VP Debate

[srellim234]

As I watched the VP debate last night I grew more and more disappointed as the night wore on. I had been hoping that both candidates were better than that.

I was turned off by Kaine right out of the starting gate. First question was about his qualities, skills and temperment to become President should it become necessary.His answer was almost entirely pro-Clinton/anti-Trump and not a proper answer to what was asked. Pence at least managed to finish his statement with a proper answer.

Kaine's aggressiveness at not allowing Pence to answer anything without interruption was extremely poor. Kaine had facts and truth on his side. He should have allowed Pence to answer and THEN he could have ripped him to shreds. If I want obnoxious, boorish behavior I don't need Kaine. I can watch Donald Trump instead.

For his part Pence was put in the uncomfortable position of defending the indefensible. His background as a radio talk show host and time spent debating in the House of Representatives served him well. Unfortunately, Kaine forced him to respond in kind to the "interruption game."

I was disappointed in the lack of a forceful moderator. The moderator really lost control of the debate and allowed it to deteriorate into the fiasco it turned into. All future debates need the ability to turn on the microphone of the person whose turn it is to speak and the other person's mike should be turned off.

And no, telco, I don't need a huge cut and paste job as to who won or lost. These are my impressions as an independent voter watching the proceedings. My bottom line is that Kaine had more truth and facts but his delivery and style lost the debate.

[Bubba1]

As I watched the VP debate last night I grew more and more disappointed as the night wore on. I had been hoping that both candidates were better than that.

I was turned off by Kaine right out of the starting gate. First question was about his qualities, skills and temperment to become President should it become necessary.His answer was almost entirely pro-Clinton/anti-Trump and not a proper answer to what was asked. Pence at least managed to finish his statement with a proper answer.

Kaine's aggressiveness at not allowing Pence to answer anything without interruption was extremely poor. Kaine had facts and truth on his side. He should have allowed Pence to answer and THEN he could have ripped him to shreds. If I want obnoxious, boorish behavior I don't need Kaine. I can watch Donald Trump instead.

For his part Pence was put in the uncomfortable position of defending the indefensible. His background as a radio talk show host and time spent debating in the House of Representatives served him well. Unfortunately, Kaine forced him to respond in kind to the "interruption game."

I was disappointed in the lack of a forceful moderator. The moderator really lost control of the debate and allowed it to deteriorate into the fiasco it turned into. All future debates need the ability to turn on the microphone of the person whose turn it is to speak and the other person's mike should be turned off.

And no, telco, I don't need a huge cut and paste job as to who won or lost. These are my impressions as an independent voter watching the proceedings. My bottom line is that Kaine had more truth and facts but his delivery and style lost the debate.

I agree ^ I think turning off the microphones when not their turn is a great idea. As they're all acting like children. I think the debates could go one step farther and taser each candidate when they lie. Though I'm afraid their ears would begin to smoke after 5 minutes.

[telcoman]

As I watched the VP debate last night I grew more and more disappointed as the night wore on.

Of course you were.

The only ones who are completely satisfied are the "not for Hillary" mostly uneducated basket of deplorables

I wasn't disappointed and thought it was a pretty good debate.
Too bad Pence couldn't defend Trump.
I don't think anyone can?
How can lies be defended with video and audio tape?

These are my impressions as an independent voter watching the proceedings. My bottom line is that Kaine had more truth and facts but his delivery and style lost the debate.

Kaine didn't lose the debate.

Kaine did what he was supposed to do but had he interrupted Pence fewer times he would have looked better but he got the job done.

Go check out the latest issue of Atlantic Monthly
Only the third time in their over 100 year history are they endorsing a presidential candidate.
Guess who it is?
I won't copy and paste who it is.

You can just guess

Telcoman

[srellim234]

telco - thank you for your assessment. It's nice to be able to actually discuss opinions and not throw everyone else's printed stuff at each other.

We definitely agree on the fact that Pence had no defense. No defense exists.

As I said, my opinion as to who won the debate was just based on my observations as an independent voter. Your perspective and resulting opinion is different than mine and there's nothing wrong with that. Neither one of us is incorrect.

I understand the endorsement game and I'm not surprised at all about Trump not getting the endorsements because I believe (and apparently most major endorsers do, too) that Trump just poses too much of a danger to the United States.

I think these conservative publications coming out for Hillary recognize something else that no one is talking about: the danger posed if one party gets control of all three branches of our government. A Republican majority in Congress will block every liberal thing Clinton wants to accomplish. I think they recognize, too, that she will never get a liberal added to the Supreme Court and will appoint a moderate instead, something America needs desperately. It's all about preserving "checks and balances."

[telcoman]

I think all Americans have to decide what is best for our democracy and vote accordingly in this upcoming election.

President Lincoln had a much more challenging job in his time over the issue of slavery than what we are going thru now.

For those chanting to jail Hillary without charges and advocating violating the constitution is scary.

And you know what else is even more scary is a candidate that wants more nuclear weapons spread around the world and hints that he would use them.

The Donald failed to realize how his words can come back to haunt him

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... 016-214322

BTW I was a huge Stern fan for more than 25 years until politics and Morning Joe overwhelmed me.

Telcoman

[srellim234]

I agree. ^