Walbro or Brembro brakes

[The Mic]

My bro and sis asked me what i want for Xmas and i have a choice between a walbro fuel pump and brembro brakes. I know brakes are really important so i was thinking of that but then i thought if getting a fuel pump is an absolute must, so now im doubting myself bc i wanted to raise the boost and ive heard if i dont get an upgraded fuel pump than my pistons will melt when i raise the boost above 10 psi. what do you think guys??

[drifter_for_life06]

IMHO id say the brakes, i mean the brakes are 149.99 for front and 149.99 for rear so the brakes if you're gettn all 4 are gon cost you aroudn 300bucks.But the Walbro 255 fuel pump only costs 129.99IF they are willing to spend 300 tell them brakes

BTW: these prices are from http://www.enjukuracing.com

[The Mic]

yeah i was thinking about the price, so is an upgraded fuel pump for an sr absolutely neccesary when raising boost??? bc if not then ill split the cost with them for the brakes

[Onizuka]

walbro fuel pump = $90 shipped off ebaybrembo rotors all around = $300+ shipped

-matt

[drifter_for_life06]

its not 100% necesary, but 100% recommended

[D1SR240]

why don't u get the brakes, then wait intill you get a fuel pump till rasing the boost

[themadscientist]

why not 300ZX calipers with stock pads?

[Phax]

Upgrade the brakes. The only thing more boost is going to do is accelerate you more quickly toward a solid object, that your stock brakes are already incapiable of preventing you from hitting.

[drifter_for_life06]

very well put phax, the brakes as stated earleir would be my choice, you can always use more stopping power, but the more power you have and the less stopping power you have, you can do without

[The Mic]

ok now im getting the brembo rotors, but i have another question, my car has ABS and i could only find the brake rotors that are non-abs 4lug for my s13. Does it make a difference? if it does couldnt i just use the s14 brake rotors that do have abs that are 5 lug? rotors?And if i want to do a 5lug conversion all i have to do is change from 4 lug brake rotors to 5 lug right?

Thanks-mZ

[The Mic]

and are using 300zx calipers as efficient as upgrading the rotors???

[fiznat]

couple things:

1. I called up heavythrottle for a price on the brembos a couple days ago cause I need new rotors myself (mine are warped ), they quoted me around $270 shipped for all 4.

2. I guess it seems like a good idea to people to "upgrade" the brakes if you've got a faster car, but seriously look at the physics of it: it takes the SAME amount of power to stop a turbocharged car going 60mph than it does to stop a NA car going 60mph. Honestly, unless you decide that now that you have an SR you need to go faster and brake later, you are NOT going to need a "brake upgrade" unless you're worried about brake fade or something like that at a real actual auto-x (or whatever) event.

3. Therefore, I say get the brakes if your brakes are worn or about to be worn, but dont go all out for some super 89 pot 3000gt zx racing puck brakes or whatever, just get some decent brembos or whatever if you want bling factor. Otherwise I say go for the fuel pump...

[prigo]

do the 300zx calipers bolt right on with zero effort?

[The Mic]

autocrossing is going to be one of the things on my to-do list when my car returns to me. so i prob am getting brembos, I just wanted to know bc themadscientist said to just get 300zx calipers with stock pads, im wondering if i could just get that instead of rotors and if if its just as efficient, and use the remaining cash for a fuel pump.

[fiznat]

there will be no remaining cash I dont think... unless you're gonna drill the 300zx brakes for 4 lug or something... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the brake upgrade kit is something like 1000 bucks... definetly not worth it in my opinion.

[The Mic]

aw man now way im just gonna get some brembo brakes

[trpower7]

Wow, this thread is FULL of misinformation. Please, some mod or another veteran jump in, I'm really lazy.........

1) Just Brembo rotors will not make much difference over stock unless they are cross-drilled and slotted. Even still, the difference isn't THAT much. It's all in the PADS. You want better braking, get better PADS.

2) The Z32 brake swap involves both front calipers, SS lines, pads, and Z32 rotors drilled to 4-lug. YOU HAVE TO GET ALL OF THAT!!!! No such thing as using Z32 rotors and stock calipers, Z32 calipers and stock rotors, etc. Your idea of what "brakes" are is flawed. A Z32 swap runs a minimum of around $350-$400 if you're good.

3) The fuel pump upgrade is damned near STANDARD for any SR, CA, RB, or KAT project.

4) "Brembo Brakes" usually means a full Brembo KIT, which runs around $2300 last I checked.

There is a lot of other misinformation in here. Please don't pay attention to it.

[The Mic]

Thanks a lot trpower7, youve made things a lot clearer now. I believe its standard to upgrade the fuel pump bc many ppl want to increase the boost. In my case, i dont want to increase boost just yet, , at least not for the time being until i get me a boost controller. So ill prob just go get me a set of adj shocks instead of rotors.

