wanting to build a a kat

[logan_cox]

i am wanting to boost my ka. the car is going to be my daily drive so i want to do it right and make good power. i am going to leave the internals stock for no, i want to get a good setup and tune. i was thinking gt28 turbo. 480 injectors. safc and walbro fuel pump. i know there is alot more that needs to go into the project but i just want to get a good feedback and some pointer on what i am getting myself into. i have been doing research and im going to keep searching.

[Kalypso]

FIRST POST!!!



so whats your question... you'll need a manifold, dump pipe, intercooler and piping.

cams maybe? I dont know....

KA turbos are all the rage these days.

[Tyler]

thats a good starter list, you will need a lot more but it seems like you know that. and your not getting yourself into anything too difficult! to make your life eaiser, i would suggest ditching the safc and running a rom tune like jwt or efi specialists. also, what are your power goals? and most of all just read read read everything in the ka-t section, you will learn everything you need to know!

[logan_cox]

i want to put a top mount mani on it. my hp goal is 250whp. i need to figure out what inch piping and exhaust. i want to go with safc because of the cost.

[Tyler]

do you want a top mount mani just to show off your pretty turbo? cause all top mounts i know of are t3 and its a bit more dificult to run exhaust/intercooler piping when your top mount, because of downpipe issues. if you still wanna go top mount, check out jgs tools.com the offer a good top mount starter kit with DP. but in all honesty you can get an easy 250whp with a bottom mount t28 set up and it will most likely be cheaper. also, safc cant control timing, so you will also need a msd btm or something of the sort, and its still not a good way to go. i would get a rom tune and be done with it, EFI Specialists are not that expensive, check them out. 3 inch exhaust is fine, and 2.5 inch IC piping is more then enough

[logan_cox]

i would like to show off my turbo. just never had a top mount setup. i think they look sick. i did some more research on the ecu and i think im going to go with a tunable ecu. when i install the new fuel pump. should i install a fuel regulater also

[Tyler]

yes! thats a very important thing most people forget. so if you havent already check out jgstools.com for a good cheap t3 top mount starter kit, i would buy it with the wastegate, but without a turbo. then you can find a cheap 50 trim t3/t4 .48 a/r and you will be golden for your power level

[kouki_hmongster]

do you want a top mount mani just to show off your pretty turbo? cause all top mounts i know of are t3 and its a bit more dificult to run exhaust/intercooler piping when your top mount, because of downpipe issues. if you still wanna go top mount, check out jgs tools.com the offer a good top mount starter kit with DP. but in all honesty you can get an easy 250whp with a bottom mount t28 set up and it will most likely be cheaper.

Top mount isnt for showing off your turbo, it depends on what mani you buy. Full-race is a good topmount or peakboost. but of course the bottom T3 manifolds are also good and lowers center of gravity, but it will make it difficult to mount the turbo intake pipe unless you delete your AC unit. this is the reason why top mount is good for us KA-T, dont have to sacrifice AC and powersteering.

[Tyler]

oh im well aware

[logan_cox]

found this turbo kit now i was going to build my own kit but this is really cheap. i was wondering if i could still keep my a/c and powersteering http://yhst-64458468724132.sto....html

[Tyler]

i wouldnt get that kit, its just a renamed ebay kit and its more then likely going to fail on you. do it right or do it twice, its up to you

[logan_cox]

i understand that. i want to do it the best i can but i want to keep the price low as possible i found a coulpe other kits one from extreameturbo systems for about 3gs. also thinking about doing it myself but i feel that will take to long for me to put everything together. since this will be my first time lol

[Tyler]

well you can base what you need to buy off of that kit, but just dont buy it. buy quality stuff instead. mani, turbo,wastegate, downpipe, exhaust, injectors, intercooler, fuel pump, fpr, tune, bov, oil lines, coolant lines, gauges. thats mostly everything you need

[logan_cox]

okay so im getting the idea these turbo kits arent that great of an idea. i have been reading the forms and everyone seems to say i got that kit but i wish i would of built my own etc... i have been looking at some top mount manis and i think i will prolly go with the fullrace. turbo i think im going with the gt28 and 370 sr injectures with an fmu. should i get steal braided oil lines?

[kouki_hmongster]

okay so im getting the idea these turbo kits arent that great of an idea. i have been reading the forms and everyone seems to say i got that kit but i wish i would of built my own etc... i have been looking at some top mount manis and i think i will prolly go with the fullrace. turbo i think im going with the gt28 and 370 sr injectures with an fmu. should i get steal braided oil lines?

Well, i dont think fullrace makes a t2 manifold for the ka24de. From what i remember they only make t3 top mount manifold. So go with something like gt3076r, these turbo will boost really fast for the ka's and can make up to 400+whp(depending on boost level). Fullrace mani's are good but too much $$.

