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Hello everyone,

I am trying to judge interest in a mounting kit for the VQ motor into their 240sx. At the moment this has been used on a S13. The person that I contacted said that the cost can come down if there are more sold. I am trying to see if anyone would be in the market. Trying to get about 5 people are so for the mount. Currently it is the cross member for a drop in application and we are working on a trans mount but eta is not known at the moment. These mounts will be able to with stand 500+ hp with out problems. If anyone is concerned about the quality of the product, they are being made a current fabricator that works for a VERY well known Formula D team. Thanks for your time!

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There's alot of interest, but a few other members are also selling kits. what sets your kit apart from the competition?

Is your's just for RWD VQ's or will you also make mounts for FWD VQ's into RWD cars?

Will you make mounts compatible with VQ30DET's?

What's the price like?

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simmode1 wrote:There's alot of interest, but a few other members are also selling kits. what sets your kit apart from the competition?

Is your's just for RWD VQ's or will you also make mounts for FWD VQ's into RWD cars?

Will you make mounts compatible with VQ30DET's?

What's the price like?
Thanks for your post. These kits are for RWD models and should clear a turbo option BUT have not been tested at the moment. I have not seen VQ30DET's mounts at the moment but would be more than happy to take a look. For the price, I have been quoted in the $300 to $400.

Thanks again!

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Thanks for the reply! There is alot of interest for VQ mount kits. So the more options, the better I suppose. Personally, I would need to see/know a couple of things before I express serious interest, like:

-The proposed product in action.-The manufacturer's name so we can check out their reputation.-Examples of the manufacturer's quality and customer service.

We don't want another VQswap.com/Z fever episode here.

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I would be very interested in a well manufactured, competitively priced kit.

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Thanks again,

This product has been made aS a one off for a known car on the forums. I need to make a few phone calls before I post exactly who because I don't want to step on anyone's toes and want to be respectful of the owner of the car as well as the fabricator. I don't mean to be so vague but would like to contact the correct people to get a final on how they want it to be handled. For the quality of the fabricator, think of a know Formula D IS350....I hope to have more information shortly so stay tuned.

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sancosys wrote:Thanks again,

This product has been made aS a one off for a known car on the forums.

Aaron
Oh really? I'm gonna try to guess who... I'm thinking 110Octane's Vader Vert with the ITB's on his VQ35.

Eh? Eh? Am I right?

I'll wait for the info, though. Thanks for contributing to the boards!

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I spoke with the person that will be making the mounts a bit ago. He should get back to me in a couple days for the exact cost on the engine mount. I am out of town for a few weeks more weeks (9) for work so the trans mount will take a little long to get details on as well as the shifter relocation. This isn't something that should be rushed so it will be treated that way. I would hate to send a product out that isn't ready for market just to get them out there. It wouldn't be fair to the buyer and would just destroy any reputations.

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S'all good. I'm not ready to buy right now anyway. I just want lots of options available when I am ready to buy...

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UPDATE:

Wanted to share a picture of the mounts



As for a kit, the trans mount is not ready yet. Thank for looking!

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I want a vq sooo bad in my hatch.

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VQ35 is mehhh, VQ40 out of the Frontier/Pathfinder is what's hott!

270HP/290TQ

Can you say 400SX?

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those are the best ones ive seen so far. are they available now lmk i need a set for my swap. do these work on a fwd engine in my s14 lmk thanks

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ddgsxr504 wrote:VQ35 is mehhh, VQ40 out of the Frontier/Pathfinder is what's hott!

270HP/290TQ

Can you say 400SX?
Find us someone who has successfully completed this, and maybe then we'll jump on the bandwagon. So far, I'm hearing that swap has even greater obstacles than the VQ35 swaps...

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those mounts look sexy

so far I am misinformed about the VQs because it is always this iffy info about them. But, now it seems like this option is coming together really well

I subscribe to keep in mind this swap exists and would be fine in Cali, with that said I dont mind if is the next bandwagon. it could also translate to a better supported platform


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^^^ There's plenty of info about VQ/S-chassis swaps now if you know where to look. Maybe not as much as SR or RB swaps, but it's enough to get you started and answer all the major questions of the swap.

I think it's right and proper for the VQ to become the next bandwagon swap. All the pro's about these motors make the most sense of any other option.

-Greater displacement than SR, KA or RB.-Weighs less tham RB, KA, LSx, 2JZ and just barely more than an SR.-The VQ's placement & weight distribution effectively makes 240's into mid-ship engine cars.-Most VQ motors and replacement parts can be easily sourced here in the U.S.-You get a nice 6sd transmission...-Have you seen a stock VQ35's dyno graph?! Talk about torque curve...

The list goes on and on...

