Vice Presidential debate 2012 - Discussion thread

[300ZXttZMAN]

Who's going to be watching?

I'll be watching. I'm willing to bet that this debate will almost decide the election if Ryan does as good as Romney did in the previous debate, for the simple fact that Obama screwed up the first debate so bad, so much to the point that it moved most of the polls even the Liberal based polls in Romneys favor.

So yea I think if this debate flows like the last one then its possible most of the "undecided voters" will realize that the Democrats don't know WTF is going on.

[stebo0728]

Ill be watching, Ill chime in at some point.

[stebo0728]

I think I'm gonna watch "Earnest Saves the Election" instead.....Know whad'I mean Vern?!?

[300ZXttZMAN]

Whats that?

[themadscientist]

I don't think Biden can keep up with Ryan. I would be curious what dumb thing he says that Obama will have to "clarify." That show never fails to entertain.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Yea I agree always interesting.

[bigbadberry3]

This undercard is awesome!

20minutes in, Biden, hands down especially after 300 million cut for embassy security.

[300ZXttZMAN]

The story about the Nixon family Ryan just talked about was awesome.

Biden is a jackass. He is laughing like he is on a damn game show its pretty annoying and cocky not to mention immature and it shows how unprepared he is.

[bigbadberry3]

The story about the Nixon family Ryan just talked about was awesome.

Biden is a jackass. He is laughing like he is on a damn game show. Its annoying and it shows is cocky personallity..

All I see is body blows from Biden, nailed him down on the Wisconsin stimulus money letter.

Ryan reminds me of Scarecrow from the new Batman movie and smug.

[bigbadberry3]

The story about the Nixon family Ryan just talked about was awesome.

Really? Give me 120,000 dollars and I'll tell you how much I appreciate your time and not your money.

[300ZXttZMAN]

The story about the Nixon family Ryan just talked about was awesome.

Biden is a jackass. He is laughing like he is on a damn game show. Its annoying and it shows is cocky personallity..

All I see is body blows from Biden, nailed him down on the Wisconsin stimulus money letter.

Ryan reminds me of Scarecrow from the new Batman movie and smug.

I admit he did hit him with the stimulus money letter stuff. But think about it, if the feds were doing it wouldn't you want your state to get some of the money if you were in congress? Its not like they wanted them to go through with the stimulus bill but hell if its going though you have to get some money back in your state its only fair because it was everyones taxes...

[bigbadberry3]

I admit he did hit him with the stimulus money letter stuff. But think about it, if the feds were doing it wouldn't you want your state to get some of the money if you were in congress? Its not like they wanted them to go through with the stimulus bill but hell if its going though you have to get some money back in your state its only fair because it was everyones taxes...

I see where you're coming from but if you are going to stick with the stimulus wasted money/ taxed us/ didn't need it anyways platform, going the extra mile to go and ask for more money .....

Don't want it for moral superiority? Return it.

[themadscientist]

Biden in regular form, assinine. Botox delivers. Ryans a slippery scumbag, but as I expected, he is a deadly adversary; focused like a laser.

[stebo0728]

It was no zinger, but Im glad Ryan finally publicly stated that there's just not enough rich people to pay for our runaway spending!

[stebo0728]

Joe can only wiggle on the timeline issue. I've said from the start it was a mistake.

[bigbadberry3]

Joe can only wiggle on the timeline issue. I've said from the start it was a mistake.

Totally a mistake. But at least he is saying we're out. I'm reading Ryan as we may be out around 2014.

[themadscientist]

He did catch Ryan on the timeline.

[bigbadberry3]

I feel this is another good debate?

EDIT: Until this Catholic question.

[themadscientist]

You too huh? I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[bigbadberry3]

At this point, I'm saying Ryan did a fair job but Joe came from the underdog to take this one.

[bigbadberry3]

Quickly panned through the news channels, all but one are talking about isues/ fact checking/ independent votes except for one.

And they are only talking about Joe's grin. Care to guess who that would be?

[stebo0728]

Neither had a passing game this time, too much handing the ball off. If I had to tip it one way or the other, I'd tip it to Biden. This one will be forgotten by noon tomorrow I think.

