VQ35DE swapped competition setup silvia build

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I :heart: Touge wrote:don't need 5 lug for drifting?

are you kidding? bigger BRAKES will always help you with drifting!

man this site is full of newbs ahhhh
Says the Honda-driving bandwagoneer that thinks you need 5 lugs for bigger brakes?

Edit: Maybe I missed what the alcohol injection kit was for and not a fan of the wheels, but you deserve many e-props for actually undertaking such a project not many others have just yet.


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for those who want to make it a little bit easyer on them selfs to do the swap, if you use the HydaEMS ecu, it can use the drive by wire unlike the AEM ECU.

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so how much is this project costing you???

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BlackDragon328 wrote:
on a last note, i cant emphasize this enough. DONT START THIS SWAP UNLESS YOU HAVE AT LEAST 10K READY TO PUT INTO IT.I've heard of people doing it for less...but I wouldnt plan on that. I've also heard of people doing it for less and failing in the swap, or giving it to some cheap shop and having it badly done. be really careful, its a hard swap. as i did the labor myself it cost me a little less but I think it still took me about 6K-7K or so for the stock swap.

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blknismo180 wrote:so how much is this project costing you???

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Thanks fur the props.the alcohol injection kit is to make it street legal. it lowers emissions when u add methanol and water into the mix.I donno why but for some reason no one likes the sportmax wheels....maybe its the brand that makes people worried. If anyone cares to explain why they dont like the wheels I'd be happy to listen (...read).

as for how much the WHOLE PROJECT has cost so far. I just paid the bill for the exhaust (which i decided to let get done professionally) and it comes up to: $24,000 american dollars. It was at 22K before the exhaust and fuel cell, and i still have at least $500 of tuning and $500 to install the car alarm, which is so complicated and expensive I dont even want to try to install myself.So all in all I expect imma spend around 26K minimum to 28K maximum. not a cheap project, ill tell you that. but its worth it to have a well built car.In 8-10 months ill get another post going cuz imma rebuild the engine and place in a vortech supercharger.

btw the exhaust isnt done (its behind, but im used to the delays by now) so i have no new pics of it yet...Im sorry about that, those pics up there are pretty ****ty....I'll get em up once I get the car back. and ill get some pics of the exhaust line up too.

CJ

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so does anyone want to explain why those wheels are nto good wheels. I'm serious, if someone can give me a good reason I'll take em off and put some better ones on.

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someone photoshop a sunken battleship into each fenderwell... lol... jp

op, i think they are sexy but need to fit the wide fenders better.... flush wheels always look good. spacers maybe? or wider versions of the same wheel with better offset?

btw, your car is sex. keep up the hottness

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my PS isnt working or i'd make the sunken ships in teh wheel wells, lol. but seriously i think this project is great and has a lot of potential

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okay, so i looked into the spacers for the wheels and this is what i cam up with. spacing the rear wheels, as long as I use good spacers and thru bolt the assembly, instead of using ebay spacers (i've seen wheels fly off cuz of those, and its both sad and really funny to see) is a good, if not great idea. it will give it a wider base, making it easier to break traction and control it thereafter. aparently tho, spacing the front wheels is a horrible idea. its better to keep a smaller base, which is less likely to break free, and easier to control and work with.the reasoning sounds good so im going to look into spacing the rear. this is the problem, im drawing a blank on where i can find longer nissan bolts, and also QUALITY PROVEN spacers. there have been no articles I've found, website affidavits, or interviews where i have found proof of good spacers.......help?

the other thought is, there are none discussed because as long as the bolts are good, the spacer itself is of little importance.....is that it?Imma keep looking, if someone knows something I'd love to hear it.

update on the car....the exhaust specialist is on vacation in Vegas jk, he'll be home at the end of the week and will finish the exhaust (I saw the downpipes, its good lookin work)

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your got your self a mighty fine project there..

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It's so beautiful!! I'm gonna sit back and watch this thread

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Ill bring the beer.

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LoL sounds great!!

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done deal.

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and it better be Pacifico with lime!!

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White Comet wrote:
thats great!

nice swap!

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s14tan wrote:Ill bring the beer.
lol are u even legal to buy?

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It's called, hey Mister!!

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lol, whatever works

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okay, quick update:

the project hasnt really moved much since like 3 weeks ago or so. christmas, new years....etc, all those holidays has basically stalled it, so its still at the muffler shop getting the exhaust and fuel cell put in......I saw the guy on thursday and he said it would be done before next friday.

so hopefully I'll have more pics soon. Imma put up some pics of the exhaust too as soon as its done. I know I've said this like 4 times, bear with me its really not easy to get work done on time

Happy new year to everyone

peace


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I was going to say frsport.com for the wheel spacers, but they only have 5 lug ones. The reason you see the wheel falling off from ebay is probably from noobs who didnt lengthen their original studs. I'm sure you could call up a nissan dealer or go to nissanparts.org and they could source some studs that would match and be longer for you.

