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does any one know how to hook up tial 35mm wastgate

i heard that you can run a vacum line to the wastgate is that true

what to do

maybe someone have any picture how to do it


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huh? its two hex bolts that go into the exhuast manifold. then u have to hook up a vacuum line from the wastegate to a vacuum source so it will open.

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usually most people get a custom hot pipe (enjuku and phase2 and heavy throttle have them) and they usually have a nipple on them for the wastegate source.

is that going to work for my wastgate external wastgate

what about the blow off i got turbo xs bov do i hook up the bov to the same line

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With the wastegate installed on the exhaust manifold, it needs a vacuum source from the pressure side of the turbo, I always run my vac line from the intake. The BOV should be to a different vac line if possible. You can simply install a T fitting in any vac line on the intake. Hope that helps...

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WDRacing wrote:With the wastegate installed on the exhaust manifold, it needs a vacuum source from the pressure side of the turbo, I always run my vac line from the intake. The BOV should be to a different vac line if possible. You can simply install a T fitting in any vac line on the intake. Hope that helps...

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so to the blow off i just T fiiting any vac line on intake manifold

and for the wastgate i just put a nipple on the intake and run it to the wastgate

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Just to share a bit more info:

Wastegate: boost signal before TBBOV: vacuum signal after TB

Make sure to have it that way.

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huguetpj wrote:Just to share a bit more info:

Wastegate: boost signal before TBBOV: vacuum signal after TB

Make sure to have it that way.


why? i have my fmu, wastegate, bov, boost gauge all sourced off the fuel pressure regulator vaccuum line and have no problems with anything. wastegate opens at 8psi like it should, bov opens when i shift in boost like it should, fmu adds fuel in boos tlike it should (would have blown my motor by now if it didnt and my egs would be a lot higher)

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Structure240sx wrote:why? i have my fmu, wastegate, bov, boost gauge all sourced off the fuel pressure regulator vaccuum line and have no problems with anything. wastegate opens at 8psi like it should, bov opens when i shift in boost like it should, fmu adds fuel in boos tlike it should (would have blown my motor by now if it didnt and my egs would be a lot higher)


Since the FPR line is after the TB I don't see any issues with having everything but the wastegate using that line. I'm sure you won't see any issues either with the wastegate... but theoretically, for example, the wastegate would close during hard deceleration since the TB is closed causing a boost spike (?) or just sending more air out the BOV (hey that could increase sound :D ).

Anyway I just went along with what the Tial instructions said. I'm kinda overjealous with my car. I have a steel braided line going directly from the compressor housing to the wastegate side port to make sure the wastegate always sees a signal... for example I wouldn't want my line to melt :eek: causing sever boost spike then BOOM.

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im doing all my ic piping myself so if i put in a nipple in the hotpipe right after the turbo, will that be ok to run a line to the wastegate? and where can i run the line from the bov? does it have to be after the throttle body? i hear i needs to be from a vac line on the intake man. were would this line be? could someone post some pics?

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maybe thats why my recirculated bov is so loud

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structure, so you mean for my nsport kit i can run 3 t's from the fpr line and run my wastegate,bov,and boost gauge and the fmu?

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thats what im doing right now. im goin to try sumthin different tho over the winter. i removed the egr and im goin to try to use that vaccuum line for 1-2 or 3 things. ill be ditching my fmu soon once my jwt ecu gets here

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can anyone tell me or show me were the fpr line is so i can hook up my boost gauge, and bov to it. i looked, but i can't tell which hose it is.

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best i can do kinda hard to get a pic of where the line does into the FPR. but its the only vaccuum line goin into it. the other two are fuel lines which is obivous with it being on the fuel rail. the word under boost gauge is FPR. the fpr is at the end of the fuel rail and the vaccum line comes out the side of it towards the firewall. u can easily take it off and put it on with ur fingers


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ok so the fpr is at the end of the fuel rail, is that towards the front of the engine or back? and what does it look like?

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towards the back. just follow the fuel rail back towards the firewall. after the 4th injector is the FPR. the vaccum line is behind it as if the fuel was to keep goin straight back. the other line coming off the FPR is a fuel line, first a rbbuer line that goes into the metal fuel line of the fuel return line.

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ok so thats the line i "T" off for the bov and boost gauge?

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I have always thought of just using the feeds off of the Vacuum tree under the TB, I know I've got 2-3 of them capped off now since I removed a lot of emissions junk from my NA/KA. I don't see why I can't just use those..........

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hmm im sure u can any vaccuum off the intake manifold should work. thats an idea for me

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There are a good 3-5 sources under there that you won't use if you've taken off AIV, EGR, Carbon Cannister, etc. That could do a lot to clean up having to make T's and such, and they'll be an actual reading of what the manifold is seeing, hell, it'd almost look stock..........which I always like.......

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ive got one small hose that ran to my intake that i dont know what it is. it comes from somewhere under the TB. its the smallest of the 3 hoses that attach to the intake. does anyone know what it is and what i should do with it before boosting?

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It's a vacuum line, I'd just cap it if I were you. Cap it at the tree under the TB.

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also, structure, i found my fpr, and there are 2 hoses coming off the top of it. one goes away from the engine to what looks like the egr. the other hose goes towards the engine and down, i cant see where it goes. is that the one i need to T off of?

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trpower7 wrote:It's a vacuum line, I'd just cap it if I were you. Cap it at the tree under the TB.


or... could i use it to run to my bov and boost gauge?

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You sure could. Have at it.

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daniel- i think the second one u mentioned. its should be alot longer than the other one and come down the back/side of the intake manifold.

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thanks but i didnt notice that it was very long. i think i will just use the small one that connected to my intake that trpower said i could use.


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