[WDRacing]

I'm a biased mofo, I don't hide try to hide it, but if the Romney/Ryan ticket was a new car I was looking to purchase, after the debate the car now looks like it was driven through mud and it now has a s*** carfax to boot.

Biden was an interrupting jack a**, I expected as much and I'm sure it was part of the plan to keep Ryan off his game. He came away looking obnoxious and rude, but he had Ryan repeating himself. It was like listening to a talking point being repeated over and over...yeah I heard ya the first time ***hole, say something different or stfu.

Biden owned Ryan on Afghanistan. No body wants to be over there anymore, political vacuum be damned, people are tired of being at war. I'm pro-defense in a big way and I'm all for getting the F out of there tomorrow. Ryan refused to say that we're bailing in 2014. That rubs me the wrong way...like underwear full of sand.

Both idiots fail at taxes. One wants to take more money so they can have a higher tab for the bar and the other came off sounding as trust worthy as a loan shark.

I came away wondering why I didn't just read my book and go to bed. I didn't learn anything new, I didn't hear any sincerity and there wasn't any sort of feel good moment.

My synopses, totally irrelevant debate. If anything it hurt the Romney/Ryan ticket, but over all I wouldn't call anyone a winner. Definitely not worth any space on my DVR.

[Marenta]

My take:

Biden was the bulldog that the Dems needed. They needed the fact-checking on the spot.

Ryan was much more poised and actually held his own against somebody who has more information, especially about foreign policy.

For style points and keeping calm, Ryan has that arena. For substance and depth of information (even though it was delivered condescendingly) goes to Biden.

I'd say: tie.

[stebo0728]

I'm a biased mofo, I don't hide try to hide it, but if the Romney/Ryan ticket was a new car I was looking to purchase, after the debate the car now looks like it was driven through mud and it now has a s*** carfax to boot.

Biden was an interrupting jack a**, I expected as much and I'm sure it was part of the plan to keep Ryan off his game. He came away looking obnoxious and rude, but he had Ryan repeating himself. It was like listening to a talking point being repeated over and over...yeah I heard ya the first time ***hole, say something different or stfu.

Biden owned Ryan on Afghanistan. No body wants to be over there anymore, political vacuum be damned, people are tired of being at war. I'm pro-defense in a big way and I'm all for getting the F out of there tomorrow. Ryan refused to say that we're bailing in 2014. That rubs me the wrong way...like underwear full of sand.

Both idiots fail at taxes. One wants to take more money so they can have a higher tab for the bar and the other came off sounding as trust worthy as a loan shark.

I came away wondering why I didn't just read my book and go to bed. I didn't learn anything new, I didn't hear any sincerity and there wasn't any sort of feel good moment.

My synopses, totally irrelevant debate. If anything it hurt the Romney/Ryan ticket, but over all I wouldn't call anyone a winner. Definitely not worth any space on my DVR.

So it was par for a VP debate then?

[stebo0728]

Ill reiterate, the only thing positive I saw come out of this is that someone FINALLY, PUBLICLY called class warfare "tax the rich" argument on its bullsh*t. When Ryan clearly stated that point, I think my neighbors heard me cheer. Too bad that point probably won't be remembered, if anyone even remembers it now.

[Marenta]

One thing that did irk me was that Ryan couldn't answer questions and had to be called out a few times to provide answers.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

Ryan fumbled, Biden scored a touchdown. In a AA game.

[Bubba1]

I think the moderation sucked....again. Doesn't anyone know how to run a proper debate? Both candidates kept interrupting each other, and the timing was all over the place. I think Biden landed a few more punches than Ryan, but Ryan appeared more calm. I think who won depends on which side you support.

[telcoman]

One thing that did irk me was that Ryan couldn't answer questions and had to be called out a few times to provide answers.

Neither can Romney answer direct questions which is why they are going to lose.

How do you reduce the budget deficit without raising taxes and explaining in detail exactly what programs you intend to cut.

Ryan when asked about math and arithmetic said he didn't have the time to explain.

Do they think the American people are stupid when they cannot answer.

Telcoman