vlsd help please!

[costa_rican13]

ok so i have a s13 5 speed. and i read somewhere on here that the spline count for the j30 and 240sx are the same in the axles. is this true? because i dont want to get a vlsd and then not be able to use it due to other parts not being available. also i know the older j30 axles(2x3) are interchangable with s13 but what about the 5 bolt design? are those able to fit in the hub/spline thingy? also im wanting to stay 4 LUG, not go to 5 lug. also please no flamin'. i know my info because ive searched but nobody else's answers seem to clear or straight forward enough for my problem..any help is greatly appreciated!

[Hooked on 240]

would do girl in sig...Thats all i have to offer

jk

Are you looking to just get the gears it self in side the pumpkin... or swap over the whole pumpkin and keep s13 axles. ? (which makes no sense bc j30s are 5 bolt and 240s are 6 bolt)

either way just ravage a J30 and take the pumpkin and axles... end of story

[costa_rican13]

that's my wife sir! lol. and well what im thinking of doing is taking the 5 bolt axels and pumpkin from the j30 and swap it over to my s13. thats why i was asking if the spline count is the same, for that purpose.or is my idea not possible? and i would have to swap only the insides?

[costa_rican13]

and also the pre 94's j30 are the same as s13 axles(2x3 bolts) and the 95+ are all 5 bolts. which i can find those easy, just not the pre 94 years.. idk why though.. just how oklahoma sucks..

[jeff420]

gah such misinformation makes me wanna b**** slap someone.....ill be in oklahoma this weekend.....lol jk

ok, i never had to make a thread when i wanted to swap in a j30 vlsd but i guess im special......if you searched, you would know 95+ has the 2x3 bolt pattern and anything before that has the 5 bolt pattern. i promise if you do some research youll find it, i mean if i could find the info while i was at the junkyard just by simply searching on my blackberry, anyone can.

if you need a 2x3 bolt j30 rear that will bolt right up to a s13, lemme know. ill be in lawton oklahoma this weekend delivering some other s13 parts.

[nismobenzo]

im sure you could find what you need if you came to the city..people are getting lsd's everyday seems like ha

[J14cm7]

Just weld it up and get it over with. You will be much happier in the end.

[nismobenzo]

ive been reading alot about the pros and cons..the only reason i wouldnt wana weld my diff is cus the tire wear..but i might do it anyway cus oklahoma is having its first official drift events next month and an open diff will not cut it..and i havnt heard hardly anyones axles breaking if done right so i might get it done soon..read up chum

[costa_rican13]

i stand corrected. you are correct jeff. i "mis"remembered.. lol but thankyou anyways. and the reason i wanted the know the info. would be because i find the older j30 alot more in the junk yards with very low mileages on them like less than 100,xxx miles. i even seen one with 70,xxx miles. but they were all 5 bolts. thats why i wanted to know if the spline count would be the same.. so i could just run those 5 bolt axles. and it would be really cheap like 50 bucks or less for the pumpkin and both axles.

[jeff420]

yes but i found the info on my blackberry at the junkyard on what axles to use........

[J14cm7]

weld it

[jeff420]

weld it

why does everyone say "weld it" be a man and get a real diff.

[J14cm7]

why does everyone say "weld it" be a man and get a real diff.

Yea be a man and spend 900 dollars vs 70 to weld it and have a better result.

[jeff420]

Yea be a man and spend 900 dollars vs 70 to weld it and have a better result.

if all you care about is sliding around every corner and hittin them mad tyte driftz in yo jdm tyte ess arrrr then your far from bein a man. id rather have a real lsd in my car than a welded diff. if 900 is too much then buy a used diff.

[J14cm7]

What are the advantages to real LSD other than its expensive and you think it sounds cool. Understandably if its your daily driver then sure go LSD. But if you take your car to the track whether it be 1/4 or drift there is NO reason to have a LSD unless its a 2 way and then basically its welded and there is no difference.

[costa_rican13]

ok thanks for all the info guys but still my question hasnt been asnwered. will the little axle end of the 5 bolt j30 fit into the s13 spindle? because then that would solve my whole problem without me having to go 5 lug. im not welding afterall its my DD. and im in Hs working at mickey d's. so not alot of money to buy tires all the time. plus ive heard some bad things on here about DD welded diffs breeaking and yea.

[costa_rican13]

that is true. welded is not for DD. only track sir. or well IMO.. and from what ive read in other threads

[J14cm7]

The only reason i say weld it is that i have it in my car and I love it. Its fine on the road and awesome at the track. But if you have a DD i understand. And it if it breaks your only out 150 bucks vs 900. But i have talked to numerous ppl who have had them in thier DD for years and the tire issue is the only prob. sorry we thread jacked and didnt solve your problem haha

[costa_rican13]

reason im asking this is because i need a lsd for this summer. because oklahomas having its first drifting events and i need to know by the summer. plus im trying to pick one for like super cheap or even FREE! i couldve got a lsd from an older j30 but i wouldve had to go 5lug. but no money to buy new rims. so im asking the 5 bolt question. if someone could please help me out on this..

[SILVIAJayS]

It works! Besides the fact that you could search, you've been told in this thread. It works.