[Phax]

...I believe its standard to upgrade the fuel pump bc many ppl want to increase the boost....

I'm running stock boost, but I got a fuel pump because I wanted the additional safety margin.

With regards to brakes, you could get stainless lines and some good pads. Those will make the biggest difference in the braking characteristics of the car.

[Syntax360]

i vote fuel pump - are u gonna install the pump yourself or is bro including that in the cost? i just don't like the idea of u running an SR w/ teh stock fuel pump - i know it's adequate for stock boost, but it's been my experience that "just getting by" leads to problems.

[SmithSR]

S13GUY, what's the latest on your decision? Splitting the cost of new struts sounds like a good idea..

PHIL:)

[fiznat]

There is a lot of other misinformation in here. Please don't pay attention to it.

That doesnt really help if you dont say what it is that's wrong. For the record, MY post is 100% correct.

[The Mic]

hey, well the latest is that im getting a set of agx adj shocks. And since in selling my subs http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...07566

i might have extra $ to get a fuel pump too. I hope i get a decent amount of cash for my subs. I might evn buy new tires

[trpower7]

That doesnt really help if you dont say what it is that's wrong. For the record, MY post is 100% correct.

Here's the misinformation, starting from your first post:

1) 3. Therefore, I say get the brakes if your brakes are worn or about to be worn, but dont go all out for some super 89 pot 3000gt zx racing puck brakes or whatever, just get some decent brembos or whatever if you want bling factor. Otherwise I say go for the fuel pump...

Rebuff: If he wants "bling factor" he'll need a whole new set of BREMBO BRAKES. Not just rotors. Brembo blank rotors will look.....well......exactly like stock. And without PADS, the MOST ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF BRAKES, they won't help him stop any more than stockers. And a COMPLETE BREMBO KIT runs in the $3000 range.

2) there will be no remaining cash I dont think... unless you're gonna drill the 300zx brakes for 4 lug or something... Correct me if I'm wrong, but the brake upgrade kit is something like 1000 bucks... definetly not worth it in my opinion.

Rebuff: It wouldn't matter at all if he drilled the Z32 brakes for 4 lug if he DID NOT HAVE THE WHOLE KIT. If he goes out and buys Z32 rotors and redrills them to 4-lug they still won't work with his stock calipers. Also, go to your local autozone and price a pair of loaded calipers, rotors, and some good SS brake lines from projectsilvia. You're looking at around $600 MAX for all new parts WITH a core charge. The only place that has the kit for $1000 is pdm-racing, and most everyone has realized that piecing it together from new parts yourself is uber-cheaper.

This should make fairly obvious what is misinformation in the rest of this discussion. I'm not here to babysit you, learn more, think more, figure it out. Working off of what is said here is faulty at best.

[wisconS-14]

did you consider the 300zx fuel pump from a yard?

[Antyoo]

i say fuel pump,

i havent modded my 240 but i just busted the stock fuel pump on my celica, running an fmu, when i hit 10psi for the first time it was all the pump could take.

i would take a guess in saying that the stock 240 pump would be operating at its limit with an SR swap, over time it would just crap out and cause problems(my celica would go extremely lean)

[SRdave240]

Walbro fule pump = $99new SR = $2500

I'd get the pump. you can lean out with the 240sx pump even at low boost.

[usdm_180sx]

My bro and sis asked me what i want for Xmas and i have a choice between a walbro fuel pump and brembro brakes. I know brakes are really important so i was thinking of that but then i thought if getting a fuel pump is an absolute must, so now im doubting myself bc i wanted to raise the boost and ive heard if i dont get an upgraded fuel pump than my pistons will melt when i raise the boost above 10 psi. what do you think guys??

Dude let me help you out. The shop that did your swap should have recommended that you get the walbro when you got your swap done. The last thing you wanna do is blow your motor. If you do that you won't need brakes because your car won't even run

[i2ice4m3]

Do cross-drilled/slotted rotors help that much on the street? I would think the holes and slots reduce surface area the brake pads can contact. I agree with fiznat on not needing them unless it's for autocross or something that would require the brakes to be used heavily over and over again.

couple things:

2. I guess it seems like a good idea to people to "upgrade" the brakes if you've got a faster car, but seriously look at the physics of it: it takes the SAME amount of power to stop a turbocharged car going 60mph than it does to stop a NA car going 60mph. Honestly, unless you decide that now that you have an SR you need to go faster and brake later, you are NOT going to need a "brake upgrade" unless you're worried about brake fade or something like that at a real actual auto-x (or whatever) event.

You're right about the velocity thing..but shouldn't we be talking about acceleration? I'm assuming the turbo car will have greater acceleration than an N/A car, which would require a greater force to slow it down.