.

In fact, what I have found out is that, when the G-35s setting is on an aggressive driving pattern, I have found turbo charged Hondas to be highly unresponsive when I suddenly go to WOT---it is like they are still tryin gto figure out what happened after I am gone. Perhaps turbo lag maybe the issue here.

The only small car that has impressed me so far, is the Mazda Speed 6---really impressive acceleration when it wants to move. Honda really needs to pay attention to Mazda Speed 6 acceleration. I was taken by surprise one night. Since then, I havea new found respect for Masda Speed 6.

Modified by Jacko3 at 3:57 PM 4/18/2008
Modified by Jacko3 at 4:06 PM 4/18/2008

[TeflonG35]

dont underestimate a honda..

New Civic Si's and RSX type S' have a K20 engine.

RSX-S' run 14 second 1/4miles with I/E/H

trust me that engine is a beast. Hondata KPro tuning we can Vtec from 5000 RPMs all the way to 8600... alot of power up there man.

plus its 6MT as well.

add some expensive mods... JacksonRacingSuperCharger... even at a low DD PSI 300 HP is easily acheivable... and considering how light an RSX is compared to a G35... you can imagine how fast these hondas get.

Someone said it right tho... Your still in a much nicer car :

Yeah but with a supercharger on a G you are about 400 hp. So the pen15 contest continues.

[Sentientbydesign]

Lockeout:

I don't dispute your facts, and neither will most G-35 owners. However, as i said before, the G-35 Coupe isn't that great on straight line take off, and most members love their car to much to put it through its paces, even though the car can handle it comfortably.

Again, the G-35 Coupe is not a drag car, and it will never be one. I came to that conclusion 6 months ago. Why don't you take your RSX and all the Hondas put together, without making any adjustments to their suspension, and see how they hold up on a track or on curves with the G-35 Coupe. Mind you, I have never bragged about the G-35 Coupe on a straight line. But I will brag about it on curves and turns because, once a week, very close to where I live, I have a 2 - 4 miles strip of the most exciting curves and turns that can be found on any track or road. I call this road, my holy grail of handling as this road is almost always empty---very very very few cars at any time of the day. I have pushed my car to the point of determining when the rear wheels will give way. The G-35 Coupe with the right set of tires, is plenty capable beyond most owners imagination, so long as it is done with some common sense.

So, i commend the RSX and the Honda's for their Vtec engine and all what not. But, I am 100% confident that none of those cars will ever come close to sticking on the road and yet maintain their acceleration under WOT, braking and cornering, when a G-35 Coupe driver who knows what the heck they are doing gets behimd the steerimg. It is the mix of these attributes, that sets apart the G-35 Coupe and makes it exciting to drive. Striaght line acceleration, as I said before, can be done by anyone.

Let me give you an idea of how extreme I drive. I pull from 0-60 miles and hour and sometimes to 65 miles an hour in 2nd gear. My Third gear is just there to relax the engine. 7000RPM is a daily routine.

In my estimation as a driver, having 200HP or 300HP or 400HP, without being able to handle curves and tight turns, is truely sad for a car. I would rather have a car with 250 Hp that can handle tight turns and curves than have one with 400Hp that will fish tail on slightly tight turns.

In fact, what I have found out is that, when the G-35s setting is on an aggressive driving pattern, I have found turbo charged Hondas to be highly unresponsive when I suddenly go to WOT---it is like they are still tryin gto figure out what happened after I am gone. Perhaps turbo lag maybe the issue here.

The only small car that has impressed me so far, is the Mazda Speed 6---really impressive acceleration when it wants to move. Honda really needs to pay attention to Mazda Speed 6 acceleration. I was taken by surprise one night. Since then, I havea new found respect for Masda Speed 6.

Modified by Jacko3 at 3:57 PM 4/18/2008

Modified by Jacko3 at 4:06 PM 4/18/2008

Sadly, Jacko, my wife's Celica GT handles better than our coupes do. I can fling that car at walls and around corners and it always pulls out beautifully. The G on the other hand... I'm still working on it. I know a lot has to do with me, and being accustomed to wrong wheel drive, but that little thing is like an awesome point and shoot camera. It may not have all of the power of a prosumer SLR, but if the shots come out...

[gwoods]

I'd rather push a Mustang then drive a Honda

[Kenrik]

Jacko3

What road? 595 - Turnpike interchange?

[Jacko3]

Kenrik:

How do you do today? How is your supercharger working in the G? Changed any other part yet after installing the supercharger? How does the car behave with the supercharger. How is gas mileage? How are the parts in the car wearing? Do you accelerate hard with the supercharger?

No, it isn't 595. Th road is in a hidden area that connects to an industrial area where people or homes do not exist. Thus, cops don't hang out in that area at all, except at night. So, the road is truly a marvel in the day time. It is totally secluded from other roads.

[Jacko3]

Gwoods:

I agree! I really love to hear the exhust note of those moded out Mustangs---really impressive.

[TeflonG35]

I'd rather push a Mustang then drive a Honda

Or ride a huffy. I would die if i had to drive a civic or a neon. Suicide hotline would be on speed dial.

[rn79870]

dont underestimate a honda..

New Civic Si's and RSX type S' have a K20 engine.

RSX-S' run 14 second 1/4miles with I/E/H

trust me that engine is a beast. Hondata KPro tuning we can Vtec from 5000 RPMs all the way to 8600... alot of power up there man.

plus its 6MT as well.

add some expensive mods... JacksonRacingSuperCharger... even at a low DD PSI 300 HP is easily acheivable... and considering how light an RSX is compared to a G35... you can imagine how fast these hondas get.

Someone said it right tho... Your still in a much nicer car :

But a 2008 G with an Auto runs a 5.2 sec. 0-60 and a 13.9 QM, or so the mags report. That's a car with little miles and no mods at all. Mod for Mod the VQHR with it's 7600rpm redline will probably win every time.Not to say that Honda engines aren't good and economical. I wished I got the mileage a civic got.

ascoolasice There was a YouTube video around here a while ago showing a dude in a civic beating a Lambo on the fwy. Obviously, the event was staged to give the civic driver bragging rights. Youtube has no creditability whatsoever.

[zozoka1212]

I don't know. I had too many different cars in the last 18 years. I never felt as I feel when I sit in my G.

Just roll on a nice suny day easy 2k rpm. Roll down the window and start accelerating take some awesome corners on the twisties. Push it to the limit. Listen the exhaust rumbling. We all know this feeling but I don't think any of the honda owners know this. That makes you love your G.

zozo

[Kenrik]

Kenrik:

How do you do today? How is your supercharger working in the G? Changed any other part yet after installing the supercharger? How does the car behave with the supercharger. How is gas mileage? How are the parts in the car wearing? Do you accelerate hard with the supercharger?

No, it isn't 595. Th road is in a hidden area that connects to an industrial area where people or homes do not exist. Thus, cops don't hang out in that area at all, except at night. So, the road is truly a marvel in the day time. It is totally secluded from other roads.

You have me mixed up with someone else.. I don't have a supercharger yet.

Anyway, I need directions to this road... I know of a road similar to this this near 441 / 595. used to be used by drifters but now it's patrolled by the PoPos.

let me in on the secret jacko!