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RobPaulson
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EDIT: http://www.lightwurkz.com will do this to your headlights for $450 and will need your lights for 2 weeks. This look is impossible to accomplish with vinyls since they painted the inside housing a matte black. I am just going to settle on vinyls for the time being =(

so . . . i am still obsessing a bit about wanting headlights that look like this (see image below, formatting nicer this way =P )

I know this guy lightwerkz did it, but I have absolutely no interest in having him do this. sounded way too expensive and came off like kind of a jerk from what i read =/ anyway...

Problems with current Vinyl headlight overlays:

1. THE COLOR! I tried 3/10 smoke overlays, but they came out with an almost brown tint to them, maybe its the orange from the light itself thats making it seem off-color to me, but it does NOT look like it is just straight tinted black. Could this have been caused by a dirty install environment (I had them installed by the guy who did my tints, even when i first saw them they looked sloppy =/ )??

2. Cloudy. The vinyl made the plastic of the headlamp look somewhat cloudy, so you can see the beam from my HID's hit the plastic cover of the headlamp. Which looks like CRAP IMO. I want my crystal clear headlights back =( Once again, could this just be a dirty install environment? Or is this just how the vinyls look when they're done?

So what I am getting at here is, - Do others with FULL HEADLAMP OVERLAYS experience a 'cloudy' effect?- Do others with FULL HEADLAMP SMOKE OVERLAYS look like a BLACK tint, or off-black (like off-white . . . but not really) color? Or did i just get a crappy install?



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Not a crappy install. After I did a 6/10 overlay on mine, the vinyl did look more of a dark brown. I think its just the vinyl that is doing that. I believe someone on here just taped the light off to simulate the GTR overlay and painted the lights with spray tint. I did that on last vehicle and I can tell you from experience, its dark but lets the lights through

Bad thing is, you'll have to sand off the paint and buff down the light if you don't like it.

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i believe it was Rob.Vegan that painted his headlights...im pretty sure it was him

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sc_coupe wrote:i believe it was Rob.Vegan that painted his headlights...im pretty sure it was him
alot of people did this but i am not really willing to commit to ANYTHING that I cant see a real world finished product of anymore, way too many disappointments =( (I dont think anyone on these forums has painted their ENTIRE headlamp with a 'smoke' layer)

it is also very important that they let enough light through to be useful and safe at night. i noticed a BIG difference in visibility after installing my 3/10's . . . I am this >< close to just ripping my current vinyls off . . .

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in additon to Lightwerkz not seeming like the nicest guy.....he doesnt even guarantee that the 4th gen Altima lights are waterproof. i emailed him with a few questions, and he mentioned that because of the sealant that Nissan uses, he cant guarantee that the lights wont leak. so him being $$$$ and the fact that he basically said, the lights will probably leak....i would suggest against his services.

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I think it was lightwurkz who did the headlight..not lightwerkz..

Here is their website:http://www.lightwurkz.com/

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Nicky Altima wrote:I think it was lightwurkz who did the headlight..not lightwerkz..

Here is their website:http://www.lightwurkz.com/
it was

http://www.lightwurkz.com/new/...r=asc

i never noticed that .....

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I love mine. They were only cloudy for the first day until they set in. I recently put in the HID kit and the 3rd picture may appear cloudy but it is just that my car was dirty and since it snowed here I haven't been able to take any other pics. The film is called Lamin-X film. They make it in clear, smoke, and black. I got the smoke color on my car. It also protects the headlight from chips and scratches.

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RobPaulson wrote:so . . . i am still obsessing a bit about wanting headlights that look like this (see image below, formatting nicer this way =P )

I know this guy lightwerkz did it, but I have absolutely no interest in having him do this. sounded way too expensive and came off like kind of a jerk from what i read =/ anyway...

Problems with current Vinyl headlight overlays:

1. THE COLOR! I tried 3/10 smoke overlays, but they came out with an almost brown tint to them, maybe its the orange from the light itself thats making it seem off-color to me, but it does NOT look like it is just straight tinted black. Could this have been caused by a dirty install environment (I had them installed by the guy who did my tints, even when i first saw them they looked sloppy =/ )??

2. Cloudy. The vinyl made the plastic of the headlamp look somewhat cloudy, so you can see the beam from my HID's hit the plastic cover of the headlamp. Which looks like CRAP IMO. I want my crystal clear headlights back =( Once again, could this just be a dirty install environment? Or is this just how the vinyls look when they're done?