Awesome build so far though man, I'm subscribing to this. Very nice parts list, quality is always a good idea if you can afford baller sh1t :P

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^ mrgreeneys is getting longer studs but i cant remember from where off the top of my head

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hooooly sh*t, after......way too long. I finally got new pictures. yay...

so here we go.

most of the swap is done, we are working on the fuel system right now, fuel cell, external pump, filter, and regulator....and lines. its not too bad, its pretty easy. just time consuming.here are some overall pics of the car, i got a good one of the back so everyone could see the mitsubi evo wing and not bash on me anymore

first, the front of the car, still looks kinda weird cuz the bumper and silvia grill piece are not on.

here is a good offset view of the car

The little man behind the curtain making the wheels move

and the long awaited pic of the offset rear is finally here!!

a pic of the interior, from the exterior of the car

this is the fuel cell container, we took out the spare wheel spot to put it in

and here is the fuel cell, happily sitting in the spot designated for it

not happy with the pics? bite me! no just kidding, actually if someone wants to request a specific pic, im down to take it.Ill have some of the exhaust coming in, i just didnt have time to put my car on the lift before it started to rain (in santa barbara, ca, its raining, and i dont have my car ready for the track or the canyons....thats so not right, God is teasing me )

in other news....lets see, im grabbing a wet 50 shot nitrous kit for it, not sure if its for show or use yet. Im just going to hook it up and if there is a weakness in the VQ (or in my technique) ill shore it up with a small shot of nitrous. the reason for this is simply because i picked up a nice kit, slightly used, for cheap.a lot of gauges are going into it, I placed a sandwich plate on the oil filter to draw oil temp and pressure. I have a water temp gauge coming in, a big tach and a fuel level gauge, since the oem will not work with the cell.

the exhaust is finnished!! $2500 went into it if i count the parts and tubing(that includes the fuel cell box....i got em done at the same place)

next on the list is fuel system, then we attack the hydraulic e-brake, the lines, and welding in the supports for the calipers operated by it. I can guarentee that its easier to say then to do, i actually think it will be a pain in the right a** cheek....but this whole car has been, i guess i just enjoy the challenge. im stupid that way

peace

CJ
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btw for the longer studs, i heard that and im looking. on my mechanic's advice, i will not be going with spacers till i have taken it to one event and tested it.

feedback anyone:I found one set of spacers that sells with longer studs made by ichiba. i have hardly any info in it (why is it so hard to get info on spacers) I know the company makes good 5 lug conversions and i know the company is expensive. I got one person who told me that the studs "broke" on his ichiba spacers.....I tried to get him to go into details and he revealed he was completely ignorant of anything to do with mechanics, wheels or anything to do with cars. so i think the guy f*cked up more then anything else.so can someone competent give me feedback, or if someone knows of another company.....

btw i love the good feedback, it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside to know people like what they see me doing buuut, does anyone have something negative to say. im not asking you to call me an idiot, im just wondering where, if somewhere am i screwing up. one mind can only see so many things. its the reason i posted this online to begin with.

thanx

CJ

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I like it. I don't like all the foam on the roll bar. but all in all it looks good. It used to have a sr in it right? it looks like it did from how you have a sr radiator .

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good try but no....I see how you can have thought that. yes its an SR radiaor but thats only cuz the 350Z radiator was crazy expensive compared to the Sr one, and I had my little idea on making the rad. lines like I did.it used to be all stock with an SOHC in it.....

btw the foam doesnt look great, but its going to keep me from smaking my helmet on a bar if i crash and maybe save my life....so yea, its necesary even tho i would much rather have painted the whole cage gold and have it nice and shiny.
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When you referred to a caliper needing to be welded on for the e-brake were you saying that you gonna have a stand alone caliper for your e-brake?

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yes, its going to be better on the brakes, and if one system fails, the other may not. especially if for example the ebrake springs a leak, it wont affect my regular brakes.

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Is it all gonna be custom fabbed or can you buy a kit?

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BlackDragon328 wrote:good try but no....I see how you can have thought that. yes its an SR radiaor but thats only cuz the 350Z radiator was crazy expensive compared to the Sr one, and I had my little idea on making the rad. lines like I did.it used to be all stock with an SOHC in it.....

btw the foam doesnt look great, but its going to keep me from smaking my helmet on a bar if i crash and maybe save my life....so yea, its necesary even tho i would much rather have painted the whole cage gold and have it nice and shiny.
Right on good to know! I can dig the padding.



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