[logan_cox]

okay.... who make the gt3076r made by. is want a good mani but i dont know to much about product or companys i want to get a good reliable product but not the bank. if you guy could steer me in the right direction that would be great. i surf the web and do my research but there is no better research than hearing it from people with personal exsperience

[j-z]

yeah man... have you looked into how much a full race mani actually cost??? you can build your own kit with an ebay mani for the same price. if you want the best of the best then full race it is. i would go with a bigger turbo. a t3/t4 combo has been proven over and over again on KAs. everyone else has covered the basics. i agree with others. get a jgs mani, jgs downpipe, buy a brand new turbo, ebay fmic, and ebay 2.5 IC piping kit, used wastegate (namebrand-tial-), used bov, jgs oil line kit, ebay sr downpipe, and your choice of a 3'' exhaust, rom tune, walbro pump, deatcshwerks 555s, and you should be golden for 300 whp very reliably on the stock ka. boost controller too if you want (my fav is the first gen profec b). source out the parts individually, and you will save alot of $$$ in the long run. buy all the shlt from JGS at the same time.

[kouki_hmongster]

okay.... who make the gt3076r made by. is want a good mani but i dont know to much about product or companys i want to get a good reliable product but not the bank. if you guy could steer me in the right direction that would be great. i surf the web and do my research but there is no better research than hearing it from people with personal exsperience

Garret makes this turbo, but these turbos cost 1100+. If you're on a budget then i dont think this is what you're are looking for. there are more turbo out there that can produce good amount of power at a lower cost but you should research more before you start spending $$.

you can try phase2motortrend.com they usually carry great products and you can search the turbo and manifold options. just dont like the idea of them selling those eGay T2 manifold, and i bought one from them but now i have a peak boost manifold and maybe a GT35r aiming for 400+whp w/ my enthalpy ecu, nismo 740cc etc... . But then again i am fully built! not stock internals.

I think the best route for you would be the jgs as stated by j-z. Just to let you know these manifolds are the best for the PRICE. if you upgrade to manifold like the peakboost or full-race you should expect a gain of fast spool and over 30whp gain. this is comparing with the jgs manifold. So depending on how much you want to spend.

But then again if you are stock internal and if its your dailyride then you shouldnt go past 300whp just to be on the safe side. even though it is proven that 400+whp can be made w/ stock internal, i dont think it's a good idea unless if its your track car.

[logan_cox]

i forgot to add i do have a t3/t4 turbo sitting in my closet it is an ebay turbo but one of my buddys said to just rebuild the internal on it and it will do fine

[logan_cox]

alright guys i have had a latenight to say the least. after i get started its hard to stop.so anyways to the point of this post.

this is the kit i put togethermani-jgs-412turbo-gt35r or a t03/04e 60trim 60 a/r(enjukuracing)bov-used greddywastegate- new tialinjectors-deatcshwerks 555s maybe 480sfuel pump-walbrofmic-egaydownpipe-egayoil line-jgs

adding up my kit its going to cost around 2500is that a good price for a good quality kit?

[Tyler]

thats a good start, it will cost more then that tho cause you forgot some stuff

[kouki_hmongster]

Honestly it's always going to cost more than what you want it to. gasket and extra bolts and other crapp that will show up while installing the turbo.

I think you're forgetting about the main part, ECU tune... Get something like JWT(usually tunes turn out to be on the rich side) or enthalpy(hard to reach). Or the cheapest route for ecu would be something like efispecialist, heard he is pretty good, i have enthalpy and my car runs really good.

wideband is a must!!!, boost gauge, highly recommend fuelpressure regulator something like aeromotive since stock fpr crapp out on many of the ka-t rides.

GL

[logan_cox]

i am actually good on the ecu tune i have a buddy in garland that is a mad man with tunes. i was talking to him yesterday and he said he would do it for me. i had a feeling i was going to have to spend more than that with the extra stuff im going to have to buy. thats why i was wondering why all these people are so aginst these ka-t kits?

[j-z]

ummm dont forget about the jgs downpipe as well to bolt to your ebay sr downpipe. other than that you should be good along with what others have listed. OH, and a beefy clutch too . spec stage 3 is what ive always used.

[Tyler]

i am actually good on the ecu tune i have a buddy in garland that is a mad man with tunes. i was talking to him yesterday and he said he would do it for me. i had a feeling i was going to have to spend more than that with the extra stuff im going to have to buy. thats why i was wondering why all these people are so aginst these ka-t kits?

we are against them cause most of the time they dont work like they are susposed to, some people have been lucky tho. but you can get a wayyyyy better kit for the same money if you just look for deals and piece one together yourself. the JGS kit is the only kit id recommend. and there will ALWAYS be extra stuff that pops up that you dont know you need, in every one of my builds i figure in at least a $500 cushion for the unexpected.

[logan_cox]

okay i get that. well i am about to start ordering my parts starting with my turbo...