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It does have a lot of advantages. Personally I will jump into an engine/car that I get a chance to drive in first and see if I like it. Then I look into the massive threads of info with a project in mind. In the meantime it's good to see what others are doing to get their nut.

for example, I don't like that 3.5K rpm at 80mph in the SR, so in that sense the 6speed sounds nice. The s2000 has a 6speed and the engine sits well behind the crossmember, no torque and VTEC sounds like it's going to break. but it's still a blast. Test drive as many layouts as you can, you'll see that in the end you can be happy with what you have. every platform has enough potential.

get to drive an S-chassis with a VH or a VQ is for sure in my to do list

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safin wrote:get to drive an S-chassis with a VH or a VQ is for sure in my to do list
Yeah, I'd like to ride in a VH 240 as well. I would think the weight of that motor would make the car really nose heavy, but I hear ppl say it's not that big of a deal... I dunno though...

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Those look like wonderful mounts. I'm leaning towards the vq for my s14 project. We will see what happens though since money talks

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Thanks for the kind words everyone!

Simmode1 - Thanks for your input and support.

I personally wanted to use the VQ motor for accessibility of parts and legality in CA. When I can make a trip down to my local Nissan for something and not get my car impounded for whats under the hood, I like it. Also I just think its cool. SR, RB, VH, etc. is all about what YOU like. Bandwagon, easy, trend, whatever I give props to whoever is doing what THEY want with their car (unless its complete crap ) The mounts are being shipped to me and I will be home in a couple weeks. Thanks for looking!

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hey dont know if you missed my posts but im highly interested in a set but are they good for a fwd engine into my 240sx lmk thanks

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98whitemax wrote:hey dont know if you missed my posts but im highly interested in a set but are they good for a fwd engine into my 240sx lmk thanks
Sorry about that! I did miss your post. The mounts have been designed for a RWD motor. At the moment there is no ETA for FWD VQ mounts. Best of luck!

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simmode1 wrote:
Yeah, I'd like to ride in a VH 240 as well. I would think the weight of that motor would make the car really nose heavy, but I hear ppl say it's not that big of a deal... I dunno though...
Are you aware the VH is an aluminum motor?

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Rex wrote:Are you aware the VH is an aluminum motor?
Yeah, but unless the 'Ultimate Engine Weight' thread is wrong, the VH45DE still weighs 509lbs versus the KA/SR/VQ which are all in the 300+lbs range.

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I'd expect it to be heavier than an SR, not nearly double, but heavier. I'd also expect all the non-aluminum 4 cyl motors to weigh more than the SR, though probably not more than the VH.

Sure would be nice to have some solid numbers.

Also worth mentioning, that to support most of the "V" swaps, you'd need to relo the battery, thus reducing the front by ~40 and increasing the rear by ~40. That would allow a ~80 increase in the front while having little to no impact on the F/R weight bias.

And I'm 90% sure a fully dressed VH is lighter than a fully dressed RB and I don't recall hearing anyone talk about an RB swapped S-Chassis car being all out of balance??

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Rex wrote:I don't recall hearing anyone talk about an RB swapped S-Chassis car being all out of balance??
I do... but again, the feedback is debatable without any real comparison numbers. No one bothers to corner weigh their cars before and after swaps...

People with VH/RB/2JZ/LSx swapped cars always have smiles on their faces while they're driving, so I'm sure the issue is probably no big deal. I'm just the kind of guy that gets hung up on the symantics of the thing. I just look at the engine bay photos of each swap and the VQ's placement/estimated weight seems the most optimal and makes it the most appealing to me.

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simmode1 wrote:... the VQ's placement/estimated weight seems the most optimal and makes it the most appealing to me.
Until you find yourself behind the wheel of a well tuned, free breathing VH. I can't imagine what a ~2800 lb S-chassis car would feel like, but I know how much fun a 4200 lb Q45 is with one ... I miss that car.

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I can vouch for these mounts. The fab work is impeccable.

The trans mount and shifter locator are in the works in the next few months.

I have talked to SPD Metal Works about also putting online instructions on how to modify the subframe via http://www.spdmetalworks.com. Hopefully we can get that going soon as well.

Stay Tuned and get your VQ's ready!!!

Thanks to Sancosys for making this thread.

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I know the VH's published power rating is lower than it actually is, but after comparing the stock dyno's of 350Z VQ35DE and GSRacer's VH45DE swapped s14 when the motor was still stock, I don't really see a lot of advantage in the VH. At least not in stock form.

The VH dyno'd about 40hp more than VQde's that I've seen but both had similarly impressive torque curves. Now that 40hp advantage the VH has is nothing to sneeze at. But neither is ~179lbs weight advantage of the VQ...

I can see this turning into a VH vs VQ discussion, so I'm just gonna stop here.
Modified by simmode1 at 1:51 PM 11/24/2009

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110octane wrote:I can vouch for these mounts. The fab work is impeccable
I knew it had to be you he was talking about! Hey, can you comment on the Extrudabody ITB setup on your VQ35? How did that work out?

We saw those photos from the Sema coverage last year, but never got any info on whether it actually ran or not and your general impressions of the kit. I'm really interested in it, but info is scarce...


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