Viper Smartstart!!! THIS IS AMAZING my coupe people!

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as some of you know, i work at a stereo shop and we're getting this product in the next few weeks and i will install it on my A/C as soon as it arrives. this is amazing and I seriously am so excited..of course i get it for free to show customers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_zTIRR3cI


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very cool product but I couldnt stop staring at her chest... Love those sweater muffins!

and she has a ZR1 for a daily?

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those are a nice set of tata's

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nice product. too bad i don't believe in apple, so i don't own an iphone...

i have a T-Mobile MyTouch

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BlackBerry App coming soon? LOL

So this is what Conan was talking about. I'm thinking about getting an Alarm/Starter because she is getting too much (bad) attention.


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fadij wrote:and we're getting this product in the next few weeks
Don't hold your breath!

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lol its already available... so i will hold my breath.
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Autopage has had a similar feature available for over a year now... it can be controlled via cell phone, but it wasn't done through an iphone app...

let's hope Directed Electronics worked the bugs out of this one better than they did their last few remote start alarm systems...

the had to recall an entire line of alarms due to poor shielding and horrible interference...

Haven't been a fan of Directed's products for the last couple of years... their earlier stuff was much more reliable before they started gettign too fancy... sems like the fancier they got, the more problems they started having

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Wait, if it can start your car and unlock it, do we need the I-Key?

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heard a lot of bad reviews on thisproblems with it pairing with the iphone and it would take up to 30 seconds for it to respond to the buttons

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wow sooner or later the iphone will have an app that will drive a car for you. lol

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Only available in the USA...boooooooo...

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fadij wrote:lol its already available... so i will hold my breath.

Modified by fadij at 5:18 PM 10/25/2009
LOL... well if it's already available to you, then why don't you have any? Best Buy has an exclusive on it for 60 days. The original thought was that they were only going to have an exclusive for 30 days.... so all the Viper reps told their dealers 30 days. A couple days later an official report from Viper states: 60 days and that we should have them by Christmas. So like I said, don't hold your breath to have them by November. I have been a Viper dealer for 16 years.... I know how they operate.
rjdmmfl1 wrote:Autopage has had a similar feature available for over a year now... it can be controlled via cell phone, but it wasn't done through an iphone app...

let's hope Directed Electronics worked the bugs out of this one better than they did their last few remote start alarm systems...

the had to recall an entire line of alarms due to poor shielding and horrible interference...

Haven't been a fan of Directed's products for the last couple of years... their earlier stuff was much more reliable before they started gettign too fancy... sems like the fancier they got, the more problems they started having
Actually, Viper had the cell phone thing over 10 years ago. And Audiovox has had it for several years. However, those and the one you are referring to, you had to dial a number, then enter your pass code, then choose a feature etc...... royal pain in the butt. Hopefully this should work nice and smooth. We'll see once some of our customers get them out in the field.

The new models have been fixed now. They are actually the most reliable Viper unit to date now..... or at least at my store. They are also much more installer friendly and take less time to install. We have installed around 600 of them since they came out a couple seasons ago.... and dread it when a customer brings in an older Viper for us to install.
anthonyle2002 wrote:Wait, if it can start your car and unlock it, do we need the I-Key?
The Smart Start is not a remote starter. It has to be added to one of the new generation DEI starters. So yes, you have to have your I-Key to do ignition takeover when entering the vehicle after being remote started.

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Saw it on app store ... it's available only for you americans

now don't go losing your iphone ...

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[QUOTE=Broadfield]

LOL... well if it's already available to you, then why don't you have any? Best Buy has an exclusive on it for 60 days. The original thought was that they were only going to have an exclusive for 30 days.... so all the Viper reps told their dealers 30 days. A couple days later an official report from Viper states: 60 days and that we should have them by Christmas. So like I said, don't hold your breath to have them by November. I have been a Viper dealer for 16 years.... I know how they operate.

well i dont know whos your sales rep out there in Normal IL but out here in LA my rep lets us in sales use it exclusively (not sell as of yet)...and i said in a few weeks because its a little closer to the deadline.....for someone thats doing this for 16 years, you should get better reps.

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The Viper 7900 was garbage, and had to be recalled

The Viper 5701's main problem I saw was poor response with the brain.. I saw at least 5 customers come in (some had alarms installed at this shop, some had them installed at other shops and didn't want to go back) and standing NEXT to their cars, they couldn't get the car to disarm or arm...

I'm not familiar with the latest on the 5901 and 5902, but if you say they work better than i guess I'll take your word for it... but by no means have Viper's recent products been the "most reliable to date"... the 591XV has withstood the test of time, you can't make a claim of being most reliable to date if they have only been out for a couple of months... give em a few years before they get put on that throne

I'm not saying that autopage is perfect either, they've had a number of issues with their C3 system draining batteries, and they are already on the third released version of the RS-1000 remote due to a number of issues

my point, for those reading this that aren't knowledgeable in aftermarket alarms is DO NOT jump on an alarm product as soon as its released... wait a little while, and check the internet for issues with these units before you go out and buy it... the 1st customers as of late have been "extended beta testers"!

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fadij wrote:well i dont know whos your sales rep out there in Normal IL but out here in LA my rep lets us in sales use it exclusively (not sell as of yet)...and i said in a few weeks because its a little closer to the deadline.....for someone thats doing this for 16 years, you should get better reps.
Heck, around here sales reps come and go like herpes.

