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http://www.gtmotorsports.com/p...age=1

I think this project is going to be sweet when there finished with it specially of reaching their goal of 500hp n/a magine that beast alive ?

& the site really doesn't give that much info o nit but sure is a teaser that get's you thinking... well i did


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I just don't see the pint fo the vk, of the vh for that matter, if I wanted a V8 there are plenty of high hp domestic variants avaialble for less $$ and with tons mroe aftermarket at a fraction fo the cost, I suppose the vk is interesting but once it's been done, it's done

and in stck for the VQ makes 300hp form 3 liters, with nearly twice the displacement the vk makes only 25% more power!?

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I'm with you on this one evildky, I was actually entertaining the thought of sticking a Nissan V8 in my 350z till I did the research on them. Frankly I am just not impressed with the hp numbers that Nissan has coming out of their V8's.

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but look at the torque. nissans V8 isnt used for a sports car, its used, primarily, for a truck. for which, you'd be generally more interested in bigger torque numbers.

im sure theres plenty of aftermarket out there for the v8 to turn it into a hi-HP monster, but unless youve got seriously lofty goals, the 6 is the more refined package. not only that, but more of the aftermarket would be geared more toward what youre doing. (adding race-intent performance vs. haul/tow/mudd'in/ performance)

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It says they plan on a rear engine mount and rear wheel drive. Could that be a misprint? Can't wait to see how they make that one work.

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I'm all for N/A, so I vote on the V8. 500+ hp would be great. Lots of torque. Probably plans on going driftin' :P (jokin').

But, as the others said, I'm betting there are other V8 crate engine choices that would suit the car better, and give it more hp.

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evildky wrote:and in stck for the VQ makes 300hp form 3 liters, with nearly twice the displacement the vk makes only 25% more power!?
There is also the question of torque. And Power availability. The V6 peaks with more power, but the V8 produces much more torque at about the same rate as the V6. There is also tuning. The V8 is tuned for torque and lots of low end power. Alter your heads a little, along with more direct intake and free exhaust, tune the ECM for Midrange/top end parameters, and you could have a smooth, 450hp V8 that still has over 400lbft of torque. 1st gear acceleration would be wicked. I love the idea of a V8.

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yeaa maybe a misprint or transaxle

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I won't argue that there si no replacment for displacement, but in stock tune the 5.6 si a bti lacking, if I wanted a 500 hp Z33 I'd swap in an LS and build it, it would most likley be cheaper than building the VQ or the 5.6 to that level

I've done radical swaps, I've done big fat turbo's, honestly i prefer not to do such a radical swap, but to get 500 form the vq will involve a built bottom end as well as turbo's etc and I and the 5.6 would need extensive tunining and likley some additional engine work to attian 500 hp, the Ls is far cheaper to build and less over engineered, so there are less parts to buy and modify

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I would like to see this car in action. Yes there's always a different path. I remember the Z32 with the VH45DE in it and I appreciated it for what it was.

Yes an LS or the 3.5 or 3.7 more parts would be available, but in an old school sense, it's how hot rods started, swapping Lincoln engines into 30's era Ford coupes, etc.

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I'd like to meet you and the skyline next time I go to Roanoke...

Evildky-I agree with the simplicity involving an LS, but for someone with the few extra resources, and the desire for brand loyalty, wouldn't it still be nice to see something different?

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asI said in my first post, it's interesting, but once it's done it's done

might be a bit of an understatement, I've seen tons of VH swaps and the first was cool, they then became underwhelig, of course hlpign a bud with his showed me how overengineered those motors are and that further deminishes the swap, that being said, there si a thread in classis right now of a guy who did a vh in a Z31 and his swap has to be the best vh swap I've seen

I'm all about brand loyalty, at present I have 3 nissan/datsun Z's, but I rpefer the earlier simpler engines, the L28ET, the VG30ET, mtcookson is presently putting a vg30et into a Z32 which I think is a brilliant swap, granted it's slow goign and he's been at ti for a while and might never get done but it's a cheap dependable available motor capable of lots of hp into the bay where an overengineered lump once sat

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Maybe I misunderstood the quote about it being over engineered and diminishing the swap. If they're built like the VH45 or an Acura J35, (built like a brick s*&t house) I would think it'd be a good candidate for spray or boost.

I'm old and stuff but I love the sound of a V8, nothing else can produce that sound.

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my statement about ebing overengineered I guess stems fomr my racing and wrenching, liek comparing the VG30ET to the VG30DETT, the DE has a little mroe potnetial but it a lot more complicated, repairs, and mods cost twice as much tacke twice as long, you can buy a similarly powered single cam for a fraction of the cost and time needed to build the DE


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