So what I am getting at here is, - Do others with FULL HEADLAMP OVERLAYS experience a 'cloudy' effect?- Do others with FULL HEADLAMP SMOKE OVERLAYS look like a BLACK tint, or off-black (like off-white . . . but not really) color? Or did i just get a crappy install?
Well, if you say the install was sloppy to begin with, maybe there was some moisture still underneath the vinyl. Gotta make sure all the moisture is taken out from underneath. Also, the appearance may differ from car to car depending on the housing finish and the amber portion of the headlight, which is huge on the coupe! That also may be causing the variation iin the tint. Maybe try my GTR Headlight Overlay which leaves the area of your main lamps open so no light is affected by the overlay, just a thought bud .

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sc_coupe wrote:i believe it was Rob.Vegan that painted his headlights...im pretty sure it was him
I sure did, and my heads and tails came out better than I ever would have imagined However even the spray leaves a sort of brownish color when the running light is on. Other than that it is not visible at all.

My lights look black (they match the superblack really well) and yet still transparent which is good for those pesky porkers (no offense just sounded nice)




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Blue Batmobile wrote:
Well, if you say the install was sloppy to begin with, maybe there was some moisture still underneath the vinyl. Gotta make sure all the moisture is taken out from underneath. Also, the appearance may differ from car to car depending on the housing finish and the amber portion of the headlight, which is huge on the coupe! That also may be causing the variation iin the tint. Maybe try my GTR Headlight Overlay which leaves the area of your main lamps open so no light is affected by the overlay, just a thought bud .

Bat
The problem is I HATE the line it makes on the headlight (no offense to others this i just my opinion). It looks so unnatural to me (even though it follows the lines of the inner headlight), the fact that if you look at it from a certain angle that the overlay can look 'off' depending on what angle you look at it is a complete deal breaker for me.

This being said, would that line be AS noticeable with a full 3/10 smoke over the top of it?

It looks like that white coupe has even thicker paint/tint over the amber area of the light, maybe 'blacking' it out more making the entire thing seem darker in general without blacking out your visible light as much.

So all things above considered . . . I wonder how a GTR 3/10 with a full 3/10 smoke vinyl over the top of it would look?? I wonder if the addition of the full vinyl over it would sort of 'lessen' the line made by the GTR, along with seriously darkening the amber area??

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i believe it would be the full coverage, with the GTR on top of it.

You get brown shades from a amber light being muted... change the damn bulb to a hyperwhite and i think you will see a significant difference!

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or remove the bulbs, the way I did

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LongBeachCoupe wrote:i believe it would be the full coverage, with the GTR on top of it.

You get brown shades from a amber light being muted... change the damn bulb to a hyperwhite and i think you will see a significant difference!
BRILLIANT! LOL

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Heels1010 wrote:I love mine. They were only cloudy for the first day until they set in. I recently put in the HID kit and the 3rd picture may appear cloudy but it is just that my car was dirty and since it snowed here I haven't been able to take any other pics. The film is called Lamin-X film. They make it in clear, smoke, and black. I got the smoke color on my car. It also protects the headlight from chips and scratches.
Looks good..was it easy to install? Did you do it by yourself?

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I had it done at a shop called Underground in Bohemia Long island. He did my tints on the car, smoked headlights and smoked reverse lights for me. I recommend his shop to everyone.

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How is their pricing? Might be worth a trip out there if the price is right.

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I paid $100 for the front and back smoked lights. $140 for the tinted windows which come with a lifetime warranty.

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RobPaulson wrote:
WOAH........... this is the same coupe from my friends shop here in houston, texas. they worked on this coupe at turbochargers.com and i saw in in person on the rack. they selling the custom side skirts to me!

i say tint the top half, i think i might.

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I have tyhe full coverage over the gtr overlays, its clean ill post soon

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FGFCacoupe wrote:I have tyhe full coverage over the gtr overlays, its clean ill post soon
oh oh oh awesome! be sure to include the darkness of the vinyl you used please (3/10, 6/10)

Thanks dude I look forward to your post!

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FGFCacoupe wrote:I have tyhe full coverage over the gtr overlays, its clean ill post soon
bump, FGF you still think you could post up those pics man? i'm real eager to see your setup

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6/10 Gtr style headlights only

Full LBC 3/10 overlay, over top of 6/10 Gtr style overlay

Its a clean set up if anyone wants it

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LBC 6/10 GTR style taillights in my signature for anyone who is interested. Clean set up as well

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so . . . lightwurkz.com got back to me on this:

Quote »This project is very time consuming and we will need 2 weeks to complete this. it was all painted from inside. we did flat black housings and we smoked the amber reflectors a bit to give this car original oem look but slightly more aggressive.

the cost for labor is $450 and all you need to do is pack them in the box and ship them, we will take care of the rest

http://www.lightwurkz,com [/quote]ya i def dont have the funds to blow on something like this unfortunately . . .


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