I was simply saying that a release date is one thing, but them holding true to it is another.... that's all. Then you said they were available, so I assumed you were mistaken or that you worked at Best Buy.
rjdmmfl1 wrote:The Viper 7900 was garbage, and had to be recalled

The Viper 5701's main problem I saw was poor response with the brain.. I saw at least 5 customers come in (some had alarms installed at this shop, some had them installed at other shops and didn't want to go back) and standing NEXT to their cars, they couldn't get the car to disarm or arm...

I'm not familiar with the latest on the 5901 and 5902, but if you say they work better than i guess I'll take your word for it... but by no means have Viper's recent products been the "most reliable to date"... the 591XV has withstood the test of time, you can't make a claim of being most reliable to date if they have only been out for a couple of months... give em a few years before they get put on that throne

I'm not saying that autopage is perfect either, they've had a number of issues with their C3 system draining batteries, and they are already on the third released version of the RS-1000 remote due to a number of issues

my point, for those reading this that aren't knowledgeable in aftermarket alarms is DO NOT jump on an alarm product as soon as its released... wait a little while, and check the internet for issues with these units before you go out and buy it... the 1st customers as of late have been "extended beta testers"!
Yeah, they definitely had the issues with the remote losing pairing on the 5101's. That has been fixed and I haven't really noticed any more issues. The 591XV and 5900 were mostly remote issues. The remote would just die completely. Actually, almost all DEI failures are the remotes in one way or another. It's very rare that there is something wrong with the brain on any system... even before remote starters existed.

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Broadfield wrote:
Heck, around here sales reps come and go like herpes.

I was simply saying that a release date is one thing, but them holding true to it is another.... that's all. Then you said they were available, so I assumed you were mistaken or that you worked at Best Buy.

Yeah, they definitely had the issues with the remote losing pairing on the 5101's. That has been fixed and I haven't really noticed any more issues. The 591XV and 5900 were mostly remote issues. The remote would just die completely. Actually, almost all DEI failures are the remotes in one way or another. It's very rare that there is something wrong with the brain on any system... even before remote starters existed.
well that explains a lot... as I stated earlier... the fancier they got with their remotes, the more problems they began to have... same thing with autopage... the RS-900 and RS-1000 use the same exact brain, just two different remotes... and its the RS-1000 OLED remote that continued to lose pairing with the alarms...

sometimes, simple = better

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available: via Bestbuy (good luck with their installation though)

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This reminds me, I need to get remote start in my car! I may be sending you an email soon Broadfield :D

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So any NICO installed this?

I think I need to get an Alarm/Starter, there marks on my driver side window and the passenger side moulding.

I'm looking for Reviews and if there are any issues with the Intelligent Key/Fob. Thanks.

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waiting for an app that lets me tune my car

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bembol wrote:So any NICO installed this?

I think I need to get an Alarm/Starter, there marks on my driver side window and the passenger side moulding.

I'm looking for Reviews and if there are any issues with the Intelligent Key/Fob. Thanks.
Yes, I have installed probably a dozen of them. Works flawlessly every time. They also just released the 2-way alarm trigger feedback. I don't have any feedback on that portion yet. Let me know if you need any pricing on product. You can check my sig for product.

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Just wanted to bring this thread back to life. I am looking into getting a Smartstart for my car, and some info on it would be great. Broadfield have you ran into any problems with these yet? Is the install very complicated? Does the kit come with everything you need?

Sorry for all the questions but I dont want to have a lot of problems from remote start like a lot of other altimas.

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jf2oo6 wrote:Just wanted to bring this thread back to life. I am looking into getting a Smartstart for my car, and some info on it would be great. Broadfield have you ran into any problems with these yet? Is the install very complicated? Does the kit come with everything you need?

Sorry for all the questions but I dont want to have a lot of problems from remote start like a lot of other altimas.
I replied to your PM.

Thanks,

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so my main thing is...

does this auto start system work fine with our push start cars??? as in does:
1) the car shut off if i press the brake??
2) do i need the key fob
3) does it work fine w/o the iphone app
4) is it a difficult install that can easily go wrong?
5) would it come with a 2-way pager if i dont want the app

some of these questions may have been addressed already but i jus did a quick skim...

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nismogxs21 wrote:so my main thing is...

does this auto start system work fine with our push start cars??? as in does:
1) the car shut off if i press the brake??
2) do i need the key fob
3) does it work fine w/o the iphone app
4) is it a difficult install that can easily go wrong?
5) would it come with a 2-way pager if i dont want the app

some of these questions may have been addressed already but i jus did a quick skim...
1) Yes, the car shuts off if you hit the brake... unless of course you hit the push-to-start button twice.
2) Yes, you need the key fob in order to drive away with the car after remote starting.
3) Yes, you would simply install a standard remote start system of your choice. You can always add the Smart Start module later if you choose. It simply plugs into the remote start brain then needs constant power and ground connected.
4) It's a time consuming install, but as with anything, as long as it's installed correctly there won't be any issues.
5) You would simply buy a remote starter system that has 2-way remotes. The standard Smart Start module is simply an add-on unit.... it has nothing to do with the remote starter. However, the new VSS3000 is a remote start/Smart Start combo that doesn't come with remotes at all. You would only use your phone.

There is a lot of confusion on this type of stuff. So please ask as many questions as you want. I have installed several thousand remote starters.

Toby


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