[jeff420]

What are the advantages to real LSD other than its expensive and you think it sounds cool. Understandably if its your daily driver then sure go LSD. But if you take your car to the track whether it be 1/4 or drift there is NO reason to have a LSD unless its a 2 way and then basically its welded and there is no difference.

so your saying a welded diff is no different than a real lsd......like i said if all you care about is sliding sideways then welded is ok. do you realize when you turn if both wheels are spinning they will be fighting eachother. i diddnt say get an lsd because its "cool". hey thats kinda like swappin to a kouki front because you think its cool or not using hoodpins for that matter.....

[J14cm7]

so your saying a welded diff is no different than a real lsd......like i said if all you care about is sliding sideways then welded is ok. do you realize when you turn if both wheels are spinning they will be fighting eachother. i diddnt say get an lsd because its "cool". hey thats kinda like swappin to a kouki front because you think its cool or not using hoodpins for that matter.....

ignorant...Its no different than a 2WAY LSD and there is about an 800 dollar price diff. Sorry you didnt realize there are different kinds of LSD. The point is That VLSDs still slip off start and when you drift therefore your tires arent always locked like they should be. And obviosly you have no experience with a welded diff cause the ONLY time you notice it is around 90 degree corners at low speeds. Under normal driving you notice nothing different.

Apparently there is a huge difference between a kouki front end and a silvia front end now.

[costa_rican13]

so the axle end does fit in the spindle? sorry.. but idk if youre being sarcastic or not. and ive already said ive searched. but it seems as no one is doing the 4 lug j30 vlsd with the 5 bolt vlsd end axle. so the axle will fit into the s13 spindle? simple yes or no, would be sufficeint.. dont mean to be a a** guys. just need to know. and wanting to double check before i go spend the whole taking one off of a j30 in the salvage yard.

[jeff420]

im not stupid i know there are different kinds of lsd's. i see mechanical lsd's go for 300 all the time. and btw i dont have a silvia front. reason i had mine was caz i got it cheap and then sold it for a few bills more than i bought it. my friend welded his diff in his mustang so yes i have experience.

ignorant...Its no different than a 2WAY LSD and there is about an 800 dollar price diff. Sorry you didnt realize there are different kinds of LSD. The point is That VLSDs still slip off start and when you drift therefore your tires arent always locked like they should be. And obviosly you have no experience with a welded diff cause the ONLY time you notice it is around 90 degree corners at low speeds. Under normal driving you notice nothing different.

Apparently there is a huge difference between a kouki front end and a silvia front end now.

[J14cm7]

im not stupid i know there are different kinds of lsd's. i see mechanical lsd's go for 300 all the time. and btw i dont have a silvia front. reason i had mine was caz i got it cheap and then sold it for a few bills more than i bought it. my friend welded his diff in his mustang so yes i have experience.

Then WTF are you argueing for. I swear you and dattebayo just argue with people for the sake of argueing whether your wrong or not.

[jeff420]

your the one who wont shut his cockhole because you think welded diff's are the end all be all. he regretted welding his diff, so dont see how your right.

[J14cm7]

your the one who wont shut his cockhole because you think welded diff's are the end all be all. he regretted welding his diff, so dont see how your right.

who are you talking about? and your right i did say that welded diffs are the ideal thing to have in every situation. This thread proves that. either you cant read or your ignorant. If you have a DD i can see why you would regret it who ever it is your talking about.

For me its ideal. i drive the car maybe once a week in the summer on nice days and go to the track with it (1/4 mile and hoping to try some drifting this summer). And i like doing donuts in vacant lots. For these uses you either want a 2 way or a welded diff and a welded diff is 800 dollars cheaper.

If your refering to Dattebayo my arguement with him is that nissan/infiniti names their cars after their displacement and he says thats nonsense. Even you can see that this is true.

P.S. THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY JACKED

[motoman399]

that's my wife sir! lol.

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who are you talking about? and your right i did say that welded diffs are the ideal thing to have in every situation. This thread proves that. either you cant read or your ignorant. If you have a DD i can see why you would regret it who ever it is your talking about.

For me its ideal. i drive the car maybe once a week in the summer on nice days and go to the track with it (1/4 mile and hoping to try some drifting this summer). And i like doing donuts in vacant lots. For these uses you either want a 2 way or a welded diff and a welded diff is 800 dollars cheaper.

If your refering to Dattebayo my arguement with him is that nissan/infiniti names their cars after their displacement and he says thats nonsense. Even you can see that this is true.

P.S. THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY JACKED

hey dude its pointless arguing... remember that thread like a week ago where me and bamnah were going at it. when i started proving points he shut up. much like anyone would do. they are all going to argue when they have never ran one. i can admit that i had a welded diff sitting in my garage for about 4 months before i put it in cause i wasnt sure about it. it was one of the best investments i have put in my car lol.

[J14cm7]

I know i dont know why i bother with these clowns. Hey where is the build thread on the RHD kouki your building?

[costa_rican13]

ok guys we all need to calm down! welded may be better for your style of driving yes. but we're talking about my DD to school and work, and where ever else i feel the need to go. so for me welded diff is not a sufficient choice for the amount of income i make. tires aint cheap ya know so i needed something a little less harsh than 2way/welded lsd. thanks for the input guys. im going to ramsack a j30 in a salvage yard and take both axles and pumpkin and do a direct swap. and hahaha! i think my sig pic is enough