Want flush fit for xxr 527 wheels on stock s13

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What would be the ideal offset for a setup like this?


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The 527s are basically tailor made for the s-chassis so they'll fit pretty flush out of the box. Dont do it if you're not lowered, it'll look dumb.

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527's are nice, I have two sets. My only comment is their offset can clash with your coilovers. Ive seen some S13's where they could bolt right up, but not all. Mine are 17x9.75, and they hit my coilovers. I measured it and i needed a 15mm spacer minimum to make them clear in the front. To top this, S13 front wheels stick out a little more than the rear from the factory and it looks a little stupid. So I needed to get 15mm up front, and something more in the rear so it would look right. I ended up going a little big for clearance, but I'm happy. I think I have 20mm up front, and 30mm in the rear. This made me have to roll/pull my fenders.

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You probably wouldn't have to go this extreme, but I like how mine turned out.

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Thanks guys!
CJH, that's the look I'm wanting in the future. what coils are you running?
That's about the exact size I was thinking, or 17x8.25. Any thoughts there?
Are your 527's +25mm offset?
I'm brainstorming here and I appreciate all the feedback!

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I have s*** coils that I hope to replace soon. NEX. They work at the moment though. They were my first mod at 19, 8 years ago when I didn't have money.

The rims fit in the rear fine, but hit up front. Yes I have 527's 17x9.75 +25 on all four corners. The 17x8.25 are smaller, so you probably wouldn't hit up front and then you wouldn't need spacers.

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I gotcha. Thanks for all the info here. Where did you buy your xxr's? Anyone know of a site with the best deals, maybe tire/wheel packages?

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CJH, I really dig your car's look. What all do you have going on for skirts, rear end, etc? Wish I had some money for a silvia front. haha

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You can buy them anywhere. Its all about the same price.

OEM rep front, side, and rear lip. The sides and rear need to be painted yet.

Here's a side shot mid drift. Gives you a better idea of how she looks.
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CJH wrote:I have s*** coils that I hope to replace soon. NEX. They work at the moment though. They were my first mod at 19, 8 years ago when I didn't have money.

The rims fit in the rear fine, but hit up front. Yes I have 527's 17x9.75 +25 on all four corners. The 17x8.25 are smaller, so you probably wouldn't hit up front and then you wouldn't need spacers.
What size tire were you running? Anything that isn't stretched is gonna have more clearance issues as well.

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I'm stretched. As mentioned, 17x9.75 on all four corners. 225/45 up front and 235/45 in the rear. I wanted a 40 sidewall, but that size isn't easy to come by. To fit, I rolled and pulled my fenders. Also, I did some hammer action in the wheel wells. The coilovers weren't even hitting the tires, without the spacers they were hitting the rim.
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I have the 8.25s on my car. They're pretty good. They clear everything with no issues (I don't have coilovers), they're lighter than the 9.75s and you can fit a 245 on there.

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Nice looking 240 krash. This is all very helpful. I'm torn between going 8.25 or 9.75. I really like that wider look.. Are the 9.75's a deeper concave? Or is that just my eyes tricking me?

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dconley09 wrote:I gotcha. Thanks for all the info here. Where did you buy your xxr's? Anyone know of a site with the best deals, maybe tire/wheel packages?
Not all vendors sell them for the same prices. Don't believe that garbage. NL Motoring has the lowest XXR prices that I have seen and they often have exclusive sizes/finishes. You can also check the classifieds for Advertisers Specials. They always seem to slash prices around the holidays & tax season.

If you had Megan coilovers, you could use their extended bracket to avoid needing spacers to use the 17x9.75+25's all around.

I will never understand for the life of me the hype around the 527's. 535's look waaay better, IMO and offer 18x10.25 for staggered fitment if you have 5 lug. No offense to anyone, but I think any wheel less that 9 inches wide on an S-chassis is a waste of time & money.

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Thanks for the input simmode1. I don't mind the 535's at all. But for my s13 coupe I really like the look of the 527's. I just checked out NL and they do have a really good price. I have a 4 lug as well. I'm thinking the same on wheel width. Those 9.75's seem like a really nice look. I was thinking godspeed coilovers with these wheels. Any thoughts there? I know they are relatively cheap compared to the higher end coils, but they are fully adjustable and seem pretty solid for the price?

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simmode1 wrote: I will never understand for the life of me the hype around the 527's. 535's look waaay better, IMO and offer 18x10.25 for staggered fitment if you have 5 lug. No offense to anyone, but I think any wheel less that 9 inches wide on an S-chassis is a waste of time & money.
Eh, function vs. form really. Not that 527s are "performance wheels" in any way. But on the 8.25s you can fit 245s all around (which is actually a nice bit of tire). The bigger XXRs weigh quite a bit more and its not really worth it IMO. If I get a bigger wheel it would have to be 17x9.5 RPF1s.

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krash wrote:Eh, function vs. form really. Not that 527s are "performance wheels" in any way. But on the 8.25s you can fit 245s all around
True. You hit the nail onf the head here. My opinion was purely of the aesthetics of the tire fitment on either wheel size. I'd rather fit a 245/40 on a 17x9 than a 17x8.25 merely becauseI don't want my wheels/tires to have that overly fat rubber look. But to each his own.

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dconley09 wrote:Thanks for the input simmode1. I don't mind the 535's at all. But for my s13 coupe I really like the look of the 527's. I just checked out NL and they do have a really good price. I have a 4 lug as well. I'm thinking the same on wheel width. Those 9.75's seem like a really nice look. I was thinking godspeed coilovers with these wheels. Any thoughts there? I know they are relatively cheap compared to the higher end coils, but they are fully adjustable and seem pretty solid for the price?
No problem man. I think I just like the 535's because they remind me of Nismo LMGT4's a little bit. But if all you're looking for is a budget coilover, Godspeed can do the job just fine, I guess. They get decent reviews by those who have them. But I personally wouldn't buy those.

If I were going for a budget coilover, I'd get Megan Streets or Tracks merely for the wider range of wheel/tire fitment options they provide when you include their extended bracket add-on. The brackets give you an extra 25mm worth of space to work with & the money you spend on them will save you money & effort that you'd spend on using spacers to clear your coilovers. With an extra 25mm worth of space up front, that's how you encounter the possibllity of getting low while still fitting 255's under the stock front fenders.

I have no idea why no other company besides Megan offers those extended brackets. I'd MUCH rather prefer a coilover like Fortune Auto's 500 series, but Megan manages to keep itself relevant to me because of that bracket.

Of course, you could also do a custom Koni Yellow + Ground Control sleeve combo. But to match the versitility of most off-the shelf coilovers, you're talking about a $2000+ DIY coilover build. It'll be vastly superior to most off the shelf coilovers, but most lose interest when you start talking about that kinda money & effort.

But bro, seriously. Do yourself a massive favor and do coilovers & 5 lug swap before wheels. 5 lug swap is like $300 now... Your wheel options literally explode at that point. Why would you not?!?

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Heres my fitment on these wheels took lots of measurements and asking around on my part so ill share what i have with you.

XXR 527's 17x8.25 +25 front and rear wrapped in Nexen N3000 235/40 R17 I have a slight roll in the rear just so i didnt have to run crazy camber. I have Neg 1.8 degree in the rear and neg 1.2 in the front i believe not positive as i cant find my alignment sheet. I wanted as much of the 235 to be on the ground as possible. Im running stance super sport lowered just enough so i can still clear the massive speed bumps in my apartment complex. I had the car corner balanced on the coils and i tell you it does make a difference. i have no rubbing issues at all and actually have room to go wider tires if i were to run a higher offset of course.

I recommend stance super sports for coils if you can get your hands on them for the money they are amazing. They ride perfect. very smooth and no bounce at all. they can go tons lower then what i have them set to but the roads near me are less then favorable for a low car. these coils paired with fully adjustable arms front and rear make for a great grippy ride.


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dconley09 wrote:Nice looking 240 krash. This is all very helpful. I'm torn between going 8.25 or 9.75. I really like that wider look.. Are the 9.75's a deeper concave? Or is that just my eyes tricking me?

the concave will have most to do with the offset. the higher the offset the less concave or "lip" if the wheel has one.

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dconley09 wrote:I gotcha. Thanks for all the info here. Where did you buy your xxr's? Anyone know of a site with the best deals, maybe tire/wheel packages?

as for best place to get im i got them online with tires shipped. The shop they came from is in Chicago called TOPSPEED autosport they are a pretty legit place and ive done business with them many times before.

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Hey guys. I'm still in the market for wheels but my sr swap is where the money is going at this point. That being said, I'll still be getting the 8.25's or 9.75's at some point. Does anyone have a pic from the rear of these wheels? I'd like to get a visual on how the width looks on an s13?

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So I figured that instead of starting a new thread, I would just bounce off of this one since my questions are somewhat similar. I'm going with xxr 530 rims but with 17 x 8.25 up front and 17 x 9.75 in the rear with +25mm on all 4 corners. I would like to know what tire size to run without having to do any modification to my fenders. I'm thinking 235/40/17 but I've been searching the last 2 days and can't get a definitive answer from the internet. I'm willing to step down in the size of the tires if need be, but I would like as much tire as possible. Any suggestions?

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dconley09 wrote:I gotcha. Thanks for all the info here. Where did you buy your xxr's? Anyone know of a site with the best deals, maybe tire/wheel packages?
Not all vendors sell them for the same prices. Don't believe that garbage. NL Motoring has the lowest XXR prices that I have seen and they often have exclusive sizes/finishes. You can also check the classifieds for Advertisers Specials. They always seem to slash prices around the holidays & tax season.

If you had Megan coilovers, you could use their extended bracket to avoid needing spacers to use the 17x9.75+25's all around.

I will never understand for the life of me the hype around the 527's. 535's look waaay better, IMO and offer 18x10.25 for staggered fitment if you have 5 lug. No offense to anyone, but I think any wheel less that 9 inches wide on an S-chassis is a waste of time & money.
I know this thread is a little old but I'm running Megan track coils on my s13. So does that mean I could run 9.75 up front with no clearance issues? Also I was wondering about this extension bracket do have any pics of it I'm not sure what it looks like.


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